BF2S Forums Murder, Manslaughter or Legitimate Kill?

Manslaughter.  He could have felt that the travelers were a continuing threat to his safety so there is some justification, but shooting him in the back shows that there was no immediate threat.  If there was a mob forming outside his house, he may be dead as well, but it would show an immanent threat, but as the immediate confrontation was over, it was poor judgment on his part and it would be manslaughter.  IMO.

A mercy Killing of a stupid turd.

Ward proved to have disregard for the law and was a threat to the farmer.  Ward could have showed back up later with a gun or some friends.  Ward put the farmer in a situation of UnNatural stress and therefore the farmer should not be held responsible for acting as a trained professional would have in that situation.

The moral of the story is:  Fuck with the wrong person and you die, so respect other peoples life, health, and property..... Duh. 

Why is this such a complicated idea for liberals, do you actually think that farmer is a threat to society?  He lived all those years without killing anyone, and it is just coincedence that it was a criminal that attacked him on his property that he killed.  Like it could have been you me or anyone.  shhhhheeeeetttttttttt.

Question: Who would you rather leave alone in your house for a weekend with your kids, Ward or the Farmer?

I pick the Farmer, I know that Ward would steal my shit and might harm my kids.  I have no reason to think the farmer would.

Last edited by Major_Spittle (2007-02-10 09:11:15)

Recoil555 wrote:

Murder he walked away there where other options opened up as soon as the other man started to walk away the police could have got there in between and protected him if they tried to come back after all thats what their here for. If i was presiding over his fate in trial manslaughter is what i would give him.

You sir empower the criminals of the world and side with evil.  Justice is Justice no matter who serves it up.

=MCHD= arush5268d wrote:

Shooting someone in the back, while they are leaving your area, is hardly self defense.

The Ward's are probably the biggest traveler family around. (that I know of) They believe in the old ways of revenge and mob justice. I shared a court room with some Wards and they attend a Fair, The Oul Lamas Fair, held in my home town every year. They camp in the same place every year and the local police have learned to stay away from them. They have a law to their own. I watched 4 of them beat the shit out of 8 DSMU (Hard ass cops in body Armour). One of the Wards wrapped his legs around a cop and started head butting him, even though he was wearing a riot helmet and face guard, he kept going until the face guard shattered and the helmet fell off, then he turned his head into pulp. It only stopped when the leader of their particular tribe stopped it. He took a gun of one of them and then told the police men who were scattered around that they were to stay out of the area they were camped in and they have since.

If a Ward, any ward came on my property I would presume they are there to, rob, assault or rape my family. I am a total pacifist, but I would not risk just hurting one of them as the revenge heaped upon us would be unthinkable and I wouldn't allow even the slightest chance of that happening. I would have to kill him. Think you need to understand their mentality before you judge the old guy.

Now why can't jury service be like this? i.e. his 'peers' get to e-vote on what the sentence should be...

I'm a little confused by the circumstances, but if he shot someone in the process of stealing his shit, then I'd let him off.

Nally is guilty of murder.

As indicated in several posts, Nally may have had a good reason to believe that Ward would return and attempt revenge. However, Ward did not present an immediate threat any more.

In my book, removing a potential threat by lethal means is an act of premeditated murder.

Last edited by apollo_fi (2007-02-11 05:28:52)