Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6875|132 and Bush

"These oppressive countries are angry with us ... a nation that on the other side of the globe has risen up and proved the shallowness of their power," Ahmadinejad said in a speech in the northern town of Ramsar, the semi-official news agency Mehr reported Wednesday.

"They are angry with our nation. But we tell them 'so be it and die from this anger'. Rest assured that if you do not respond to the divine call, you will die soon and vanish from the face of the earth," he said.

The outspoken president also maintained Iran's defiance over its controversial nuclear programme, saying it was on course to fully master nuclear technology.

"Thank to God's help, we have gone all the way and are only one step away from the zenith.

"We hope to have the big nuclear celebration by the end of the year (March 2007)," Ahmadinejad said, echoing comments he has made on numerous occasions in recent months.
http://www.breitbart.com/
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kr@cker
Bringin' Sexy Back!
+581|6823|Southeastern USA
the iranian parliament or whatever it's called decided to move the elections and have them a year and a half earlier than planned

and that was before he was caught eyeballing those lewd women in defiance of islamic law at the asian games
{BMF}*Frank_The_Tank
U.S. > Iran
+497|6852|Florida
Fuck Iran

I say if they really want to be as tough as they say, instigate a fight with us.


Bring it bitch.
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|6895|London, England

{BMF}*Frank_The_Tank wrote:

Fuck Iran

I say if they really want to be as tough as they say, instigate a fight with us.


Bring it bitch.
lol, easier said than done. I wouldn't be surprised if you're not in the armed forces. But if you are then my bad, go kick some ass.
Stingray24
Proud member of the vast right-wing conspiracy
+1,060|6719|The Land of Scott Walker

Kmarion wrote:

"These oppressive countries are angry with us ... a nation that on the other side of the globe has risen up and proved the shallowness of their power," Ahmadinejad said in a speech in the northern town of Ramsar, the semi-official news agency Mehr reported Wednesday.

"They are angry with our nation. But we tell them 'so be it and die from this anger'. Rest assured that if you do not respond to the divine call, you will die soon and vanish from the face of the earth," he said.

The outspoken president also maintained Iran's defiance over its controversial nuclear programme, saying it was on course to fully master nuclear technology.

"Thank to God's help, we have gone all the way and are only one step away from the zenith.

"We hope to have the big nuclear celebration by the end of the year (March 2007)," Ahmadinejad said, echoing comments he has made on numerous occasions in recent months.
http://www.breitbart.com/
Well, he just threatened a nation on the "other side of the earth" with "respond to the divine call or vanish from the earth."  Still think it's foundless speculation CPoe?

from previous thread stating Iran is a threat:

CameronPoe wrote:

What a complete load of unfounded hogwash. Blatant scaremongering. Remember the lesson learned from the debacle in Iraq people - a war based on unfounded fearmongering.  He states foundationless speculation as if it was fact: "The fanatics running Iran are developing nuclear weapons, not as a means to extort money from the West a la north Korea but with the express purpose of firing them." How the fuck would he know with such certainty that Iran had 'the express purpose of firing them (if developing them at all). They probably are developing them I concede but I believe that if they are then they're doing it to provide a means of SELF DEFENSE - a defense against their nuclear arch-rivals Israel and the ever-threatening USA.

"Ahmadinejad fully intends to use nukes on Europe and, ultimately, the U.S."
That sentence has just been pulled directly out of his anus. Why on earth would Iran nuke Europe? It doesn't make any sense on any level whatsoever.  . . .
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6803|Global Command
War often times doesn't. It makes less sense to nuke israel, or even suggest such a thing, beings as they are geographically close, and the fallout could be an issue.
     War with Iran will not likely involve ground troops like we did in Iraq. They'll bluster enough, and the U.S. and Israel will conduct massive airstrikes.
     The world will continue hating us and Israel, continue to spiral into chaos and the poor will continue to be poor. Eventually, someone will actually denonate a nuclear device in Israel, and a global calamity will ensue.

     Eventually, a new world order will arrise and national individuality will be replaced with one flag free from any traces of interference from religion.
     Woe to thee.
Stingray24
Proud member of the vast right-wing conspiracy
+1,060|6719|The Land of Scott Walker
A new world order will arise, but as a result of a peace treaty promising not to harm Israel, not because of Israel's elimination.  After the treaty, national individuality will be replaced by the new world order and a universal currency required to trade goods.  Everyone will enjoy peace for a short period of time until the treaty is broken.  Then global calamity will ensue, but Israel will still exist afterward.  Feel free to reference this post and the book of Revelation when it happens.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6679|North Carolina
As I've said before, Ahmadinejad is just talking shit.  He wouldn't be saying these things if we no longer had Iraq tying us down.

My advice is to take everything he says with a grain of salt (or perhaps a bucket of it).  Otherwise, it's about as silly as taking Kim Jong Il's words as serious.
kr@cker
Bringin' Sexy Back!
+581|6823|Southeastern USA
he wasn't breast fed
usmarine2007
Banned
+374|6641|Columbus, Ohio
I like him.  He looks like the guy who works at the gas station down the road from my house.
EVieira
Member
+105|6752|Lutenblaag, Molvania

ATG wrote:

War often times doesn't. It makes less sense to nuke israel, or even suggest such a thing, beings as they are geographically close, and the fallout could be an issue.
     War with Iran will not likely involve ground troops like we did in Iraq. They'll bluster enough, and the U.S. and Israel will conduct massive airstrikes.
     The world will continue hating us and Israel, continue to spiral into chaos and the poor will continue to be poor. Eventually, someone will actually denonate a nuclear device in Israel, and a global calamity will ensue.

     Eventually, a new world order will arrise and national individuality will be replaced with one flag free from any traces of interference from religion.
     Woe to thee.
Dang Grape, you sound like some sort of prophet. You're begining to scare me...

   But your are probably correct, massive airstrikes and cruise missles everywhere would probably be what the war would be like. But if we expect that, you bet Iran expects that too. And if Iran decides to take the initiative, which could happen if war is to ensue, they would propably make a fast advancement  to secure defensible positions before the airstrikes could reach their peak. Iran is much more catious tharn Iraq, they aren't going to bluff like Saddam.
"All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered;  the point is to discover them."
Galileo Galilei  (1564-1642)
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6875|132 and Bush

Ahmadinejad, ha ha thats one silly bitch.

What makes me sick is statements like "we just don't understand their way of life". Or that we should go out of our way to "try to understand them". It's give give. Are you telling me Iran has no idea how these statements are going to be interpreted by westerners? Is this the way a peaceful minded person speaks? If there is one lesson the Jews should have learned from the holocaust its when someone tells you they are going to kill you, believe them. Of course Ahmadinejad denies the holocaust ever took place.

There has to be a balance. I'm not here to say, "Oh shit we are all going to die.". I understand scare tactics are used to promote government agendas, but when threats are thrown in your direction nearly everyday it would be naive to not listen. Awareness doesn't mean living in fear. Don't counter his statements by saying.. awww he was just kidding. It's just not the way an intelligent mind works.

Last edited by Kmarion (2006-12-06 19:18:30)

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Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6679|North Carolina

Kmarion wrote:

Ahmadinejad, ha ha thats one silly bitch.

What makes me sick is statements like "we just don't understand their way of life". Or that we should go out of our way to "try to understand them". It's give give. Are you telling me Iran has no idea how these statements are going to be interpreted by westerners? Is this the way a peaceful minded person speaks? If there is one lesson the Jews should have learned from the holocaust its when someone tells you they are going to kill you, believe them. Of course Ahmadinejad denies the holocaust ever took place.

There has to be a balance. I'm not here to say, "Oh shit we are all going to die.". I understand scare tactics are used to promote government agendas, but when threats are thrown in your direction nearly everyday it would be naive to not listen. Awareness doesn't mean living in fear. Don't counter his statements by saying.. awww he was just kidding. It's just not the way an intelligent mind works.
Perhaps, I wasn't being clear in my previous post.  I think Ahmadinejad is an asshole who we need to keep an eye on, but that doesn't mean we should remove him either.

Despite the disgusting things he often says, we can't just eliminate him.  He may be advancing his country's nuclear technology, but honestly, I really don't think he's crazy enough to attack us or our allies with nukes.

Pakistan is a different matter though.
CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|6829

Stingray24 wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

"These oppressive countries are angry with us ... a nation that on the other side of the globe has risen up and proved the shallowness of their power," Ahmadinejad said in a speech in the northern town of Ramsar, the semi-official news agency Mehr reported Wednesday.

"They are angry with our nation. But we tell them 'so be it and die from this anger'. Rest assured that if you do not respond to the divine call, you will die soon and vanish from the face of the earth," he said.

The outspoken president also maintained Iran's defiance over its controversial nuclear programme, saying it was on course to fully master nuclear technology.

"Thank to God's help, we have gone all the way and are only one step away from the zenith.

"We hope to have the big nuclear celebration by the end of the year (March 2007)," Ahmadinejad said, echoing comments he has made on numerous occasions in recent months.
http://www.breitbart.com/
Well, he just threatened a nation on the "other side of the earth" with "respond to the divine call or vanish from the earth."  Still think it's foundless speculation CPoe?

from previous thread stating Iran is a threat:

CameronPoe wrote:

What a complete load of unfounded hogwash. Blatant scaremongering. Remember the lesson learned from the debacle in Iraq people - a war based on unfounded fearmongering.  He states foundationless speculation as if it was fact: "The fanatics running Iran are developing nuclear weapons, not as a means to extort money from the West a la north Korea but with the express purpose of firing them." How the fuck would he know with such certainty that Iran had 'the express purpose of firing them (if developing them at all). They probably are developing them I concede but I believe that if they are then they're doing it to provide a means of SELF DEFENSE - a defense against their nuclear arch-rivals Israel and the ever-threatening USA.

"Ahmadinejad fully intends to use nukes on Europe and, ultimately, the U.S."
That sentence has just been pulled directly out of his anus. Why on earth would Iran nuke Europe? It doesn't make any sense on any level whatsoever.  . . .
If you read my post carefully you'll notice that I included USA in those he threatened. Europe: hogwash.
JahManRed
wank
+646|6902|IRELAND

'so be it and die from this anger''
"Rest assured that if you do not respond to the divine call, you will die soon and vanish from the face of the earth,"

I had some fundamentalist Christian nutter telling me I was going to die and "rot in the fires of hell for eternity' because I wouldn't listen to his drivel while out shopping last week. Religious fundamentalists have been ranting threats about converting to their particular form of mind numbing control for thousands of years.
Just because the leader of Iran is spouting it, it doesn't warrant anything other than the usual response. Ignore them and they will shut up.

Last edited by JahManRed (2006-12-07 03:48:47)

pj666
Member
+16|6640|Sydney, Australia
Iran's nuclear program is deliberately spread out to minimise the effect of strategic air and missle strikes. Hit them and you won't destory the proram, and you have another reason for the Muslim world to hate the US (and the West).
Invading Iran doesn't make sense. Not with so many troops tied down in Iraq, and L'il Kimmy mouthing off in North Korea. Both Iran and North Korea are feeling their oats because the US looks weak tied down in Iraq.
If that idiot nukes the US or Europe, goodbye Iran. The last time the US and Europe had a real war, it took 10 years to rebuild Europe and Asia. They just haven't taken the gloves off for 60 years, don't forget that.
If he nukes Israel, sheesh. The Israelis don't muck around. I wouldn't want to be a neighbour of Iran.
The worry is if Iran develops the bomb and then feeds the technology to terrorists. It's called plausible deniability. It's harder to nuke Teheran when they are doing their best Bart "It wasn't me" act.
This is what happens when you let the kids play in the gun cabinet ...
jsnipy
...
+3,277|6796|...

Stingray24 wrote:

A new world order will arise, but as a result of a peace treaty promising not to harm Israel, not because of Israel's elimination.  After the treaty, national individuality will be replaced by the new world order and a universal currency required to trade goods.  Everyone will enjoy peace for a short period of time until the treaty is broken.  Then global calamity will ensue, but Israel will still exist afterward.  Feel free to reference this post and the book of Revelation when it happens.
You know I don't know why more people point this out. I think it all points to nuclear mules patiently waiting in major cities ...

Revelations 18:10 wrote:

Pay her back even as she has paid, give back to her double
according to her deeds; in the cup which she has mixed, mix
twice as much for her. To the degree that she glorified herself
and lived sensuously, to the same degree give her torment and
mourning; for she says in her heart, 'I sit as a queen and I am
not a widow, and will never see mourning.' For this reason
IN ONE DAY her plagues will come, pestilence and mourning
and famine, and she will be burned up with fire; for the
Lord God who judges her is strong. And the kings of the earth,
who committed acts of immorality and lived sensuously with her,
will weep and lament over her when they see the smoke of her
burning, standing at a distance because of the fear of her
torment, saying,
'Woe, woe, the great city, Babylon, the strong city!
For IN ONE HOUR your judgment has come.'
And don't say it "Babylon" is not literal referring to Iraq, in previous versus it talks about Babylon being rebuilt in another place.

Last edited by jsnipy (2006-12-07 03:16:13)

Stingray24
Proud member of the vast right-wing conspiracy
+1,060|6719|The Land of Scott Walker

JahManRed wrote:

'so be it and die from this anger''
"Rest assured that if you do not respond to the divine call, you will die soon and vanish from the face of the earth,"

I had some fundamentalist Christian nutter telling me I was going to die and "rot in the fires of hell for eternity' because I wouldn't listen to his drivel while out shopping last week. Religious fundamentalists have been ranting threats about converting to their particular form of mind numbing control for thousands of years.
Just because the leader of Iran is spouting it, it doesn't warrant anything other than the usual response. Ignore them and they will shut up.
As a Christian I will apologize for the "nutter" you spoke to.  He should have been more sensitive in his terminology.  However, that does not diminish the reality of the existence of hell.  The big difference between Christianity and Islam is this - we do not make people vanish from the earth because they believe differently.  Radical Islam does.  They murder those who refuse to convert in order to further their religion.  We simply tell people what we believe rather than threatening to kill them.  A very large contrast in my opinion.
JahManRed
wank
+646|6902|IRELAND

Stingray24 wrote:

JahManRed wrote:

'so be it and die from this anger''
"Rest assured that if you do not respond to the divine call, you will die soon and vanish from the face of the earth,"

I had some fundamentalist Christian nutter telling me I was going to die and "rot in the fires of hell for eternity' because I wouldn't listen to his drivel while out shopping last week. Religious fundamentalists have been ranting threats about converting to their particular form of mind numbing control for thousands of years.
Just because the leader of Iran is spouting it, it doesn't warrant anything other than the usual response. Ignore them and they will shut up.
As a Christian I will apologize for the "nutter" you spoke to.  He should have been more sensitive in his terminology.  However, that does not diminish the reality of the existence of hell.  The big difference between Christianity and Islam is this - we do not make people vanish from the earth because they believe differently.  Radical Islam does.  They murder those who refuse to convert in order to further their religion.  We simply tell people what we believe rather than threatening to kill them.  A very large contrast in my opinion.
I take your point and see were you are coming from. I am looking at the situation in a different way because I am an Atheist perhaps.
Ahmadinejad like myself does not believe in the existence of hell.

The Jehovah's Witnesses and End Timer's have been telling people for years that they must sign up to their form of Christianity, telling people "if you don't convert, you will spend eternity rotting in hell", "when judgment day comes you will die and not be raptured up" thats prity much the worst thing (if hell existed) one could imagine being their ending.
From my Atheist View Point
"Rest assured that if you do not respond to the divine call, you will die soon and vanish from the face of the earth,"
Is prity much the same shit only coming from a Muslim not a Christian.
Hes got a big mouth and should be ignored. He craves this attention. It rallies the peoples of other Arab nations to Iran power struggle with the west.
kr@cker
Bringin' Sexy Back!
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but they (the christian sects) don't kill you if you don't convert
Major_Spittle
Banned
+276|6929|United States of America
One of these days Ahmangotabanjo is going to really piss off Europe and they will pass a real stern resolution in the U.N. condemning what he said.  And you know what, he will deserve it.
ghettoperson
Member
+1,943|6923

usmarine2007 wrote:

I like him.  He looks like the guy who works at the gas station down the road from my house.
I get the impression he's a pretty nice guy really. The kind of guy you could hang around with, have a few beers, and make dead baby jokes with.
EVieira
Member
+105|6752|Lutenblaag, Molvania

Major_Spittle wrote:

One of these days Ahmangotabanjo is going to really piss off Europe and they will pass a real stern resolution in the U.N. condemning what he said.  And you know what, he will deserve it.
Ooohhhh, a real stern resolution! He'll learn his lesson then! Give'm hell UN, just like all the stern resolutions against Israel...
"All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered;  the point is to discover them."
Galileo Galilei  (1564-1642)
kr@cker
Bringin' Sexy Back!
+581|6823|Southeastern USA
yeah, how dare israel defend itself......oh wait, wrong thread
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6875|132 and Bush

Major_Spittle wrote:

One of these days Ahmangotabanjo is going to really piss off Europe and they will pass a real stern resolution in the U.N. condemning what he said.  And you know what, he will deserve it.
Unlikely.
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