Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6638|SE London

Kmarion wrote:

BTW Bertster7, I have Vista on another machine and will not move it to my primary until they get drivers and all the other crap worked out. So no, I don't advocating upgrading at this point. Not until the hardware and software developers catch up.
Yeah, a friend of mine is running Ultimate Edition at the moment. Saw it running earlier today, looks quite pretty, even though he isn't running a DX10 card (the chess bits didn't have all their nice transparencies etc.). I think he's has some issues with HW. He had to get a router because it didn't support his internal modem, etc...

Last edited by Bertster7 (2006-12-05 15:02:38)

Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6657|132 and Bush

Bertster7 wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

[H]ardOCP published a whole article on this.
XP will not get DX10. The only way to game in DX10 is with DX10 hardware and DX10 software on Vista, only Vista, and nothing but Vista.

You can (for now) still install DX10 games on DX9 hardware/XP, but they will run in reduced eye candy mode. I'm not sure how long that will last though, with the new shader model and physics stuff on the way. Surely at some point there will be a DX9 cut-off, same as <DX6 is no longer supported, and most games require DX7 hardware (or higher) to even run in crap mode.

Can you put a DX10 card or software in an XP system? Yes. Will it run in DX10 mode? No.
You're not listening.

The only official way to play DX10 games will be through Vista. But with a DX10 API on XP there is no reason DX10 games will not work in XP.

Once a fully working DX10 API is released for XP you will be able to use a DX10 card to run DX10 apps with all features. It can already be done through openGL, but no games due for release support openGL.

Wine are remaking DX10 for Linux and XP. It will have all the features and a similarly constructed pipeline.

I'd be interested to see a link to this article, because I'd bet that it doesn't make any claims about 3rd party solutions. DX10 can work in OSs other than Vista, just not the way Microsoft made it. It needs to be totally remade.
I see now what you are saying, or at least am reading it..


No need to put

Code:

[url][/url]
in your post just post the direct link.. I copied and pasted it. ..now I can see


edit:Yes I should have caught it anyways .

Last edited by Kmarion (2006-12-05 15:04:27)

Xbone Stormsurgezz
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6638|SE London

Kmarion wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

[H]ardOCP published a whole article on this.
XP will not get DX10. The only way to game in DX10 is with DX10 hardware and DX10 software on Vista, only Vista, and nothing but Vista.

You can (for now) still install DX10 games on DX9 hardware/XP, but they will run in reduced eye candy mode. I'm not sure how long that will last though, with the new shader model and physics stuff on the way. Surely at some point there will be a DX9 cut-off, same as <DX6 is no longer supported, and most games require DX7 hardware (or higher) to even run in crap mode.

Can you put a DX10 card or software in an XP system? Yes. Will it run in DX10 mode? No.
You're not listening.

The only official way to play DX10 games will be through Vista. But with a DX10 API on XP there is no reason DX10 games will not work in XP.

Once a fully working DX10 API is released for XP you will be able to use a DX10 card to run DX10 apps with all features. It can already be done through openGL, but no games due for release support openGL.

Wine are remaking DX10 for Linux and XP. It will have all the features and a similarly constructed pipeline.

I'd be interested to see a link to this article, because I'd bet that it doesn't make any claims about 3rd party solutions. DX10 can work in OSs other than Vista, just not the way Microsoft made it. It needs to be totally remade.
I see now what you are saying, or at least am reading it..


No need to put

Code:

[url][/url]
in your post just post the direct link.. I copied and pasted it. ..now I can see


edit:Yes I should have caught it anyways .
Doh!

Didn't realise I'd missed the / off the end.

Sorry.

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