Techworld
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I am thinking more of doing something like communications and computer systems, or electronic engineering
Scorpion0x17
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Techworld wrote:

I am thinking more of doing something like communications and computer systems, or electronic engineering
Well, it comes down to do you want to hardware or software?

As others have said, CS is mostly coding with a bit of hardware theory thrown in. It sounds like you want an 'Engineering' degree for definate, rather than a 'Science'.

The electronic engineering degree looks like it has a mainly hardware slant from the look of it, with a little bit of coding.

The Computer systems + Communications degree looks very similar, but with a more comms slant, to the degree I did - looks designed to give a good working knowledge of a whole 'sphere', rather than an in-depth, more theoretical, knowledge of a single 'field' within that sphere. If you see what I mean. It's got a leaning towards comms hardware, but from a 'coding for' and 'interfacing with' angle.

Oh, another to consider is what University - to a certain extent 'a degree is a degree is a degree' and University is about far much more than what degree you take. Obviously, do a degree that you're going to enjoy doing, rather than find a chore, but don't just choose one and go 'right, that's the one' - draw up a short-list of degrees at different Universities and then go see the universities themselves - when I did this I was suprised at how much of a difference in 'feel' there is about different universities and different university cities and ended up going for my second-choice course based purely on the 'feel' of the univeristy I attended.

Where are you considering?
Scorpion0x17
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Vilham wrote:

K so basically..

1. You can ignore everything said before, I doubt any of these guys have done this degree.
2. Depends on the country you are studying in.

In Nottingham Uni England, year 1 this is how it is.

G51APS Algorithmic Problem Solving (Autumn) cr10 - Solving problems. Quite interesting but hard.
G51CSA Computer Systems Architecture (Autumn) cr10   -   Low level programming. Ie programming the CPU directly without a compiler and shit.
G51DBS Database Systems (Spring) cr10     -   Not done yet.
G51FUN Functional Programming (Spring) cr10     -   Not done yet.
G51HOC History of Computers and Computing (Autumn) cr10   -   What it says on the tin. (Optional module).
G51IRB Introduction to Robotics (Spring) cr10      -   Not done yet.
G51ISE Introduction to Software Engineering (Spring) cr10   -  Not done yet.
G51MCS Mathematics for Computer Scientists (Autumn) cr10  -  Algebra and Boolean maths.
G51PRG Programming (Full Year) cr20  -  this is a Java programming course.
G51SCI Skills for Communicating Information (Autumn) cr10   -   Binar and stuff.
G51UST Unix and Software Tools (Spring) cr10     -   Not done yet.

Basically so far its been quite an easy course and had some interesting bits. Hope that helps.
1. Stop being an arrogant twat.
2. We've already established that he's in the UK.
3. It might help if you actually stated exactly what degree it is you're doing. All degrees at all univeristies differ from similarly titled degrees at other universities.
Vilham
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Hmm.. lets take a guess... you think maybe I might be doing CS....

I know they differ, hint "Nottingham" I didn't say the whole of the UK. Im not being arrogant im pointing out none of these guys have done CS, everyone ive talked to that doesn't do it don't have a clue what it involves.

Stop being a moody teenager.
Techworld
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Lmao... you guys crack me up "arrogant twat, moody teenager" lmao.

anyhow... that guideline , Vilham looks ok, not too bad.

After you finish that degree , what next?
Vilham
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Techworld wrote:

Lmao... you guys crack me up "arrogant twat, moody teenager" lmao.

anyhow... that guideline , Vilham looks ok, not too bad.

After you finish that degree , what next?


Well not realy too sure, I think I could maybe get into games development or some such thing, all I know is if I need money I can go as a tech support for some large company and have them paying me alot to sort out their IT systems.
Techworld
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lol nice... do you get alot of work to do at home? Or is it pretty easy goin
unnamednewbie13
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Techworld wrote:

lol thats what im afraid of... does that computer systems and communications one look ok?

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

They both look good.

Here's the big question you need to be asking yourself - what do you want to for a career after Uni?

And be specific - 'something with computers' won't cut it - as you're finding out the IT industry is a big big industry with lots of different sub-trades within it, all of which require slightly different core skill sets.

So, what do you want to do?
The communications one is more versatile, but (techworld) expect to specialize in something particular and enjoy it if you want a good job experience.

If you don't have an even head for math and analytical thinking...reconsider. I remember a couple of people dropping out of one of the courses I attended, which was only basic electronics at a tech college.

Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2006-12-09 04:32:03)

Vilham
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Techworld wrote:

lol nice... do you get alot of work to do at home? Or is it pretty easy goin
My first year is quite easy. I find the programming quite easy even though I have done next to nothing before.
The coursework can be done at home but most people try to get it done between two lectures or something so everyone can help each other out.
Techworld
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unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Techworld wrote:

lol thats what im afraid of... does that computer systems and communications one look ok?

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

They both look good.

Here's the big question you need to be asking yourself - what do you want to for a career after Uni?

And be specific - 'something with computers' won't cut it - as you're finding out the IT industry is a big big industry with lots of different sub-trades within it, all of which require slightly different core skill sets.

So, what do you want to do?
The communications one is more versatile, but (techworld) expect to specialize in something particular and enjoy it if you want a good job experience.

If you don't have an even head for math and analytical thinking...reconsider. I remember a couple of people dropping out of one of the courses I attended, which was only basic electronics at a tech college.
lol same here.... first week of electronics A-level... Binary knocked a few from the course?!
JE3146
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Vilham wrote:

K so basically..

1. You can ignore everything said before, I doubt any of these guys have done this degree.
2. Depends on the country you are studying in.

In Nottingham Uni England, year 1 this is how it is.

G51APS Algorithmic Problem Solving (Autumn) cr10 - Solving problems. Quite interesting but hard.
G51CSA Computer Systems Architecture (Autumn) cr10   -   Low level programming. Ie programming the CPU directly without a compiler and shit.
G51DBS Database Systems (Spring) cr10     -   Not done yet.
G51FUN Functional Programming (Spring) cr10     -   Not done yet.
G51HOC History of Computers and Computing (Autumn) cr10   -   What it says on the tin. (Optional module).
G51IRB Introduction to Robotics (Spring) cr10      -   Not done yet.
G51ISE Introduction to Software Engineering (Spring) cr10   -  Not done yet.
G51MCS Mathematics for Computer Scientists (Autumn) cr10  -  Algebra and Boolean maths.
G51PRG Programming (Full Year) cr20  -  this is a Java programming course.
G51SCI Skills for Communicating Information (Autumn) cr10   -   Binar and stuff.
G51UST Unix and Software Tools (Spring) cr10     -   Not done yet.

Basically so far its been quite an easy course and had some interesting bits. Hope that helps.
Ya so my Junior status in CpE means nothing....

Arrogant prick....

I've slaved enough hours in a book to earn the right to talk about my own damn major.. so fuck you.

And by the looks of it, you're nothing but a 1st year student... so in all honesty... what the hell would you know?
unnamednewbie13
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Techworld wrote:

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Techworld wrote:

lol thats what im afraid of... does that computer systems and communications one look ok?

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

They both look good.

Here's the big question you need to be asking yourself - what do you want to for a career after Uni?

And be specific - 'something with computers' won't cut it - as you're finding out the IT industry is a big big industry with lots of different sub-trades within it, all of which require slightly different core skill sets.

So, what do you want to do?
The communications one is more versatile, but (techworld) expect to specialize in something particular and enjoy it if you want a good job experience.

If you don't have an even head for math and analytical thinking...reconsider. I remember a couple of people dropping out of one of the courses I attended, which was only basic electronics at a tech college.
lol same here.... first week of electronics A-level... Binary knocked a few from the course?!
Didn't see any problems at binary. The couple of drops were during basic electronic circuitry. We're talking about resistors and diodes, here, even with breadboards and power supplies to help illustrate the lessons.
Vilham
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JE3146 wrote:

Vilham wrote:

K so basically..

1. You can ignore everything said before, I doubt any of these guys have done this degree.
2. Depends on the country you are studying in.

In Nottingham Uni England, year 1 this is how it is.

G51APS Algorithmic Problem Solving (Autumn) cr10 - Solving problems. Quite interesting but hard.
G51CSA Computer Systems Architecture (Autumn) cr10   -   Low level programming. Ie programming the CPU directly without a compiler and shit.
G51DBS Database Systems (Spring) cr10     -   Not done yet.
G51FUN Functional Programming (Spring) cr10     -   Not done yet.
G51HOC History of Computers and Computing (Autumn) cr10   -   What it says on the tin. (Optional module).
G51IRB Introduction to Robotics (Spring) cr10      -   Not done yet.
G51ISE Introduction to Software Engineering (Spring) cr10   -  Not done yet.
G51MCS Mathematics for Computer Scientists (Autumn) cr10  -  Algebra and Boolean maths.
G51PRG Programming (Full Year) cr20  -  this is a Java programming course.
G51SCI Skills for Communicating Information (Autumn) cr10   -   Binar and stuff.
G51UST Unix and Software Tools (Spring) cr10     -   Not done yet.

Basically so far its been quite an easy course and had some interesting bits. Hope that helps.
Ya so my Junior status in CpE means nothing....

Arrogant prick....

I've slaved enough hours in a book to earn the right to talk about my own damn major.. so fuck you.

And by the looks of it, you're nothing but a 1st year student... so in all honesty... what the hell would you know?
I would know wtf computer science involves.... whereas you wouldn't, seeing as you didn't do it and are not currently doing it. Your major isn't in computer science its in a different field, seeing as this was a response to his first question.. so fuck you. Think before you post.

Incase you didn't notice my number 1 on that first post was being light hearted... so fuck you.

Last edited by Vilham (2006-12-10 01:13:08)

JE3146
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Vilham wrote:

JE3146 wrote:

Vilham wrote:

K so basically..

1. You can ignore everything said before, I doubt any of these guys have done this degree.
2. Depends on the country you are studying in.

In Nottingham Uni England, year 1 this is how it is.

G51APS Algorithmic Problem Solving (Autumn) cr10 - Solving problems. Quite interesting but hard.
G51CSA Computer Systems Architecture (Autumn) cr10   -   Low level programming. Ie programming the CPU directly without a compiler and shit.
G51DBS Database Systems (Spring) cr10     -   Not done yet.
G51FUN Functional Programming (Spring) cr10     -   Not done yet.
G51HOC History of Computers and Computing (Autumn) cr10   -   What it says on the tin. (Optional module).
G51IRB Introduction to Robotics (Spring) cr10      -   Not done yet.
G51ISE Introduction to Software Engineering (Spring) cr10   -  Not done yet.
G51MCS Mathematics for Computer Scientists (Autumn) cr10  -  Algebra and Boolean maths.
G51PRG Programming (Full Year) cr20  -  this is a Java programming course.
G51SCI Skills for Communicating Information (Autumn) cr10   -   Binar and stuff.
G51UST Unix and Software Tools (Spring) cr10     -   Not done yet.

Basically so far its been quite an easy course and had some interesting bits. Hope that helps.
Ya so my Junior status in CpE means nothing....

Arrogant prick....

I've slaved enough hours in a book to earn the right to talk about my own damn major.. so fuck you.

And by the looks of it, you're nothing but a 1st year student... so in all honesty... what the hell would you know?
I would know wtf computer science involves.... whereas you wouldn't, seeing as you didn't do it and are not currently doing it. Your major isn't in computer science its in a different field, seeing as this was a response to his first question.. so fuck you. Think before you post.

Incase you didn't notice my number 1 on that first post was being light hearted... so fuck you.
My major is a hybrid of CS and EE. I take the SAME courses as both of them up until Senior Year. THEN it is different. I did think before I posted.
Scorpion0x17
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Vilham wrote:

Hmm.. lets take a guess... you think maybe I might be doing CS....

I know they differ, hint "Nottingham" I didn't say the whole of the UK. Im not being arrogant im pointing out none of these guys have done CS, everyone ive talked to that doesn't do it don't have a clue what it involves.

Stop being a moody teenager.
Stop being a stroppy 20-something!

And if you'd read all my posts in this thread you'd know that I stopped being a teenager over 10years ago, a couple of years before I graduated in fact. Graduated with a degree in Software Engineering. A very closely related subject to CS - we even had many of the same lectures as the CS guys, so yeah, actually, some of us do have some knowledge about what CS involves.

Now shut up and go grow some real hair on your chin. Bloody Students!
Vilham
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Well don't think ill be going with the hair on my chin as thats what gays have and women under 30 hate.

Sounds to me like your a teenager in an adults body then. I am doing CS and know what the course is about, rather than having "some" knowledge, if your so much of an expert please explain why you didn't list out the fields the course covers?

Now stop trashing this thread.
Scorpion0x17
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Oh and you're so mature, using phrasing like "thats what gays have".

I didn't list out specific course listings because, as I said before, every degree at every university is similar but different to every other similarly named course at every other university.

The only course listings techworld needs to worry about is those that he is considering doing at universities that he is considering going to. Not what course you're doing. Not what course anyone else is doing or has done or is going to do.

If you'd have bothered to read the actual thread content before posting an arrogant message about how nobody else but you can possibly know what they're talking about, you'd have seen that a) techworld appears to want to do more of a electronic/computer systems engineering degree than computer science so listing CS course details is actually pointless and b) we were getting along just find and just about figuring out exactly what it was techworld wants when you came on in with the your 'I'm better than you' attitude.

Last edited by Scorpion0x17 (2006-12-13 13:19:20)

Vilham
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1. My reply was to his original post.
2. The course actually varies very little between university's to be classified as CS it has to follow certain guide lines. The only major change will be possibly their names the content, ie what coursework and the optional modules.
3. You still haven't actually done CS, you have done a course that involved some of the same modules, whereas im doing a full CS degree and know what all the modules envolve.
4. It wasn't a better than you attitude, it was a dubeous that these guys actually have done the course, especially after I read the first half the page and a single person had yet to say they did CS.
5. "Now shut up and go grow some real hair on your chin. " seems to me that you have this "I'm better than you" attitude towards students.

Now please be quite and stop trashing his thread.
Scorpion0x17
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Vilham wrote:

"Now shut up and go grow some real hair on your chin. " seems to me that you have this "I'm better than you" attitude towards students.
Despite the smiley?
Scorpion0x17
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Oops, sorry Techworld, did we kill the thread?

Anyhoo, getting back to the thread topic, have you decided which course you want to do?
Scardaddy
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Techworld wrote:

Is this a good degree?

What do you study in it? Is there any networking etc in it or is it all code?


Thanks
I do it in the UK and it's got a large bit of networking as well as database, systems management, Java coding, how to build systems and there hardware, even a really little bit of business and multimedia... good luck very broad scope of topics are in that category so make sure you check it out before you buy...

and gees there are some moody people here maybe you should leave your attitudes at home when your trying to give unbiased advice... don't cha think...

Last edited by Scardaddy (2006-12-17 12:14:36)

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