Rumsfeld memo admits Iraq strategy failing

2006-12-03 05:56:45

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Fancy_Pollux: Connoisseur of Fine Wine; +1,306|6919

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/12/02/rumsfe … index.html

"In my view it is time for a major adjustment. Clearly, what U.S. forces are currently doing in Iraq is not working well enough or fast enough," Rumsfeld said in the classified memo, dated November 6.

https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v256/deathbym0nkeyz/RumsfeldAngry.jpg

Discuss.

2006-12-03 06:03:49

#2

Ssandstorm: Member; +73|7007|Perth, Western Australia

It seems the US government is finally coming to grips with what most people knew years ago. Hopefully a withdrawal is initiated asap slow the death rate in Iraq on all sides.

2006-12-03 06:06:13

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Doctor Strangelove: Real Battlefield Veterinarian.; +1,758|6741

Took him that long? Well nothing against him as only Powell knew who bad Iraq would be before we entered.

2006-12-03 06:06:48

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ghettoperson: Member; +1,943|6922

I thought he got fired?

2006-12-03 06:21:31

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CameronPoe: Member; +2,925|6828

https://images.fok.nl/upload/donald_rumsfeld.jpg

WAAAAYYYY too late Rummy, you murderous, bloodthirsty, dollar-whoring son of a mother fucker!

Last edited by CameronPoe (2006-12-03 06:48:30)

2006-12-03 07:13:04

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JahManRed: wank; +646|6901|IRELAND

"not working well enough, fast enough." No shit! http://www.iraqbodycount.org/

2006-12-03 07:15:58

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spray_and_pray: Member; +52|6764|Perth. Western Australia

That body count is bullshit and they know it.

2006-12-03 07:18:53

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Stingray24: Proud member of the vast right-wing conspiracy; +1,060|6718|The Land of Scott Walker

Ssandstorm wrote:
It seems the US government is finally coming to grips with what most people knew years ago. Hopefully a withdrawal is initiated asap slow the death rate in Iraq on all sides.

Major adjustment doesn't automatically mean turning and running like pussies.

Last edited by Stingray24 (2006-12-03 07:19:08)

2006-12-03 07:43:54

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Doctor Strangelove: Real Battlefield Veterinarian.; +1,758|6741

Odd the only person in the Bush Administration origenally against the war was the only one ever in the military.

2006-12-03 08:08:48

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TeamZephyr: Maintaining My Rage Since 1975; +124|6802|Hillside, Melbourne, Australia

Stingray24 wrote:
Ssandstorm wrote:
It seems the US government is finally coming to grips with what most people knew years ago. Hopefully a withdrawal is initiated asap slow the death rate in Iraq on all sides.
Major adjustment doesn't automatically mean turning and running like pussies.

Yeah, it's important that we keep our precious image of the big tough guys.

2006-12-03 08:41:19

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usmarine2007: Banned; +374|6640|Columbus, Ohio

Rumsfeld is a fucking tool box.

2006-12-03 08:53:46

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Zimmer: Un Moderador; +1,688|7029|Scotland

Did you guys hear his speech he made a while ago?
"There are things we do know, but we dont know because we want to know"
"there are some things we want to know that we do know but we dont know"
He talks so much shit...

2006-12-03 08:57:13

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commissargizz: Member; +123|6737| Heaven

He fucked up, his punishment he loses his job, good job he wasn't Russian or Japanese or he would lose his life. Fucking politicians, send them all to the front line. Scumbags.

2006-12-03 09:07:31

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GunSlinger OIF II: Banned.; +1,860|6917

usmarine2007 wrote:
Rumsfeld is a fucking tool box.

2006-12-03 09:47:02

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Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|6874|132 and Bush

Rumsfeld backed pullback in Iraq

A day before election defeat cost Rumsfeld his job, the outgoing defense secretary told the White House: "It is time for a major adjustment. Clearly, what U.S. forces are currently doing in Iraq is not working well enough or fast enough."

The
Pentagon confirmed the contents of the note, published by the New York Times, in which Rumsfeld, a leading planner of the Iraq war, outlined several options but endorsed none. It was sent on November 6, a day before voter dismay over Iraq handed control of Congress to
President George W. Bush's Democratic opponents.

Among options mentioned by Rumsfeld were reductions in U.S. forces and bases and a recasting of the U.S. goals there. He suggested cutting U.S. bases to just five from 55 by mid-2007.

Xbone Stormsurgezz

2006-12-03 09:51:46

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GunSlinger OIF II: Banned.; +1,860|6917

i think its funny how he says that what the troops in Iraq are doing aint working when hes the cocksucker that oversaw the entire iraq policy from its inception.

2006-12-03 10:21:09

#17

Turquoise: O Canada; +1,596|6678|North Carolina

Stingray24 wrote:
Ssandstorm wrote:
It seems the US government is finally coming to grips with what most people knew years ago. Hopefully a withdrawal is initiated asap slow the death rate in Iraq on all sides.
Major adjustment doesn't automatically mean turning and running like pussies.

Nixon decided to "cut and run" from Vietnam, and it was a good move. Perhaps, Bush will wake up too.

2006-12-03 10:40:24

#18

Stingray24: Proud member of the vast right-wing conspiracy; +1,060|6718|The Land of Scott Walker

TeamZephyr wrote:
Stingray24 wrote:
Ssandstorm wrote:
It seems the US government is finally coming to grips with what most people knew years ago. Hopefully a withdrawal is initiated asap slow the death rate in Iraq on all sides.
Major adjustment doesn't automatically mean turning and running like pussies.
Yeah, it's important that we keep our precious image of the big tough guys.

I was pointing out that the fact that just because Rumsfeld stated we need major adjustment does not mean he was suggesting withdrawal. You assumed he was agreeing with your desire for withdrawal. Mmmkay?

I hope you're not in the military if you'd rather we lose the will to win, give up and let the enemy win. It is important that the enemy see us as tough and ready to kick ass. That's the whole point of the military - killing the enemy and breaking stuff.

2006-12-03 10:46:08

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Doctor Strangelove: Real Battlefield Veterinarian.; +1,758|6741

Turquoise wrote:
Nixon decided to "cut and run" from Vietnam, and it was a good move. Perhaps, Bush will wake up too.

Cut and run is how I get knife kills. Strategic withdrawal is a better word.

2006-12-03 13:13:06

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rawls2: Mr. Bigglesworth; +89|6833

Immediate withdrawl of conventional forces and an increase in "Guerilla - type", US secret forces is what we need. ASAP.

2006-12-04 09:05:56

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GATOR591957: Member; +84|6900

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
i think its funny how he says that what the troops in Iraq are doing aint working when hes the cocksucker that oversaw the entire iraq policy from its inception.

Don't forget he PLANNED the invasion and occupation ignoring a 13 yr. ongoing plan that was already in place.

Last edited by GATOR591957 (2006-12-04 09:06:40)

2006-12-04 09:19:08

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GATOR591957: Member; +84|6900

The same day this memo was written George Bush was speaking to an audience saying how "pullback was not an option. We have a plan to win this war." Claining it was "Cut and run" Odd how they were thinking the same thing as the Democrats but when the Democrats say it they call it cut and run MMMMMMMMMM.

2006-12-04 09:29:06

#23

kr@cker: Bringin' Sexy Back!; +581|6822|Southeastern USA

TeamZephyr wrote:
Stingray24 wrote:
Ssandstorm wrote:
It seems the US government is finally coming to grips with what most people knew years ago. Hopefully a withdrawal is initiated asap slow the death rate in Iraq on all sides.
Major adjustment doesn't automatically mean turning and running like pussies.
Yeah, it's important that we keep our precious image of the big tough guys.

or.........i dunno..........an adjustment that involves something along the lines of winning.

2006-12-04 09:30:53

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kr@cker: Bringin' Sexy Back!; +581|6822|Southeastern USA

zimmer92 wrote:
Did you guys hear his speech he made a while ago?
"There are things we do know, but we dont know because we want to know"
"there are some things we want to know that we do know but we dont know"
He talks so much shit...

it makes perfect sense, you should try actually listening to the press coference and understanding the context.

2006-12-04 09:30:56

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Mason4Assassin444: retired; +552|6935|USA

kr@cker wrote:
TeamZephyr wrote:
Stingray24 wrote:

Major adjustment doesn't automatically mean turning and running like pussies.
Yeah, it's important that we keep our precious image of the big tough guys.
or.........i dunno..........an adjustment that involves something along the lines of winning.

What outlines winning again?

Is it the "Iraqi's take control" thing?

I've lost track....

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