BF2S Forums .99999999~ = 1!!!!

Stags wrote:

Towelly, two people have already said that.   Someone else and I.


Samething actually happens with the 0.999999... = 1 as I explained in my previous post.

You can't expect me to read more than a page of drivel about how 2 completely different numbers can be equated to each other. If I was asked the question 2-1=? in my A-levels (and god knows I'd love it if they did) what mark do you think they would give me if I said = .9999999999999"

4-5 years (I would be 12 at the time) ago my maths teacher slapped this idea on the board and ran us all through it, most in the class (top set for maths not that it really meant anything back then) agreed as the equations made a modicum of sense, however about 5 of us thought differently. Whichever way you look at it (and kmal has already said this one) the entire principle of maths is based upon each number being individual from another.

However with your logic I would like to present to you "New Math"

As of today 3 = 4 due to this equation

1+1+1 = 3 = x
x +1 = 4

3 = 4

As well as this  y = x² no longer makes a nice neat symmetrical curve, it now makes whatever shit I want to throw onto a piece of graph paper... All because I said so.....

Seriously, mathematics dictates that no two numbers can be equal to the same value, end of, no exceptions and goodnight.

EDIT: a small addition

Last edited by Towelly (2006-11-29 17:31:03)

besides, 2+2=chair

AllmightyOz wrote:

you left out the fuckin .99999 douche.

Did you even take algebra? That's completely wrong. If you change a variable or do any operation on one side of the = sign you must do the same to the other side.

if you are talking to the author of the thread, he did so. The op is right.

he wrote, in other words, this : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/0.99#Algebraic_proof

oh and this explains why do people dont accept that 0.99... (INFINITE number of 9, dont forget) = 1 : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/0.99#Skept … _education

Last edited by -=raska=- (2006-11-29 17:36:34)

Des.Kmal wrote:

Onionpaste wrote:

variable



logic

you get 9.00000~     9x = 9

Divide each side by 9, and you get [i]x = 1.[/i]

bold: log‧ic  /ˈlɒdʒɪk/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[loj-ik] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun
1.    the science that investigates the principles governing correct or reliable inference.

Inference, still not fact. Logic by all means, is like an opinion, until it is a hard fact then it is nothing but an abstract idea.

Underline. Since infinity is not a number, but rather something the human mind cannot comprehend, )can you count to infinity?) then is it really something to debate FOR if you cannot explain it?

Italics: Well fucking duh, 9/9 = 10

anything, twisted and turned to get that would = 1. Thats basic math. 8/8 =1. So, by all means, show me more, since I am going to guess that 1.99~ = 2?

Hmmm....? Makes you wonder.

Although, any number is a number, ONE number, not more than one number.

Here is a correct statement: The EQUATION .999999999~ = 1 is correct. But not the actual number, the statement of equation is though.

Equation is right. Mmk? Not teh number. 1 number can only be one number.

But gg to anyone who needs that info to sleep.

We're such nerds! Don't try to deny it either!

Gulf_War_Syndrome wrote:

Oh, by the way, i² = -1
Discuss.

True

1/3 = 0,33~

try it on calc.exe, then multiply it by 3 again, you will see, it equals 1.

If anyone's interested, while on the topic of infinity, infinity^infinity=A, and infinity=B,
then A > B.  It's true.

Chief_(OwNaGe) wrote:

47man wrote:

Chief_(OwNaGe) wrote:

-=raska=- has this right:

1/3 = 0.3333333333333....

1/3 + 1/3 + 1/3 = 0.9999999999999999....

1/3 + 1/3 + 1/3 = 3/3

3/3 = 1


what don't you doubters understand?

Because 1/3 is NOT 0.3333333....
We use it as such because the decimal is so infinitesimally small that there is simply no logic with using it in normal "math". .333333+.333333+.333333=.9999999
1/3  +     1/3   +   1/3   =    1

is it just me or did you just contradict yourself...

you just proved me right..?

Infinity's such a massive concept.

-=raska=- wrote:

lt603668 wrote:

-=raska=- wrote:

1/3 = 0,33~

try it on calc.exe, then multiply it by 3 again, you will see, it equals 1.

SHUT THE FUCK UP!

why ?

he's a prick, ignore him.

47man wrote:

Because 1/3 is NOT 0.3333333....
We use it as such because the decimal is so infinitesimally small that there is simply no logic with using it in normal "math". .333333+.333333+.333333=.9999999
1/3  +     1/3   +   1/3   =    1

You would be right if you said 1/3 is not 0.3 or 0.33 or 0.333 or 0.3333 but
1/3 is equal to 0.3~ (recurring - an infinite number of 3's).

While 0.333333~ may not be a number that a human can accurately work with, the value 1/3 is.
There are a lot of numbers that occur in the universe that may not occur in your day to day life, but (most) humans can still understand their concepts - take infinity, pi, the square root of -1 (i) or the natural number (e) as the most common examples.
Just because I can't have e apples, doesn't mean that that number doesn't exist.

I don't know what you think is "normal" maths, and I don't quite understand why you think we aren't dealing in "normal" maths. Maths is a universal concept - even if an alien civilisation (say one that doesn't count in base 10) would be able to understand these concepts.

This argument has arisen simply because some people's brains are not able to grasp abstract concepts such as multi-dimentions, infinity, imaginary numbers, uncertainties and probabilities etc. They run on the exact same emotional drives that caused us to believe we live on a flat planet at the centre of the universe.

For those people, just remember ignorance is bliss. If you want to be happy, don't take up IT or science - it's obviously not for you. Stick to the more earth bound concepts of art, music or bricklaying and don't stifle the work of the great scientific minds.

It's a good thing people like Einstein didn't post on forums otherwise they may have been discouraged from their work by kids like Des.Kmal calling them "dumbfucks".

and we are coming back to beginning again....

-=raska=- wrote:

kmal : square root of -2 = 1,41i

now, argue.

Oo, imaginary numbers (that's not sarcasm just what we call them), that stuff gets complicated, thank god I'm not doing further maths next year.