Cheez
Herman is a warmaphrodite
+1,027|6712|King Of The Islands

Turquoise wrote:

European nations don't allow the injection of bovine growth hormones into their cows.
(And either does Australia AFAIK)

So what the fuck's the concern? They're not even in the cow and you panic aboot it.

And yes, udders would be cool.
My state was founded by Batman. Your opinion is invalid.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6678|North Carolina

Cheez wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

European nations don't allow the injection of bovine growth hormones into their cows.
(And either does Australia AFAIK)

So what the fuck's the concern? They're not even in the cow and you panic aboot it.

And yes, udders would be cool.
The concern is that the hormones accelerate things like puberty in our children.  That's not a good thing.  That can have a grave effect on the health of a child, and it actually contributes to obesity as well.
Cheez
Herman is a warmaphrodite
+1,027|6712|King Of The Islands

Yes, that may be true. However, if its not in the cow to begin with, how does the child intake this hormone?
My state was founded by Batman. Your opinion is invalid.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6678|North Carolina
I'm not following you....  We do use these hormones here in America, so when a child drinks the milk, they also ingest the hormones.  The hormones actually end up in the milk, because milk acts as a sort of filter in a cow.  It's almost like drinking the cow's blood, if you think about it.  It's kind of a disgusting thought....
Executiator
Member
+69|6694

IRONCHEF wrote:

Organic milk, if it truly follows organic farming principles, removes hormones and some of the puss and bacteria.  It still leaves you with MILK...which has little to be desirable in it.  Put it this way, if you have a decent diet, you can do quite well abandoning milk 100% of the time.  Ever wonder why vegans are so healthy? 

A cup of my almond milk is almonds and purified water.  It actually tears away at the cholesterol in my arteries that is there from years of cow milk usage.  It doesn't have ANY of the side effects or shit in it that milk has.

Soy milk producers, like Silk, use carageenan in their milk as an emulsifier (to make it thick and creamy looking)..this stuff is bad.  But still, the difference in drinking a cup of silk and a cup of cow milk is the difference between drinking medicine vs. beer in terms of health productivity.
The idea that vegans are healthier than meat eater is a common misconception.

Most vegans get sick and aenemic from not getting any nutritional fatty acids found in most red meat.

Most of my family was vegan and now they switched back and they're much healthier.
Ty
Mass Media Casualty
+2,398|7047|Noizyland

Don't believe everything you read IRONCHEF.
I've worked in a milking shed. Believe me when I say milk is not put through the the schite you're talking about, at least not in NZ.
There is nothing to back the argument tha cows milk is bad for you.
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Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6678|North Carolina
I just prefer soy milk, but yeah, Veganism is highly impractical.  I'm happy with being an omnivore myself.
{BMF}*Frank_The_Tank
U.S. > Iran
+497|6851|Florida
I cant stand milk.  The only time I consume milk is when its used for various foods, such as macaroni and cheese and cereal. 

I cant stand to drink milk.






















Chocolate milk rules. - Strawberry is good too.
https://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i143/christurner85/chocomilk.jpg
ssj3barua
Member
+55|6962|Indianapolis, IN, U.S.
Almost every Vegan I have ever know has switched back because they became sick and feeble.
Cheez
Herman is a warmaphrodite
+1,027|6712|King Of The Islands

ssj3barua wrote:

Almost every Vegan I have ever know has switched back because they became sick and feeble.
My Precious!
My state was founded by Batman. Your opinion is invalid.
Towelly
It's A State Of Mind
+399|6864|Your attic
Ok, time for an experiment, be back in a minute.
IRONCHEF
Member
+385|6764|Northern California
I swear, it's like nobody here by serge has read a single link I've left.  IT supports the things I'm saying and provides TONS more proof, logic, and understanding of this find than I can express.  But no, typical DS&T people here who can't read and have to see a 30 second youtube video for their education...  sad.

Anyway, at least turquoise has some educated concept of understanding of the dangers of milk.  And yes, the big one gallon jugs of milk that is in every supermarket in this country is the milk I'm talking about that is mass produced from swollen, infected cows living in a cell of their own shit (for life). THey're pumped full of hormones, slathered with antibiotics, then milked on those slathered tits and that shit is processed, packaged, then sold for about $5 per gallon to the youth of america who guzzle it by the gallons.

And for the idiots who say "But I'm still alive..i never get sick..." Please..I never said you're going to drop dead, get sick and suddenly know its the milk!!  I've said what was in milk, linked to credible sources and to some opinions based on studies that show many of the ills of milk.  I've even done the testing myself to see results almost immediately that have stayed with me for about 2 years now.

For example..Milk is a flamatory food.  If you have an ulcer, milk actually enflames the tissue shortly after it soothes it.  Milk causes gastric acid that actually tears down your stomache lining and inflames ulcers.  And not that I don't like to fart, because I do, but milk's gastric acid acceleration causes lots of gas!  I suffer from psoriasis.  When I stopped cow milk, the inflamation was cut in half.  I also started reducing red meat and it went down even more!  Amazing concept...reduce flamatory foods, go uninflamed!  Funny the dairy ads don't mention those side effects.

There's plenty of truth out there folks.  If you're even remotely concerned with your health, and mature enough to accept truth, you could find out plenty.  The information age is upon us and you can see what milk does, how the dairy industry pays for it's good image (like tobacco did for years), and how you can live a much more healthy life.

Oh, and you guys are wrong..vegans DO live longer and have less nutritional deficiencies than meat eaters.  I'm no vegan because I believe there's wisdom in moderation (and I know what a lean meat is), but they have way less cancers, less diseases, less "down time" and a greater life expectancy.  But if you can't study such topics objectively..then you'll continue to just take what people tell you as fact.
IRONCHEF
Member
+385|6764|Northern California

Ty wrote:

Don't believe everything you read IRONCHEF.
I've worked in a milking shed. Believe me when I say milk is not put through the the schite you're talking about, at least not in NZ.
There is nothing to back the argument tha cows milk is bad for you.
lol...wrong. read dude.
BVC
Member
+325|6968
The only vegans I know are all crystal-waving feminist hippies, and always short of iron.  Meh, its a free country they can do what they want.

If you want GOOD milk, come to NZ
PogoTheMonkey
Member
+7|7023|MmM Location

Cheez wrote:

And the only thing that goes inside a cow 'round here is a bull
Post some pics!!!
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6678|North Carolina

IRONCHEF wrote:

Anyway, at least turquoise has some educated concept of understanding of the dangers of milk.  And yes, the big one gallon jugs of milk that is in every supermarket in this country is the milk I'm talking about that is mass produced from swollen, infected cows living in a cell of their own shit (for life). THey're pumped full of hormones, slathered with antibiotics, then milked on those slathered tits and that shit is processed, packaged, then sold for about $5 per gallon to the youth of america who guzzle it by the gallons.
Another thing I take issue with regarding milk are the farm subsidies we have.  I think it's bullshit that we subsidize our agriculture, when the vast majority of it is corporate and fully able to make money without government help.  The sob story of the small farmer is mostly bullshit, and the largest individual recipients of agricultural subsidies in the last year were the CEO of Hollywood Video and a former NBA star that I forget the name of (who both designated their homes as "ranches" for tax purposes).

So, when it comes to milk, there are both medical and financial issues involved.....

Last edited by Turquoise (2006-11-27 22:13:24)

Fenris_GreyClaw
Real Хорошо
+826|6792|Adelaide, South Australia

IRONCHEF wrote:

Oh, and you guys are wrong..vegans DO live longer and have less nutritional deficiencies than meat eaters.  I'm no vegan because I believe there's wisdom in moderation (and I know what a lean meat is), but they have way less cancers, less diseases, less "down time" and a greater life expectancy
Less colour in their face, less energy, less choice of food....

as for living longer, thanks, but i'll stick with meat. i'd rather not have to take vitamin supplements to LIVE.
commissargizz
Member
+123|6737| Heaven
Oh no I'm gonna die I've finished my porridge (yum yum) made with milk.
Actually I'm a vegetarian do you know the shit they put in cows for meat, holy shit, that's 10 times worse.
But yeah I have read milk is bad for you, but like most things everything in moderation.
Cheez
Herman is a warmaphrodite
+1,027|6712|King Of The Islands

PogoTheMonkey wrote:

Cheez wrote:

And the only thing that goes inside a cow 'round here is a bull
Post some pics!!!
Aww! Fuck man. That is wrong.

Go do a google if you're into that shit.
... Damn.

commissargizz wrote:

Do you know the shit they put in cows for meat,
No. Please go on. I'm curious.

Last edited by Cheez (2006-11-28 00:36:04)

My state was founded by Batman. Your opinion is invalid.
Vilham
Say wat!?
+580|7039|UK

IRONCHEF wrote:

SysTray wrote:

IRONCHEF wrote:

When I drink cows milk, I'm drinking tit-rot (my word for the bacteria in the cows tit), puss, anti-biotics (used to treat tit-rot), manure (cuz the bloated, steroid laden cows udders hang in their feces all day), and then the milk itself (full of unhealthy contents that far outweigh the few good aspects of milk).
No you're not. Pasteurization has come a long way since the dawn of the age of milk.
The cows milk YOU drink today, has all these ills.  Pasteurization does little to remove these effects.
Only in America.
Invaderzim
Chicken wing?
+49|6721|Newcastle NSW Australia

IRONCHEF wrote:

Ty wrote:
Don't believe everything you read IRONCHEF.
I've worked in a milking shed. Believe me when I say milk is not put through the the schite you're talking about, at least not in NZ.
There is nothing to back the argument tha cows milk is bad for you.

lol...wrong. read dude.
That hilarious, your actualy contradicting someone who has seen it first hand? well I suppose you would know better having read it in the internet
Jinto-sk
Laid Back Yorkshireman
+183|6864|Scarborough Yorkshire England
LMAO for years people have been eating this eating that.
Yet all of a sudden in the last decade you can't eat fuck all anymore
FFS people have been eating and drinking all these things for decades yet all of a sudden you can't eat that anymore, don't eat this anymore it's bad for you.
STFU where is your proof that it harms you (there must be some somewhere or you wouldn't come to that conclusion) but we are never shown the effects why because it is bad for you if you it have them in large quantaties.
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,054|7045|PNW

OP: I'd karma you for starting a nutrition topic, if I could. Alas, the 24 hour limitation...

As for the why? Because the dairy industry wants to sell milk. Sesame seed oil got slammed an a junk campaign to turn public favor to vegetable oil, too. But there are really several kinds of milk, and not all farms are as putrid as you make them out to be...but there is some nasty shit available on the shelves, if you're not careful.

Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2006-11-28 05:50:25)

JohnLeavitt
Member
+16|6716
OK i have worked on a farm for 4 years... i now DO NOT drink milk... everything he said about cows is true, they are druged up to give more milk, but he forgot to mention that some times the milking machine FALLS OFF INTO THE GUTTER WHERE IS SUCKS UP COW PISS!!! great stuff eh guys??? oh yea drink the cow piss milk... KNOCK YOURSELF OUT!!!

Last edited by JohnLeavitt (2006-11-28 19:21:50)

Towelly
It's A State Of Mind
+399|6864|Your attic
I just drank a pint of milk, and strangely I feel fine.......

Milk is the winnage, no stupid surveys or tests will prove otherwise.

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