BF2S Forums Tomorrow is Thanksgiven in the states.. What are you giving thanks to?

Kmarion wrote:

Thanksgiving is the celebration of two very different cultures coming together and helping each other. Something this forum could take a lesson from.

Bahiti wrote:

Ok.. I don't post often around here and really enjoy reading alot of the posts.. but this thread has taken a turn that is disturbing to me.  For one..go read your history.  And not just the history given out to the school kids to discuss and learn.  Go and do some research on the Native Americans and what they had to endure.  Go read about the massacres that occured on that first thanksgiving.  Don't step up in here and start spouting your crap when you are misinformed.

IndianScout made a point some time back in this thread

BFROE|IndianScout wrote:

while it's your right to agree with who you want, American history is very white washed and very incorrect..

a perfect example...

think about this the next thanksgiving when you sit down to eat..

In 1637 in Connecticut: Just before dawn, colonial militia men attacked, surrounding the Pequot tribal village completely, setting fire all around, burning alive over 700 men, women and children. The eerie screams could be heard for miles according to neighboring tribes. The few Pequots that managed to escape were immediately shot down, except for a handful that were held captive and sold as slaves into Boston households. The militia men celebrated on their way home from the slaughter, drinking and cheering upon their return, that same day, signed into law with Governor Bradford that: "This day forth shall be a day of celebration and thanksgiving for subduing the Pequots." (Massachusetts document) This is how the "holyday" was founded. The famous and fictitious story of a "Thanksgiving dinner" in 1621 with the Indians and Pilgrims never happened. In fact, rats that jumped ship even before the Pilgrims set foot ashore, infected the Wampanoags with the deadly Smallpox. The Wampanoags had no resistance to this foreign disease and soon started dropping dead everywhere. They sure couldn't help the Pilgrims when they couldn't help themselves, but the Pilgrims managed to repeatedly steal their grain supplies and other food. The Pilgrim-Indian dinner was invented many years after the Pequot slaughter to instill both a false pride in Americans about the founding of their country and to cover up the True founding: Slaughter, steal land, give thanks. Which started with the Pequots and spread across the entire country, leaving millions dead and remaining survivors shoved onto "reservation" prisons. Between the big lie about the 1621 "Dinner" and the Truth concealed for 358 years, it is very difficult to watch this celebration year in and year out. True thanksgiving, in Native understanding, is ever day, it is a way of life. Would anyone tolerate a "Happy Holocaust Day" in Germany, and give it a Hebrew name??? I don't think so... Americans do need to find out the Truth, so we can all have a "Harvest Dinner" on another day, making a new beginning through education, and change this "Thanksgiving Day" to a National day: "A Teaching Wind," an All Native Peoples Day, including remembrance of the Pequot People.

Source: Documents of Holland, 13 Volume Colonial Documentary History, letters and reports from colonial officials to their superiors and the King in England and the private papers of Sir William Johnson, British Indian agent for the New York colony for 30 years.

Researched by William B. Newell, Penobscot Tribe; Former Chairman of the University of Connecticut Anthropology Department.

Being a Native American, Comanche/Apache, some of the comments that have been made have upset me and dishonored me.  And I am not referring to comments about Columbus but rather to the ones that involve eating and the pilaging (i.e. native american pussy) the Original Peoples of this country.  For one I am a woman and that comment offended me.  Two I am Native American and I take offense to it.  So next time take a second or two before you let you fingers start typing some response and think about who you might be offending in your posts.  Generally if I am offended by anything I just go to a different thread.  But when you start disrespecting the Native Americans then I will step up to the plate and take a swing back.

Rant over.. flame away.. I am done.

Bahiti wrote:

Whether he is Native American or not it does not matter.  He made a point and I quoted him.

cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:

Bahiti wrote:

Whether he is Native American or not it does not matter.  He made a point and I quoted him.

You need to know who indianscout is.

Sh1fty2k5 wrote:

Even tho we dont celebrate thanksgiving here in Sweden, I would still like to thank the USA for making the world a better place, preserving freedom, spreading democracy and kicking terrorist ass! Thank you USA!

Sh1fty2k5 wrote:

Even tho we dont celebrate thanksgiving here in Sweden, I would still like to thank the USA for making the world a better place, preserving freedom, spreading democracy and kicking terrorist ass! Thank you USA!

Kmarion wrote:

cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

Thanksgiving is the celebration of two very different cultures coming together and helping each other. Something this forum could take a lesson from.

Yes but later didn't the pilgrims kill the Indians?

True but we are not celebrating that

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