[UTQ]_Ausch88
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Pug wrote:

[UTQ]_Ausch88 wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

Part of the problem is whenever Israel complies and backs off some Jack ball takes advantage and recreates the violence. There is a reason they have blockades and raids.
so what is your solution to this problem? 

Mine is relocate ISRAEL in the middle of the United States.
How does relocated Israel prevent the arabs from killing each other?

The solution is via some very complicated diplomacy or war.  You already know that.
So your solution to prevent the arab from killing each other is to go to war against them??

HAHAHAHAHA

in fact the problem is not the arab killing each other, its the arabs and ISRAELI killing each other.. lets solve this problem first ..  so your solution is to crush the palestinians?  steal more land?   finish the wall?

tell me more... you know my "solution"...  lets hear about yours
Kmar
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CameronPoe wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

[UTQ]_Ausch88 wrote:

so what is your solution to this problem? 

Mine is relocate ISRAEL in the middle of the United States.
Lets move the 7 million Jews instead of the 3 million Palestinians?
I'm not getting involved in this Ausch argument but I will point out one or two things to you and Pug:

3m in the West Bank and Gaza, several more million refugees in Tunisia, Jordan, Egypt, Syria, Lebanon, etc. Some 20% of the population of Israel is also arab.

The existence of Israel is not preventing arab-on-arab violence (Pug oddly seemed to allude to this), as one can plainly see in Gaza, Lebanon, Iraq and the West Bank as we speak.

The war in Iraq was not fought on a 'Saddam linked to terrorism' pretext but public opinion was won by having the spin doctors make subtle suggestions about links between Saddam and Al Qaeda in the media. It was a tool, if you will, in getting the necessary public support to do it.
I think it would be safe to say there are many Jews choosing to relocate also. Katyusha rockets slamming into your neighborhoods does not do much for the value of your home. If you would like to put up raw Jew verse Palestinian numbers worldwide I would be happy to examine them.

I was not arguing the reason we went to war but rather the statement he said that there was no link at all between Saddam and terrorism.
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[UTQ]_Ausch88
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Kmarion wrote:

[UTQ]_Ausch88 wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

Part of the problem is whenever Israel complies and backs off some Jack ball takes advantage and recreates the violence. There is a reason they have blockades and raids.
so what is your solution to this problem? 

Mine is relocate ISRAEL in the middle of the United States.
Lets move the 7 million Jews instead of the 3 million Palestinians?
yep exactly..
Pug
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[UTQ]_Ausch88 wrote:

Pug wrote:

[UTQ]_Ausch88 wrote:


so what is your solution to this problem? 

Mine is relocate ISRAEL in the middle of the United States.
How does relocated Israel prevent the arabs from killing each other?

The solution is via some very complicated diplomacy or war.  You already know that.
So your solution to prevent the arab from killing each other is to go to war against them??

HAHAHAHAHA

in fact the problem is not the arab killing each other, its the arabs and ISRAELI killing each other.. lets solve this problem first ..  so your solution is to crush the palestinians?  steal more land?   finish the wall?

tell me more... you know my "solution"...  lets hear about yours
You misinterpreted "the solution" to mean US' role.  I'm talking about the players over there.  Either Israel, Palestine and all other countries talk or they fight - that are the only options possible.  I did not mean to you to infer that the US does the work.

Here's a really good question for you:
If you are okay with arabs killing arabs, why do you even care who's killing them?  You're arguing it's not okay for the Israelis to kill arabs but it's okay if other arabs kill arabs...you're pretty weird dude.
[UTQ]_Ausch88
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Pug wrote:

[UTQ]_Ausch88 wrote:

Pug wrote:


How does relocated Israel prevent the arabs from killing each other?

The solution is via some very complicated diplomacy or war.  You already know that.
So your solution to prevent the arab from killing each other is to go to war against them??

HAHAHAHAHA

in fact the problem is not the arab killing each other, its the arabs and ISRAELI killing each other.. lets solve this problem first ..  so your solution is to crush the palestinians?  steal more land?   finish the wall?

tell me more... you know my "solution"...  lets hear about yours
You misinterpreted "the solution" to mean US' role.  I'm talking about the players over there.  Either Israel, Palestine and all other countries talk or they fight - that are the only options possible.  I did not mean to you to infer that the US does the work.

Here's a really good question for you:
If you are okay with arabs killing arabs, why do you even care who's killing them?  You're arguing it's not okay for the Israelis to kill arabs but it's okay if other arabs kill arabs...you're pretty weird dude.
Its their choice if they want to kill each other.. they are on their own land, they fight each other like warlords fight each other in Somalia..  but nobody care about Somalia right?

In my opinion, ISRAELIS are invaders.. occupyers (sp?) so they have no right to go and steal the land of a people and kill them if they chose to resist..   If ISRAEL move to the USA or anywhere else in the world and they start to kill the natives , i would be against them too.  You suddenly care about arabs killing each others because ISRAEL is involved in the fighting.  Move ISRAEL and if the arabs still want to kill each other, then so be it.. at least it will be a war between real owner of the land
CameronPoe
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[UTQ]_Ausch88 wrote:

tell me more... you know my "solution"...  lets hear about yours
Be careful with the the term "solution" there Ausch.

PS In latest news: http://edition.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast … index.html

Thanks Ehud but 'Sorry' won't bring the dead back you fucknut.

Last edited by CameronPoe (2007-01-04 16:19:14)

Lisik
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So who gonna tell us were the word Palestine come from?
DonFck
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Lisik wrote:

So who gonna tell us were the word Palestine come from?
Palestine
from L. Palestina (name of a Roman province), from Gk. Palaistine (Herodotus), from Heb. Pelesheth "Philistia, land of the Philistines." Revived as a political territorial name 1920.

What's your point?
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CameronPoe
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Lisik wrote:

So who gonna tell us were the word Palestine come from?
What's the relevance?

Who's gonna tell us where the word Canaan comes from?
Who's gonna tell us where the name 'the Levant' comes from?
Who's gonna show us that the Kingdom of Egypt ruled over the Levant before all other known kingdoms or empires?

What's your point?

Last edited by CameronPoe (2007-01-05 02:30:54)

Lisik
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My point is... million of jews did not forget the real name of Palestine... what is Eretz Israel.
DonFck
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Sidenote:

wikipedia wrote:

This powerful association of tribes made frequent incursions against the Hebrews. There was almost perpetual war between the two peoples.

The Philistines lost their independence to Tiglath-Pileser III of Assyria by 732 BC, and revolts in following years were all crushed. Later, Nebuchadrezzar II of Babylon eventually conquered all of Syria and the Kingdom of Judah, and the former Philistine cities became part of the Neo-Babylonian Empire. All traces of the Philistines as a people or ethnic group disappear. Subsequently the cities were under the control of Persians, Jews (Hasmonean Kingdom), Greeks (Seleucid Empire), Romans, and subsequent empires.
Man, that sh*t goes way back.
I need around tree fiddy.
CameronPoe
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Lisik wrote:

My point is... million of jews did not forget the real name of Palestine... what is Eretz Israel.
You mean Cana'an?

Isn't that the region of the world that most Jewish folk ran away from for about 1900 years?

"Bye, folks - I'm off to Europe now for a millennium or two! I'll be back to create a state later!"

Last edited by CameronPoe (2007-01-05 02:35:45)

Lisik
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I hope you know that Philistines means Invaders...
Lisik
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CameronPoe wrote:

Lisik wrote:

My point is... million of jews did not forget the real name of Palestine... what is Eretz Israel.
You mean Cana'an?

Isn't that the region of the world that most Jewish folk ran away from for about 1900 years?
Jerusalem poe... the fucking Jerusalem.
CameronPoe
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Lisik wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

Lisik wrote:

My point is... million of jews did not forget the real name of Palestine... what is Eretz Israel.
You mean Cana'an?

Isn't that the region of the world that most Jewish folk ran away from for about 1900 years?
Jerusalem poe... the fucking Jerusalem.
What about it?
Lisik
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We left Jerusalem and we back to Jerusalem.
DonFck
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Lisik wrote:

I hope you know that Philistines means Invaders...
From space?

Dude, I hope you know that you represent the current invading force.
I need around tree fiddy.
Lisik
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DonFck wrote:

Lisik wrote:

I hope you know that Philistines means Invaders...
From space?

Dude, I hope you know that you represent the current invading force.
From sea!

Dude, so? Palestinians represent the current islamic terrorism force... and?

Last edited by Lisik (2007-01-05 02:52:04)

CameronPoe
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Lisik wrote:

We left Jerusalem and we back to Jerusalem.
Like I said: "Bye, folks - We're off to Europe now for a millennium or two! We'll be back to create a state later! Sorry for running off like this but those big bad scary Romans make us wet ourselves."

Last edited by CameronPoe (2007-01-05 03:39:45)

DonFck
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CameronPoe wrote:

Lisik wrote:

We left Jerusalem and we back to Jerusalem.
Like I said: "Bye, folks - We're off to Europe now for a millennium or two! We'll be back to create a state later! Sorry for running off like this but thoss big bad scary Romans make us wet ourselves."
"Make sure you water the plants and keep everything tidy. Make yourselves at home, but be sure to get the f**k out when we return!"
I need around tree fiddy.
Lisik
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CameronPoe wrote:

Lisik wrote:

We left Jerusalem and we back to Jerusalem.
Like I said: "Bye, folks - We're off to Europe now for a millennium or two! We'll be back to create a state later! Sorry for running off like this but thoss big bad scary Romans make us wet ourselves."
We were staying in Europe, but in some reason europeans were fucking faggots with us, so we decide to go back...
DonFck
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Lisik wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

Lisik wrote:

We left Jerusalem and we back to Jerusalem.
Like I said: "Bye, folks - We're off to Europe now for a millennium or two! We'll be back to create a state later! Sorry for running off like this but thoss big bad scary Romans make us wet ourselves."
We were staying in Europe, but in some reason europeans were fucking faggots with us, so we decide to go back...
The "we" thing is overall too much of a generalization. One of my best friends is jewish, and his opinion on the legitimacy of the existence of Israel doesn't differ much from mine or the other "communist-liberal-dogs".

And referring to Palestinians as terrorists again is a generalization. As far as I know, Israel is also responsible for many deeds considered "terrorist" (had they not been performed by Israel, that is). Besides, not all Palestinians are members of superviolent "Praise-Allah-Jihad-Is-Here"-terrorist organizations. As far as I know, these groups represent the minority, and are considered rebels in the eyes of governments, their own included.

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I need around tree fiddy.
sergeriver
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Lisik wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

Lisik wrote:

We left Jerusalem and we back to Jerusalem.
Like I said: "Bye, folks - We're off to Europe now for a millennium or two! We'll be back to create a state later! Sorry for running off like this but thoss big bad scary Romans make us wet ourselves."
We were staying in Europe, but in some reason europeans were fucking faggots with us, so we decide to go back...
But you forgot about the Palestinians and you were the fucking fags to them.  You did the same and worse to Palestinians.  You call terrorists the Palestinians for using homemade rockets against top notch weapons, and you forget that Israel is killing way more people with those weapons.  In the terms Israel is putting things today the only "solution" for Palestinians is fighting them back.  If Israel would consider to be a less barbaric and terrorist state, then the "terrorism" would cease.  But you are doing the same thing that Hitler did to Jews, you are trying to exterminate a group of people, you only are missing the concentration camps.  But you can say that Gaza and West Bank are pretty much like those.  And don't tell me BS, because I'm a Jew too.  Nazism = Zionism.

Last edited by sergeriver (2007-01-05 03:40:42)

Lisik
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whatever

btw Zionism died in 1948 when Israel become to be a sovereign country.

Last edited by Lisik (2007-01-05 04:57:57)

CameronPoe
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Lisik wrote:

whatever

btw Zionism died in 1948 when Israel become to be a sovereign country.
Oh yeah that's right! Zionism ended in 1948. Nobody ventured into the occupied territories after 1948 and created settlements and built roads and other facilities. Ariel, the Hebron enclave and Ma'ale Adumim are all just figments of my imagination. They must have been a mirage or something.

Last edited by CameronPoe (2007-01-05 05:32:32)

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