Yes, but at some points it could be a bit awkward, as at school the teacher could ask something about their mother, but only to be responded with 'I have 2 dads'. WTF would you do if you were the teacher?
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You weren't "giving it a rest" either. Quite hypocritical, what you say. So, in one of the first times in history, I agree with lowing: you give it a rest. Since you have nothing to say, just admit you're wrong, why don't you?davidonbf2 wrote:
ok, how about this, GIVE IT A REST!!!!!!!if your gay and its your way hey it ok,,, OK?lowing wrote:
Give it a rest? You endorse the curtailing of someone rights for no other reason than your personal dislike of them. A stance you obviously can not defend when presented with my argument. If you could, you would come up with something a little more substantial than "give it a rest", and a stupid little jingle.davidonbf2 wrote:
give it a rest, if gay is you're way that's ok
-konfusion
I never said it wouldn't be awkward in life, my argument is, we have no choice in our sexual orientation. If we DO have a choice, when did you make yours?KuSTaV wrote:
Yes, but at some points it could be a bit awkward, as at school the teacher could ask something about their mother, but only to be responded with 'I have 2 dads'. WTF would you do if you were the teacher?
holy shit!!!. PM or something to warn me that you agreed with me in a thread. To come here and read that we agreed on something without a heads up could throw me into shock or something.konfusion wrote:
You weren't "giving it a rest" either. Quite hypocritical, what you say. So, in one of the first times in history, I agree with lowing: you give it a rest. Since you have nothing to say, just admit you're wrong, why don't you?davidonbf2 wrote:
ok, how about this, GIVE IT A REST!!!!!!!if your gay and its your way hey it ok,,, OK?lowing wrote:
Give it a rest? You endorse the curtailing of someone rights for no other reason than your personal dislike of them. A stance you obviously can not defend when presented with my argument. If you could, you would come up with something a little more substantial than "give it a rest", and a stupid little jingle.
-konfusion
Get back under your bridge lowinglowing wrote:
I hope you are not another one who suggests that being gay or not is a choice that we all have to make at some point in our lives. A shitty up bringing does not make you gay.
Show me one example where someone has admitted that because they were neglected as a kid, they DECIDED to suck a dick to compensate.
At least put up a fight for your argument.Pubic wrote:
Get back under your bridge lowinglowing wrote:
I hope you are not another one who suggests that being gay or not is a choice that we all have to make at some point in our lives. A shitty up bringing does not make you gay.
Show me one example where someone has admitted that because they were neglected as a kid, they DECIDED to suck a dick to compensate.
first off I had plenty said, second, you need to get a life and third, you didnt have nothing to say seeing that your comment said nothing about the topic, and finaly lowing has made a 1,000 comments in this thread defending gay issues, like I said if he's gay and thats his way it's ok.so next time maybe you should try watching what you say because you didn't make sense and looked retarded.konfusion wrote:
You weren't "giving it a rest" either. Quite hypocritical, what you say. So, in one of the first times in history, I agree with lowing: you give it a rest. Since you have nothing to say, just admit you're wrong, why don't you?davidonbf2 wrote:
ok, how about this, GIVE IT A REST!!!!!!!if your gay and its your way hey it ok,,, OK?lowing wrote:
Give it a rest? You endorse the curtailing of someone rights for no other reason than your personal dislike of them. A stance you obviously can not defend when presented with my argument. If you could, you would come up with something a little more substantial than "give it a rest", and a stupid little jingle.
-konfusion
eh?davidonbf2 wrote:
first off I had plenty said, second, you need to get a life and third, you didnt have nothing to say seeing that your comment said nothing about the topic, and finaly lowing has made a 1,000 comments in this thread defending gay issues, like I said if he's gay and thats his way it's ok.so next time maybe you should try watching what you say because you didn't make sense and looked retarded.konfusion wrote:
You weren't "giving it a rest" either. Quite hypocritical, what you say. So, in one of the first times in history, I agree with lowing: you give it a rest. Since you have nothing to say, just admit you're wrong, why don't you?davidonbf2 wrote:
ok, how about this, GIVE IT A REST!!!!!!!if your gay and its your way hey it ok,,, OK?
-konfusion
Are you trying to say that I'm not supposed to express my opinion?
Lemme get some quotes out:
davidonbf2 wrote:
life to short to get pissed off on things that have no matter to you
Now who's making references to whom?davidonbf2 wrote:
in the future don't make any reference to me, and you're the one who sounds like he or she is going through growing pains.
Really now, just because I can present an argument, does not mean I don't have a life. You don't know who I am in real life, so you can hardly comment on that, unless you're kind of a stalker or something.
And now to answer why I said that:
I agree with lowing, and was reinforcing his argument. It seems it made perfect sense to him.
-konfusion
ok, this is to lowing and confusion seeing that both these guys are not that smart or bright: I wasn't trying to be funny or trying to say how kids growing up with gay parents making a gender or sexual choice, I was saying that if you have a little boy who's parents are two grown gay men raising him he would be expose to there affections towards each other and there sexual premise, like kissing ( or for god sake walk in on them having sex ), a kid who is young and don't know better would think that this is NORMAL and would incline thinking that it is OK to like another boy this is not about his sexual choice at this age, and yes I think gay parenting is wrong, that's my opinion so if you disagree or don't like it TUFF.
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Should Homosexuals be allowed to adopt kids??
they cant reprodce with a homosexual union...you knew that...
they cant reprodce with a homosexual union...you knew that...
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Adapt them from what? A dog?
lol I think he meant AdoptBubbalo wrote:
Adapt them from what? A dog?
If the kid is strong, happy and healthy, who cares what their parents sexual preferences are.
What we should be asking is whether people who have discretionary morals, little or no family values, weak parenting ethics and undeveloped disciplinary capabilities should be allowed to have kids.
Too often we see kids behaviour that make us ask how two adults should be allowed to have kids.
Mental illness and the like aside, mind you I think we use medicine as an excuse far too often, there's allot of kids out there with parents that have not provided them with the environment for the children to have a fair go.
Two adults should provide a child with a positive and caring parent-child relationship, a stimulating home environment, and consistent disciplinary techniques. It's irrelevant whether the parents are man/woman, man/man or woman/woman.
What we should be asking is whether people who have discretionary morals, little or no family values, weak parenting ethics and undeveloped disciplinary capabilities should be allowed to have kids.
Too often we see kids behaviour that make us ask how two adults should be allowed to have kids.
Mental illness and the like aside, mind you I think we use medicine as an excuse far too often, there's allot of kids out there with parents that have not provided them with the environment for the children to have a fair go.
Two adults should provide a child with a positive and caring parent-child relationship, a stimulating home environment, and consistent disciplinary techniques. It's irrelevant whether the parents are man/woman, man/man or woman/woman.
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I never said you were not allowed your opinion, I only want you to defend it, which you did here. You made a good point with this one, but an 8 year old watching a heterosexual couple having sex does not excuse him going to school an attempting the same thing. I feel a gay couple with kids should/could/would explain the birds and the bees to a kid just like any other couple. the scenerio you discribed still would not turn a person gay. Only reinforce him, if he WAS gay.davidonbf2 wrote:
ok, this is to lowing and confusion seeing that both these guys are not that smart or bright: I wasn't trying to be funny or trying to say how kids growing up with gay parents making a gender or sexual choice, I was saying that if you have a little boy who's parents are two grown gay men raising him he would be expose to there affections towards each other and there sexual premise, like kissing ( or for god sake walk in on them having sex ), a kid who is young and don't know better would think that this is NORMAL and would incline thinking that it is OK to like another boy this is not about his sexual choice at this age, and yes I think gay parenting is wrong, that's my opinion so if you disagree or don't like it TUFF.
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you been criticizing anyone against gay parents, you must be gay, and like arguing with a woman, it is pointless, my opinion is my own not yours to judge so like i said move on, let it go, you're really coming off like a gay liberallowing wrote:
I never said you were not allowed your opinion, I only want you to defend it, which you did here. You made a good point with this one, but an 8 year old watching a heterosexual couple having sex does not excuse him going to school an attempting the same thing. I feel a gay couple with kids should/could/would explain the birds and the bees to a kid just like any other couple. the scenerio you discribed still would not turn a person gay. Only reinforce him, if he WAS gay.davidonbf2 wrote:
ok, this is to lowing and confusion seeing that both these guys are not that smart or bright: I wasn't trying to be funny or trying to say how kids growing up with gay parents making a gender or sexual choice, I was saying that if you have a little boy who's parents are two grown gay men raising him he would be expose to there affections towards each other and there sexual premise, like kissing ( or for god sake walk in on them having sex ), a kid who is young and don't know better would think that this is NORMAL and would incline thinking that it is OK to like another boy this is not about his sexual choice at this age, and yes I think gay parenting is wrong, that's my opinion so if you disagree or don't like it TUFF.
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Oh my god!
Not only do I agree with lowing on something, but he's being reasonable in his statements, and the other guy isn't! It's like Bizarro World!
Not only do I agree with lowing on something, but he's being reasonable in his statements, and the other guy isn't! It's like Bizarro World!
actually, I haven't criticized anyone. Unless arguing an opposing POV is a criticism. I am not gay I am married with 2 sons. My only beef with your opinion is your endorsement of stripping away a persons rights. A gay couple does not affect my pursuit of life liberty and happiness so I have reason to interfere with them.davidonbf2 wrote:
you been criticizing anyone against gay parents, you must be gay, and like arguing with a woman, it is pointless, my opinion is my own not yours to judge so like i said move on, let it go, you're really coming off like a gay liberallowing wrote:
I never said you were not allowed your opinion, I only want you to defend it, which you did here. You made a good point with this one, but an 8 year old watching a heterosexual couple having sex does not excuse him going to school an attempting the same thing. I feel a gay couple with kids should/could/would explain the birds and the bees to a kid just like any other couple. the scenario you described still would not turn a person gay. Only reinforce him, if he WAS gay.davidonbf2 wrote:
ok, this is to lowing and confusion seeing that both these guys are not that smart or bright: I wasn't trying to be funny or trying to say how kids growing up with gay parents making a gender or sexual choice, I was saying that if you have a little boy who's parents are two grown gay men raising him he would be expose to there affections towards each other and there sexual premise, like kissing ( or for god sake walk in on them having sex ), a kid who is young and don't know better would think that this is NORMAL and would incline thinking that it is OK to like another boy this is not about his sexual choice at this age, and yes I think gay parenting is wrong, that's my opinion so if you disagree or don't like it TUFF.
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I think I am gunna cry now.Bubbalo wrote:
Oh my god!
Not only do I agree with lowing on something, but he's being reasonable in his statements, and the other guy isn't! It's like Bizarro World!
What`s next ? .... you guys gonna move in together ?lowing wrote:
I think I am gunna cry now.Bubbalo wrote:
Oh my god!
Not only do I agree with lowing on something, but he's being reasonable in his statements, and the other guy isn't! It's like Bizarro World!
Wait behind the line ..............................................................
teddy-jimmy aksed a question, I gave my opinion, I dont recall asking for YOUR opinion, I'm not here to have a flame war with you about this, so like I said for the 12th time, move on, quit trying to push you're liberal ways on me or anyone esle on this matter case closed.......if you want to continue arguing about this why don't you go to one of those websites who do care about gay parents rights and let this one die already, for god sake let it go!lowing wrote:
actually, I haven't criticized anyone. Unless arguing an opposing POV is a criticism. I am not gay I am married with 2 sons. My only beef with your opinion is your endorsement of stripping away a persons rights. A gay couple does not affect my pursuit of life liberty and happiness so I have reason to interfere with them.davidonbf2 wrote:
you been criticizing anyone against gay parents, you must be gay, and like arguing with a woman, it is pointless, my opinion is my own not yours to judge so like i said move on, let it go, you're really coming off like a gay liberallowing wrote:
I never said you were not allowed your opinion, I only want you to defend it, which you did here. You made a good point with this one, but an 8 year old watching a heterosexual couple having sex does not excuse him going to school an attempting the same thing. I feel a gay couple with kids should/could/would explain the birds and the bees to a kid just like any other couple. the scenario you described still would not turn a person gay. Only reinforce him, if he WAS gay.
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No...NEVER.
That guy just called me a liberal!!!davidonbf2 wrote:
teddy-jimmy aksed a question, I gave my opinion, I dont recall asking for YOUR opinion, I'm not here to have a flame war with you about this, so like I said for the 12th time, move on, quit trying to push you're liberal ways on me or anyone esle on this matter case closed.......if you want to continue arguing about this why don't you go to one of those websites who do care about gay parents rights and let this one die already, for god sake let it go!lowing wrote:
actually, I haven't criticized anyone. Unless arguing an opposing POV is a criticism. I am not gay I am married with 2 sons. My only beef with your opinion is your endorsement of stripping away a persons rights. A gay couple does not affect my pursuit of life liberty and happiness so I have reason to interfere with them.davidonbf2 wrote:
you been criticizing anyone against gay parents, you must be gay, and like arguing with a woman, it is pointless, my opinion is my own not yours to judge so like i said move on, let it go, you're really coming off like a gay liberal
let it go/move onlowing wrote:
That guy just called me a liberal!!!davidonbf2 wrote:
teddy-jimmy aksed a question, I gave my opinion, I dont recall asking for YOUR opinion, I'm not here to have a flame war with you about this, so like I said for the 12th time, move on, quit trying to push you're liberal ways on me or anyone esle on this matter case closed.......if you want to continue arguing about this why don't you go to one of those websites who do care about gay parents rights and let this one die already, for god sake let it go!lowing wrote:
actually, I haven't criticized anyone. Unless arguing an opposing POV is a criticism. I am not gay I am married with 2 sons. My only beef with your opinion is your endorsement of stripping away a persons rights. A gay couple does not affect my pursuit of life liberty and happiness so I have reason to interfere with them.
any chance ya may wanna leave a debate forum if you are not interested in, well, debating. Just posting YOUR opinion and not expecting anyone to challenge it ain't very realistic in here.davidonbf2 wrote:
let it go/move onlowing wrote:
That guy just called me a liberal!!!davidonbf2 wrote:
teddy-jimmy aksed a question, I gave my opinion, I dont recall asking for YOUR opinion, I'm not here to have a flame war with you about this, so like I said for the 12th time, move on, quit trying to push you're liberal ways on me or anyone esle on this matter case closed.......if you want to continue arguing about this why don't you go to one of those websites who do care about gay parents rights and let this one die already, for god sake let it go!
Especially with as fucked up an opinion, as yours. Letting go and moving on
let it go/move onlowing wrote:
any chance ya may wanna leave a debate forum if you are not interested in, well, debating. Just posting YOUR opinion and not expecting anyone to challenge it ain't very realistic in here.davidonbf2 wrote:
let it go/move onlowing wrote:
That guy just called me a liberal!!!
Especially with as fucked up an opinion, as yours. Letting go and moving on