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Lisik wrote:

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At the risk of sounding harsh - why did the Jews leave it until it was too late to put up some resistance (Warsaw Ghetto Uprising)?

Lisik wrote:

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I thought "Dead Jew" would come next ?

Argentina Dirty War 1976 - 1983
The Dirty War, from 1976-1983, was a seven-year campaign by the Argentine government against suspected dissidents and subversives. Many people, both opponents of the government as well as innocent people, were "disappeared" in the middle of the night. They were taken to secret government detention centers where they were tortured and eventually killed. These people are known as "los desaparecidos" or "the disappeared."

After the death of the controversial President Juan Peron in 1974, his wife and vice president, Isabel Peron, assumed power. However, she was not very strong politically and a military junta led a coup against her and removed her from office. This military junta maintained its grip on power by cracking down on anybody whom they believed was challenging their authority. Casualty counts from this war range from 10,000 to 30,000 people.

Although the military dictatorship carried out its war against suspected domestic subversives throughout its entire existence, it was ironically a foreign foe which brought the regime to an end. In the early 1980s, it became clear to both the world and the Argentine people that the government was behind the tens of thousands of kidnappings. The junta, facing increasing opposition over its human rights record, as well as mounting allegations of corruption, sought to allay domestic criticism by launching a successful campaign to regain Las Islas Malvinas (the Falkland Islands).

The Falkland Islands have been a source of contention between England, which administers them, and Argentina, which claims them, since 1820. The junta had thought that it could reclaim these islands relatively easily, that England wouldn't mind their loss, and that the government would regain its popularity and control over its people. However, the government was wrong in its anticipations when 72 days after the invasion of the Islands, the British military won the war, having captured 9,800 Argentine POWs.

This unexpected loss was the final blow for the military regime, and in 1982, it restored basic civil liberties and retracted its ban on political parties. The Dirty War ended when Raul Alfonsin's civilian government took control of the country on December 10, 1983.

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I'm so sick of hearing you bad mouthing other people's governments.  So shut up and look at your own first.  YOUR GOVERNMENT KILLED 10,000 TO 30,000 OF IT'S OWN PEOPLE!  Talk about shitty politics.

Bertster7 wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

Those people are protecting their homes, like a tree hugger.

With the lives of their children? Cmon, you have to prioritize. A childs life is worth more than a material possession in my opinion.

I agree. You can't be using human shields against the Israelis. Maybe against a less brutal aggressor than Israel they would work, but we've already seen that Israelis don't give a shit about shooting women and children. Putting children in the line of fire is madness.

Apparently Israel is concerned about civilians unlike other groups.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15770600/

Kmarion wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

With the lives of their children? Cmon, you have to prioritize. A childs life is worth more than a material possession in my opinion.

It's all symbolic.  They are saying "this is our land and we'll protect it with our lives".  IMO a material possession isn't worth a child's life.  But, those people were screwed for a long time, and their beliefs are different than yours or mine.

I understand this. I would even go so far to say I understand someone placing their own body in the path of destruction to display the commitment they have towards their future. Where I get lost is (and I'm pretty sure you agree) is when they encourage children to do the same. It appears that they are more concerned in being able to show the world that the Israeli's disregard the life of a child. It is clearly evident that the parents show little respect for the lives of their children as well. It just does little to help gain support when they show lack of desire to protect their own children.

What children, those children become adults when they are born.

sergeriver wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

It's all symbolic.  They are saying "this is our land and we'll protect it with our lives".  IMO a material possession isn't worth a child's life.  But, those people were screwed for a long time, and their beliefs are different than yours or mine.

I understand this. I would even go so far to say I understand someone placing their own body in the path of destruction to display the commitment they have towards their future. Where I get lost is (and I'm pretty sure you agree) is when they encourage children to do the same. It appears that they are more concerned in being able to show the world that the Israeli's disregard the life of a child. It is clearly evident that the parents show little respect for the lives of their children as well. It just does little to help gain support when they show lack of desire to protect their own children.

What children, those children become adults when they are born.

Then kill them all.

Miller wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

rawls2 wrote:

Apparently Israel is concerned about civilians unlike other groups.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15770600/

Looking at Israels civilian body count, I think not.

They care more than those terrorists willing to kill 3000 people by flying planes into them. But notice, it wasn't a military target, it was civilians!

For those to stupid to remember I am refering to 9/11.

But they were not a nation, they were an extremist group. And one reason they did it is because of the US's backing of Israel, if the US had remained neutral 9/11 may not have happened.

silo1180 wrote:

Argentina Dirty War 1976 - 1983
The Dirty War, from 1976-1983, was a seven-year campaign by the Argentine government against suspected dissidents and subversives. Many people, both opponents of the government as well as innocent people, were "disappeared" in the middle of the night. They were taken to secret government detention centers where they were tortured and eventually killed. These people are known as "los desaparecidos" or "the disappeared."

After the death of the controversial President Juan Peron in 1974, his wife and vice president, Isabel Peron, assumed power. However, she was not very strong politically and a military junta led a coup against her and removed her from office. This military junta maintained its grip on power by cracking down on anybody whom they believed was challenging their authority. Casualty counts from this war range from 10,000 to 30,000 people.

Although the military dictatorship carried out its war against suspected domestic subversives throughout its entire existence, it was ironically a foreign foe which brought the regime to an end. In the early 1980s, it became clear to both the world and the Argentine people that the government was behind the tens of thousands of kidnappings. The junta, facing increasing opposition over its human rights record, as well as mounting allegations of corruption, sought to allay domestic criticism by launching a successful campaign to regain Las Islas Malvinas (the Falkland Islands).

The Falkland Islands have been a source of contention between England, which administers them, and Argentina, which claims them, since 1820. The junta had thought that it could reclaim these islands relatively easily, that England wouldn't mind their loss, and that the government would regain its popularity and control over its people. However, the government was wrong in its anticipations when 72 days after the invasion of the Islands, the British military won the war, having captured 9,800 Argentine POWs.

This unexpected loss was the final blow for the military regime, and in 1982, it restored basic civil liberties and retracted its ban on political parties. The Dirty War ended when Raul Alfonsin's civilian government took control of the country on December 10, 1983.

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I'm so sick of hearing you bad mouthing other people's governments.  So shut up and look at your own first.  YOUR GOVERNMENT KILLED 10,000 TO 30,000 OF IT'S OWN PEOPLE!  Talk about shitty politics.

You are so lame, coz some military dictatorship took the country when I was a baby, I can't talk about what I think is wrong?  It wasn't my government.  I didnt' vote it.  Do you wanna talk about that?  I have no problem.  That was a government back 30 years.  So, I guess the Spanish can't talk because Franco was 30 years there.  You are really pathetic.  If you are sick of hearing me go away.

Btw, thanks for telling me all the shit I already knew.  Do you wanna talk about what your country did wrong?  I won't for respect to the other Americans in this forum.

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rawls2 wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

rawls2 wrote:

Apparently Israel is concerned about civilians unlike other groups.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15770600/

Looking at Israels civilian body count, I think not.

How can you blame Israel for protecting it's citizens. if Israel left Gaza alone the Israeli death toll would be higher.

They have already officially left Gaza.

mafia996630 wrote:

rawls2 wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

Looking at Israels civilian body count, I think not.

How can you blame Israel for protecting it's citizens. if Israel left Gaza alone the Israeli death toll would be higher.

They have already officially left Gaza.

No government in the world officially recognizes that Israel has left the Gaza strip.  That includes the UN.  Israel controls the roads, ports, airspace, and economy.  Hardly a gesture of goodwill.

sergeriver wrote:

silo1180 wrote:

Argentina Dirty War 1976 - 1983
The Dirty War, from 1976-1983, was a seven-year campaign by the Argentine government against suspected dissidents and subversives. Many people, both opponents of the government as well as innocent people, were "disappeared" in the middle of the night. They were taken to secret government detention centers where they were tortured and eventually killed. These people are known as "los desaparecidos" or "the disappeared."

After the death of the controversial President Juan Peron in 1974, his wife and vice president, Isabel Peron, assumed power. However, she was not very strong politically and a military junta led a coup against her and removed her from office. This military junta maintained its grip on power by cracking down on anybody whom they believed was challenging their authority. Casualty counts from this war range from 10,000 to 30,000 people.

Although the military dictatorship carried out its war against suspected domestic subversives throughout its entire existence, it was ironically a foreign foe which brought the regime to an end. In the early 1980s, it became clear to both the world and the Argentine people that the government was behind the tens of thousands of kidnappings. The junta, facing increasing opposition over its human rights record, as well as mounting allegations of corruption, sought to allay domestic criticism by launching a successful campaign to regain Las Islas Malvinas (the Falkland Islands).

The Falkland Islands have been a source of contention between England, which administers them, and Argentina, which claims them, since 1820. The junta had thought that it could reclaim these islands relatively easily, that England wouldn't mind their loss, and that the government would regain its popularity and control over its people. However, the government was wrong in its anticipations when 72 days after the invasion of the Islands, the British military won the war, having captured 9,800 Argentine POWs.

This unexpected loss was the final blow for the military regime, and in 1982, it restored basic civil liberties and retracted its ban on political parties. The Dirty War ended when Raul Alfonsin's civilian government took control of the country on December 10, 1983.

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I'm so sick of hearing you bad mouthing other people's governments.  So shut up and look at your own first.  YOUR GOVERNMENT KILLED 10,000 TO 30,000 OF IT'S OWN PEOPLE!  Talk about shitty politics.

You are so lame, coz some military dictatorship took the country when I was a baby, I can't talk about what I think is wrong?  It wasn't my government.  I didnt' vote it.  Do you wanna talk about that?  I have no problem.  That was a government back 30 years.  So, I guess the Spanish can't talk because Franco was 30 years there.  You are really pathetic.  If you are sick of hearing me go away.

Btw, thanks for telling me all the shit I already knew.  Do you wanna talk about what your country did wrong?  I won't for respect to the other Americans in this forum.

Go ahead... tell me what my government has done wrong!  I know it has faults.  You're not going to blow me away with anything.

You sit here and cry about the "poor, poor Middle East", but when anyone does anything about it they are suddenly the bad guy or a bully.  Figure out what the heck you want and stick with it, no matter what the cost/outcome may be.  What has your government/country done to try to help stop the bloodshed?

silo1180 wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

silo1180 wrote:

Argentina Dirty War 1976 - 1983
The Dirty War, from 1976-1983, was a seven-year campaign by the Argentine government against suspected dissidents and subversives. Many people, both opponents of the government as well as innocent people, were "disappeared" in the middle of the night. They were taken to secret government detention centers where they were tortured and eventually killed. These people are known as "los desaparecidos" or "the disappeared."

After the death of the controversial President Juan Peron in 1974, his wife and vice president, Isabel Peron, assumed power. However, she was not very strong politically and a military junta led a coup against her and removed her from office. This military junta maintained its grip on power by cracking down on anybody whom they believed was challenging their authority. Casualty counts from this war range from 10,000 to 30,000 people.

Although the military dictatorship carried out its war against suspected domestic subversives throughout its entire existence, it was ironically a foreign foe which brought the regime to an end. In the early 1980s, it became clear to both the world and the Argentine people that the government was behind the tens of thousands of kidnappings. The junta, facing increasing opposition over its human rights record, as well as mounting allegations of corruption, sought to allay domestic criticism by launching a successful campaign to regain Las Islas Malvinas (the Falkland Islands).

The Falkland Islands have been a source of contention between England, which administers them, and Argentina, which claims them, since 1820. The junta had thought that it could reclaim these islands relatively easily, that England wouldn't mind their loss, and that the government would regain its popularity and control over its people. However, the government was wrong in its anticipations when 72 days after the invasion of the Islands, the British military won the war, having captured 9,800 Argentine POWs.

This unexpected loss was the final blow for the military regime, and in 1982, it restored basic civil liberties and retracted its ban on political parties. The Dirty War ended when Raul Alfonsin's civilian government took control of the country on December 10, 1983.

======================================================================

I'm so sick of hearing you bad mouthing other people's governments.  So shut up and look at your own first.  YOUR GOVERNMENT KILLED 10,000 TO 30,000 OF IT'S OWN PEOPLE!  Talk about shitty politics.

You are so lame, coz some military dictatorship took the country when I was a baby, I can't talk about what I think is wrong?  It wasn't my government.  I didnt' vote it.  Do you wanna talk about that?  I have no problem.  That was a government back 30 years.  So, I guess the Spanish can't talk because Franco was 30 years there.  You are really pathetic.  If you are sick of hearing me go away.

Btw, thanks for telling me all the shit I already knew.  Do you wanna talk about what your country did wrong?  I won't for respect to the other Americans in this forum.

Go ahead... tell me what my government has done wrong!  I know it has faults.  You're not going to blow me away with anything.

You sit here and cry about the "poor, poor Middle East", but when anyone does anything about it they are suddenly the bad guy or a bully.  Figure out what the heck you want and stick with it, no matter what the cost/outcome may be.  What has your government/country done to try to help stop the bloodshed?

Stay at school a bit more, you will need it for sure.  My government isn't killing Palestinians, and if it were I would be the first to criticize it.  If you want to defend Israel go ahead, but use some background to support your poor statements, instead of accusing me for something that happened in my country 30 years ago.  I was goo goo and pooping myself.  So, according to your lame argument, Argentinians can't talk because we had 7 years of a military dictatorship 30 years ago?  The Spanish can't talk because of Franco?  The Basques can't talk because of ETA?  The Irish can't talk because of the IRA?  The Russians can't talk because of Stalin?  The Germans can't talk because of Hitler?  I don't find this very fair.  So, I will talk all the shit I want.  Here, in school kids are learning about that 7 years, we don't deny it, we don't forget in order to avoid it in the future, so tell everyone what happened here, because it was terrible.  Although you don't know a shit of what happened here, you just did your lame google to find some crap.

I can google myself.

With the support of United States Secretary of State Henry Kissinger, the junta continued the Dirty War, the ongoing disappearance, torture, and murder of thousands of suspected political dissidents and leftists

Last edited by sergeriver (2006-11-20 16:43:41)