CoronadoSEAL
pics or it didn't happen
+207|6791|USA
If it were up to you to regulate the way we reckon time, both daily and longer intervals, outline the scheme you would implement.  (No fair using Star Date.)  In other words, make up a system for keeping time--time of day, and day of whatever longer unit of time you want.  Defend your rationale. 

Keep in mind that there are two “givens”--the period of rotation and revolution of the Earth, so that your system should be compatible with these.  Do NOT use our current system or any simple multiples.  Make up a NEW system, but one that really works--ie that you could use to pay your rent, and to time a race.
deeznutz1245
Connecticut: our chimps are stealin yo' faces.
+483|6766|Connecticut
+1 for you. That really makes me think. Gimmee some time on that one. Do you have one?
Malloy must go
CoronadoSEAL
pics or it didn't happen
+207|6791|USA
no- thought about it for a while too...
..teddy..jimmy
Member
+1,393|6922
A sun dial with a watch attatched.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6678|North Carolina
This is an interesting thought.  The Gregorian calendar that we use today is derived from the Julian one.  It seems to work pretty well, despite that leap day thing.

As for minutes, seconds, and hours, they work pretty well too.

The only thing I'd change is Daylight Savings Time.  I'd eliminate it.  I'd also amend some of the lines that separate time zones.  Indiana is a mess....
jonsimon
Member
+224|6768
A day is a rotation and a year is a revolution, other than that, everything is arbitrary, so I can't think of any way to really make anything more efficient, outside of creating metric time or something. 100 seconds in a minute, 100 minutes in an hour, 100 hours in a day, or some such.
mcgid1
Meh...
+129|6989|Austin, TX/San Antonio, TX

Turquoise wrote:

This is an interesting thought.  The Gregorian calendar that we use today is derived from the Julian one.  It seems to work pretty well, despite that leap day thing.

As for minutes, seconds, and hours, they work pretty well too.

The only thing I'd change is Daylight Savings Time.  I'd eliminate it.  I'd also amend some of the lines that separate time zones.  Indiana is a mess....
The year is going to be 365 days no matter what.  The leap day is to account for the extra quarter day that is left over at the end of each year, hence we have one once every four years.

jonsimon wrote:

A day is a rotation and a year is a revolution, other than that, everything is arbitrary, so I can't think of any way to really make anything more efficient, outside of creating metric time or something. 100 seconds in a minute, 100 minutes in an hour, 100 hours in a day, or some such.
Actually the seconds, minutes and hours aren't arbitrary.  The second is based on a certain cycle that happens in some atom (don't know which one and the science behind it is a little to complex for me).  The minutes and hours are more based on old time ship navigation (I think it was 10 degrees longitude equals a shift of one hour).  They seem arbitrary to us today because we don't have any real modern applications for the system any more other than as a way to tell time.
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6802|Global Command
I really admire a function sundial.
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,054|7045|PNW

CoronadoSEAL wrote:

If it were up to you to regulate the way we reckon time, both daily and longer intervals, outline the scheme you would implement.  (No fair using Star Date.)  In other words, make up a system for keeping time--time of day, and day of whatever longer unit of time you want.  Defend your rationale. 

Keep in mind that there are two “givens”--the period of rotation and revolution of the Earth, so that your system should be compatible with these.  Do NOT use our current system or any simple multiples.  Make up a NEW system, but one that really works--ie that you could use to pay your rent, and to time a race.
The Gregorian system isn't just an 'Earth' thing. It conforms to human patterns quite efficiently. Once we become more of a space-faring species, a stardate-like system could actually come in handy, but I don't think we'll ever completely get rid of what's being used now. It'd be harder than junking all the Imperial measurements.
TrollmeaT
Aspiring Objectivist
+492|6945|Colorado
Time doesn't really exist, we made it up because we cannot grasp the true concept yet, the super collider will prove this what time really is, I personally believe that time is just another particle that can be manipulated.
PspRpg-7
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+961|6971

Damn your intelligence.
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,054|7045|PNW

TrollmeaT wrote:

Time doesn't really exist, we made it up because we cannot grasp the true concept yet, the super collider will prove this what time really is, I personally believe that time is just another particle that can be manipulated.
You mean to say that time doesn't really exist as it's believed to exist, right?
dubbs
Member
+105|6905|Lexington, KY

TrollmeaT wrote:

Time doesn't really exist, we made it up because we cannot grasp the true concept yet, the super collider will prove this what time really is, I personally believe that time is just another particle that can be manipulated.
Time does exist.  It is the measurement for the movement of Earth through space.  It also measures the distance that one travels through the Earth's rotation. 

After thinking about it, that means that no one could go back into time, because to do so, you would have to harness enough power to rotate the Earth in the reverse direction.  In order to do this, you would have to stop the Earth, and we do not have the technology to create enough energy to do that.  Following the Newton's law (I think it was the third one) that an object in motion will stay in motion until acted on by an equal force.

mcgid1 wrote:

(I think it was 10 degrees longitude equals a shift of one hour)
It is actually 15 degrees. 

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_Zones
TrollmeaT
Aspiring Objectivist
+492|6945|Colorado

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

TrollmeaT wrote:

Time doesn't really exist, we made it up because we cannot grasp the true concept yet, the super collider will prove this what time really is, I personally believe that time is just another particle that can be manipulated.
You mean to say that time doesn't really exist as it's believed to exist, right?
Correct
.:XDR:.PureFodder
Member
+105|7102
Decimalise time, the French tried it during the French Revolution if I recall, didn't catch on though.
joker3327
=IBF2=
+305|6871|Cheshire. UK
Why worry about time...its light you work play whatever ...its dark sleep or drink!!
Apoc-SAS
rebmeM
+39|6661|Scotland

joker3327 wrote:

Why worry about time...its light you work play whatever ...its dark sleep or drink!!
this mans on to something!
CoronadoSEAL
pics or it didn't happen
+207|6791|USA

.:XDR:.PureFodder wrote:

Decimalise time, the French tried it during the French Revolution if I recall, didn't catch on though.
possibly because the french started it?
IRONCHEF
Member
+385|6764|Northern California
The gregorian calendar that we use is a "solar" based calendar.  It's predecessors were "lunar" calendars and were slightly less accurate than the solar based one.  Sun = pwns.

I don't think there's a better way to reckon time.  Time zones..now THAT's something to blow your mind about!  I still don't understand how they work! lol
CoronadoSEAL
pics or it didn't happen
+207|6791|USA
here's one for you ironchef...
say you lived near and on the west side of the international dateline...
you make a bet with your friends that you can outscore -=volx=- in a day.  you play all day and are close, but you didn't quite make it.  instead of giving your friend the reward of the bet, you could drive over the dateline to the east, and you would have another day to get the points...then you would just have to convince your friend that what you did was legal, i suppose.
[=][=]DADDYOFDEATH
Member
+46|6725|Bradford UK
Black holes and revelations!
Spearhead
Gulf coast redneck hippy
+731|6963|Tampa Bay Florida
Everything revolves around 100... 100 seconds per minute, 100 minutes per hour, 100 hours per day, 100 days per year...

Yep.... boring I know, but easier to remember.  imo..
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,054|7045|PNW

Spearhead wrote:

Everything revolves around 100... 100 seconds per minute, 100 minutes per hour, 100 hours per day, 100 days per year...

Yep.... boring I know, but easier to remember.  imo..
An attempt to alter time to those standards would be less popular than converting US football measurements to the metric system.
Doctor Strangelove
Real Battlefield Veterinarian.
+1,758|6741

jonsimon wrote:

A day is a rotation and a year is a revolution, other than that, everything is arbitrary, so I can't think of any way to really make anything more efficient, outside of creating metric time or something. 100 seconds in a minute, 100 minutes in an hour, 100 hours in a day, or some such.
No the current system is perfect. It takes earth one hour to rotate 15 degrees and 15 X 24 = 360, the number of degrees in a circle.
IRONCHEF
Member
+385|6764|Northern California

CoronadoSEAL wrote:

here's one for you ironchef...
say you lived near and on the west side of the international dateline...
you make a bet with your friends that you can outscore -=volx=- in a day.  you play all day and are close, but you didn't quite make it.  instead of giving your friend the reward of the bet, you could drive over the dateline to the east, and you would have another day to get the points...then you would just have to convince your friend that what you did was legal, i suppose.
Dammit man, i just had a hemorrhage trying to figure out wht you said! lol  I told you, i don't do time zones!   

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