BF2S Forums australia to much like america

Flecco wrote:

jord wrote:

kr@cker wrote:

you need more pussy cars like europe, send me all your falcons, holdens (pre- GM ownership plz), and challengers.

Yes,Europe make some of the shittest,pussiest cars ever....

On further thinking i decided to actually see what European car companys are making,then i changed my mind.

BMW, Renault, Aston Martin.... I want a DB9. Pity they cost almost as much as the house I live in. I think....


Kracker, you can go get fucked, we are keeping the holdens.

Yoda wrote:

Expensive these cars are.

I was running more along the lines of Ferrari,Lamborghini,Porsche,Zonda.

And dare i say it,the headline hitter,TVR.

The sad thing is that the new generations of Australians are more willing to listen to their iPods, eat McDonalds and watch the new Hollywood film at the cinema rather than go to the beach and eat a chiko roll with $2 of chips.

With the attitude this current generation of city-folk are taking on, Australia's culture is being absorbed by America's and within a couple of decades our culture will be dead.

Tis Sad.

dubbs wrote:

Lets not get started on this, how much has the internet helped you nation?  Where did that come from?  If the US wanted to, they did not have to share the technology.  We do not have to get into other technologies do we?  (Noted that you guys may have created a similar technology, but how long would have taken you?)

We would have gotten that technology with or without alliance.

dubbs wrote:

Lets not talk about the US helping in the Pacific theater during WWII.  You guys may not have lost the war, but you guys would not be as strong as you are now.

Roosevelt himself stated that the only reason the US defended Australia was because they needed us as a launching pad for the counter-offensive.

dubbs wrote:

Let's not talk about how much money we invest into your economy when we film moves in Australia.  It may seem like a lot is going to the actors, but remember they have to sleep, eat, and get so enertainment.  Each of these cost money.

That is by far the dumbest comment I have ever heard you make.  That has nothing to do with the US government.  It has to do with film makers choosing the cheapest country to film their movie in.  Further, the film industry has shifted away from Australia.

dubbs wrote:

Even look what the Australian Government says that the ANZUS Treaty provides:

Australian Government wrote:

The alliance is the foundation of defence and security cooperation between Australia and the United States.  This increases Australia's ability to protect itself and its interests by providing access to world-leading defence hardware and technologies and to vital intelligence capabilities. Such cooperation supports joint efforts against terrorism and the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction.

Source: http://www.dfat.gov.au/geo/us/australia … iance.html

And?  Have you even been reading this thread?  Of course the government will say that, they support the US alliance.

Australian Government wrote:

Also, other then the wars that you have helped us in since WWI, what has Australia given America?

Oh, yes, because sending our young men and women off to die is such a minor issue.

Adams_BJ wrote:

same with battery

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Adams_BJ wrote:

and lieutenant.

I make a point of always saying that the right way (d'you get it?)

Adams_BJ wrote:

Our culture is being over run by the U.S. Don't blame the government for trying to be like the U.S. blame the majority of the Australian public.

Except that the things you've point out are British.............

dubbs wrote:

Bubbalo wrote:

TrollmeaT wrote:

We are allies

And so far Australia hasn't really gotten anything in return for 50 years of dedicated service.

Lets not get started on this, how much has the internet helped you nation?  Where did that come from?  If the US wanted to, they did not have to share the technology.  We do not have to get into other technologies do we?  (Noted that you guys may have created a similar technology, but how long would have taken you?)  Lets not talk about the US helping in the Pacific theater during WWII.  You guys may not have lost the war, but you guys would not be as strong as you are now.

Let's not talk about how much money we invest into your economy when we film moves in Australia.  It may seem like a lot is going to the actors, but remember they have to sleep, eat, and get so enertainment.  Each of these cost money. 

Even look what the Australian Government says that the ANZUS Treaty provides:

Australian Government wrote:

The alliance is the foundation of defence and security cooperation between Australia and the United States.  This increases Australia's ability to protect itself and its interests by providing access to world-leading defence hardware and technologies and to vital intelligence capabilities. Such cooperation supports joint efforts against terrorism and the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction.

Source: http://www.dfat.gov.au/geo/us/australia … iance.html

Also, other then the wars that you have helped us in since WWI, what has Australia given America?

isnt thousands of lives good enough for you? or do you want some more vegemite?

oh french car for sure

How so?

Flecco wrote:

Largest reserves of Uranium on Earth.

Heh, and then in the end, its going to be the world vs Aboriginees who wont give them up.

To respond to the people who responded to my post.  Bubbalo stated that the US has never done anything for Australia,  I was given a few things that we have.  Yes you could have gotten the technology, probably via the UK, but it would have taken longer then it did. 

I am glad that you all are allies with the US and am very thankful for the soldiers from Australia who have give up their lives to help the US.  You all seem to forget that we also have lost soldiers in WWII helping you all out. 

The comment that Roosevelt may have been true, but we also said that about Wake Island, and other small islands within the Pacific.  I also pointed you direction to the Australian government site as a source that we do provide you all with somethings that you may over look.

Bubblo, about the movie thing, it is the first thing that came to mind, and it showed how some of the US industries have helped you Australia in ways that most people would not have thought.  I know that LotR was not filmed in Australia, but a movie like that helps the economy where ever it is filmed.  I guess that another example of how the US has helped the economy in Australia is all the tech companies, like Dell who have chosen to go there instead of India.  This is not totally because of the cost of labor, but the fact that Australians speak English more like the people in the States do.  Yes it is cheaper to have employees in Australia, but if it was all about money, they would stay in India.  (I know that in the long run it is about money, since they do not loose as many customers, or that you have to pay extra to get a tech in Australia.)

Like I stated, America has given a lot to Australia, it is just that a lot of people forget that America invented/created a lot of things that is used in your everyday life, but we do not take credit for it.  Then we are told that we do not do anything for other nations.  This is not true, it just that some of the stuff that we have provided/given other nations they take for granted.  I could list a lot of things just in technology that the US either created or provided the ability to us to other nations, but are not given credit for it.  I also know that other nations and people could have found/developed the same things.  It just that when America went into the industrial age, they helped other nations out also, but those nations forget or over look that some simple things were first developed in the US, and if we wanted to we could have keep them "secret" to just the US.

Edit: <<<FTDM>>>Gen.Raven  one life is to much, but we also lost soliders to help protect Australia.  It just seemed if some Australians in the forums are ungrateful for the stuff that we have provided Australia, and I was wanting to know, other then the help during the wars, what have Australia given the US.  Sorry if you took that wrong.  I am very grateful for all the soliders that have servered in the US and in our Allies, without them, I would not be able to have the freedoms that I have right now.

Last edited by dubbs (2006-11-18 23:37:25)

i think of john howard as "bush's bitch"

ROFL ahahahhahaah have a +1 for that

twiistaaa wrote:

Mongoose wrote:

lol, i want to live in the 70's when the world was a much better place

i'd say the 70's when no one knew what was going on outside of their street. it wasn't better.

That is because everyone was getting high, and sharing STDs.

dubbs wrote:

twiistaaa wrote:

Mongoose wrote:

lol, i want to live in the 70's when the world was a much better place

i'd say the 70's when no one knew what was going on outside of their street. it wasn't better.

That is because everyone was getting high, and sharing STDs.

Wrong.