Fancy_Pollux
Connoisseur of Fine Wine
+1,306|6920
Instead of killing these terrorists, we capture them and cryogenically freeze them. They obviously do not fear death, but rather welcome it because they get their 72 virgins. However, if we freeze them, they will not die, but essentially be as good as dead. Once we start making examples of captured terrorists, it will dissuade other terrorists from making future attacks because they will be in fear of NOT dying and would rather not risk losing their 72 virgins.

Discuss.
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,054|7046|PNW

+1 for the most genius idea of this century.
Masques
Black Panzer Party
+184|6996|Eastern PA
But in the future when they've been reprogrammed by an evil King George III and turned into unstoppable super-terrorists with varied and sundry kung-fu grips only a flash frozen Sly Stallone will stand between us and dhimmitude!
Ottomania
Troll has returned.
+62|6795|Istanbul-Turkey
If you freeze someone he/she dies.

/fail
d4rkst4r
biggie smalls
+72|6727|Ontario, Canada
Are you Stephen Colbert?
"you know life is what we make it, and a chance is like a picture, it'd be nice if you just take it"
jonsimon
Member
+224|6769

Fancy_Pollux wrote:

Instead of killing these terrorists, we capture them and cryogenically freeze them. They obviously do not fear death, but rather welcome it because they get their 72 virgins. However, if we freeze them, they will not die, but essentially be as good as dead. Once we start making examples of captured terrorists, it will dissuade other terrorists from making future attacks because they will be in fear of NOT dying and would rather not risk losing their 72 virgins.

Discuss.
I don't think that would do anything to intimidate terrorists, but it would be the most humane death penalty I think I've ever heard.
Fancy_Pollux
Connoisseur of Fine Wine
+1,306|6920

Ottomania wrote:

If you freeze someone he/she dies.

/fail
Please refrain from using fail when you obviously don't know what you're talking about...unless, of course, the "/fail" was directed at yourself.


Taken from Wikipeida:

Cryopreservation, is a process where cells or whole tissues are preserved by cooling to low sub-zero temperatures, such as (typically) -80°C or -196°C (the boiling point of liquid nitrogen). At these low temperatures, any biological activity, including the biochemical reactions that would lead to cell death is effectively stopped.
Jestar
Shifty's Home Number: 02 9662 8432
+373|7015

/goodlogic

Thats by far the best idea ive heard.
Lol 72 Virgins.
wah1188
You orrible caaaaaaan't
+321|6734|UK
I like that idea.
Agent_Dung_Bomb
Member
+302|7010|Salt Lake City

It would be far more difficult to find, but why not give them 72 virgins while they are alive?
jonsimon
Member
+224|6769

Fancy_Pollux wrote:

Ottomania wrote:

If you freeze someone he/she dies.

/fail
Please refrain from using fail when you obviously don't know what you're talking about...unless, of course, the "/fail" was directed at yourself.


Taken from Wikipeida:

Cryopreservation, is a process where cells or whole tissues are preserved by cooling to low sub-zero temperatures, such as (typically) -80°C or -196°C (the boiling point of liquid nitrogen). At these low temperatures, any biological activity, including the biochemical reactions that would lead to cell death is effectively stopped.
Effectively he's right though, because we don't have the technology to flash freeze them properly or bring them out of it without killing them.
Fancy_Pollux
Connoisseur of Fine Wine
+1,306|6920

jonsimon wrote:

Fancy_Pollux wrote:

Ottomania wrote:

If you freeze someone he/she dies.

/fail
Please refrain from using fail when you obviously don't know what you're talking about...unless, of course, the "/fail" was directed at yourself.


Taken from Wikipeida:

Cryopreservation, is a process where cells or whole tissues are preserved by cooling to low sub-zero temperatures, such as (typically) -80°C or -196°C (the boiling point of liquid nitrogen). At these low temperatures, any biological activity, including the biochemical reactions that would lead to cell death is effectively stopped.
Effectively he's right though, because we don't have the technology to flash freeze them properly or bring them out of it without killing them.
We have the technology to flash freeze them, but we don't have the technology to undo the damage caused by that freezing. That is irrelevant though, because we won't be thawing them out.
Pyrri
Member
+7|6897
72 virgins... Wouldn't that be punishment enough?
"No, I just don't feel ready now"
"My mum always told me to wait for..."
"Do WHAT?!!!"

Loads of "There there, you were great hun..."
Harmor
Error_Name_Not_Found
+605|6822|San Diego, CA, USA
Technically when you freeze someone, unless you have some type of glycerin or anti-freeze to protect the cells from ice crystals then the cells are destroyed during the process.
CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|6829

Fancy_Pollux wrote:

Instead of killing these terrorists, we capture them and cryogenically freeze them. They obviously do not fear death, but rather welcome it because they get their 72 virgins. However, if we freeze them, they will not die, but essentially be as good as dead. Once we start making examples of captured terrorists, it will dissuade other terrorists from making future attacks because they will be in fear of NOT dying and would rather not risk losing their 72 virgins.

Discuss.
Either that or actually provide them with 72 virgins so they don't have to go blowing themselves up.
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,054|7046|PNW

How about electronically-induced suspended animation?
jord
Member
+2,382|6952|The North, beyond the wall.
It would be cheaper to send send them to the future than freeze them.
Agent_Dung_Bomb
Member
+302|7010|Salt Lake City

Pyrri wrote:

72 virgins... Wouldn't that be punishment enough?
"No, I just don't feel ready now"
"My mum always told me to wait for..."
"Do WHAT?!!!"

Loads of "There there, you were great hun..."
There you go.  If we could convince them that 72 women, virgins or not, would be hell, they wouldn't do it.  Especially if we could convince them that the women would be on the rag for all eternity. 

Last edited by Agent_Dung_Bomb (2006-11-14 12:54:38)

Paco_the_Insane
Phorum Phantom
+244|6919|Ohio
then when we freeze them, we can put them in antarctica, untill global warming unfreezes them.
Yaocelotl
:D
+221|6924|Keyboard
Cryopreservation, is a process where cells or whole tissues are preserved by cooling to low sub-zero temperatures, such as (typically) -80°C or -196°C (the boiling point of liquid nitrogen). At these low temperatures, any biological activity, including the biochemical reactions that would lead to cell death is effectively stopped.
including the biochemical reactions that would lead to cell death is effectively stopped   <---- at cell level, you F-F-F-F-FAIL.

Last edited by Yaocelotl (2006-11-14 13:03:02)

Miller
IT'S MILLER TIME!
+271|7030|United States of America

CameronPoe wrote:

Fancy_Pollux wrote:

Instead of killing these terrorists, we capture them and cryogenically freeze them. They obviously do not fear death, but rather welcome it because they get their 72 virgins. However, if we freeze them, they will not die, but essentially be as good as dead. Once we start making examples of captured terrorists, it will dissuade other terrorists from making future attacks because they will be in fear of NOT dying and would rather not risk losing their 72 virgins.

Discuss.
Either that or actually provide them with 72 virgins so they don't have to go blowing themselves up.
They would then blow themselves up and get 72 more virgins.
CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|6829
You could develop prosthetic hymens to be fitted to town prostitutes. That might sate their bloodthirst.

Last edited by CameronPoe (2006-11-14 13:10:06)

Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|6811|Long Island, New York
This = Best idea ever. You win. +1
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,054|7046|PNW

Miller wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

Fancy_Pollux wrote:

Instead of killing these terrorists, we capture them and cryogenically freeze them. They obviously do not fear death, but rather welcome it because they get their 72 virgins. However, if we freeze them, they will not die, but essentially be as good as dead. Once we start making examples of captured terrorists, it will dissuade other terrorists from making future attacks because they will be in fear of NOT dying and would rather not risk losing their 72 virgins.

Discuss.
Either that or actually provide them with 72 virgins so they don't have to go blowing themselves up.
They would then blow themselves up and get 72 more virgins.
No, they would blow themselves up to get away from those 72 virgins, only to get 72 more virgins. And from then on, the vicious cycle would continue. A hellish eternity of fruitless suicide.
Ty
Mass Media Casualty
+2,398|7048|Noizyland

Unfortunately I think that the freezing process kills the brain so the person is pretty much dead when they are unfrozen, (the brain won't tell the heart to work etc.) however one could keep them on life support, (see South Park episode where Kenny had to save Heaven from the Devil's army and although brain-dead was kept on life support and thus was trapped in his body and so couldn't go to Heaven.)

But good concept Fancy, death obviously doesn't work.

Fancy_Pollux wrote:

We have the technology to flash freeze them, but we don't have the technology to undo the damage caused by that freezing. That is irrelevant though, because we won't be thawing them out.
Point taken, however are they truly alive when they're frozen? Their body is 'healthy' as such, but are they conscious in any way? Somehow I don't think so.

Last edited by Ty (2006-11-14 13:18:26)

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