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Turquoise wrote:

In effect, I'm ok with setting a fascism in place in Iraq, but I don't want our own government to become fascist.  Lately, the latter seems to be happening.

Example?

Reciprocity wrote:

why are you all still discussing this, Miller solved the problem in one sentence.

Miller wrote:

Bomb their nuclear factories to dust, then move in with the marines .

on the surface, it's so simple it's stupid, like a complete fucking retard wrote it.   but when you cross your eyes and read it again, 10 or 40 times, you understand that the real genius lies in the simplicity.  keep up the good work.

It would never work. The bombing would draw negative attitudes of American and foreign people, and the marines would wallow around fighting a stalemate war against an enemy who is galvonized against the west and recieves an increasing amount of support from neighboring nations and 'terrorist' groups. Then, after we find ourselves waist deep in another losing war, despite superior technology and the element of surprise, we have to face the increasing pressures of the Chinese and Russian militaries breathing down our necks. Pure genius, right.

Vietnam V3.0

Edit: Oh, and Israel will probably do something batshit crazy like drop a nuke and the US would take the resulting shock as the perfect oppertunity to cut and run, signing some weak armistice that doesn't adress any of the original conflicts.

Last edited by jonsimon (2006-11-14 18:28:38)

Parker wrote:

jonsimon wrote:

Parker wrote:

i made no personal attacks in my posts,

lol you insulted ALL of Europe. Stfu Gtfo Parker ftl.

i didnt realize a general insult was to be taken as a personal attack....if thats the case, then all you people that talk shit about americans can go stfu asodifaj or whatever the hell it is you freaks type, go whine to someone else, if you got something to add to the discussion please do, if not peace......thank you though for clearing that all up.

Well, you said it to a european who you were disagreeing with. And it was off-topic. Its a personal attack.

Besides, that's not the only example, and in general, you fail at civilized conversation thus far.

Turquoise wrote:

Stingray24 wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

In effect, I'm ok with setting a fascism in place in Iraq, but I don't want our own government to become fascist.  Lately, the latter seems to be happening.

Example?

Wiretapping any citizens the government feels like.  Arrests without warrants.  Pretty much everything in the Patriot Act is fascist.

And the new torture and detainment laws. And the wiretapping.

jonsimon wrote:

Parker wrote:

jonsimon wrote:

lol you insulted ALL of Europe. Stfu Gtfo Parker ftl.

i didnt realize a general insult was to be taken as a personal attack....if thats the case, then all you people that talk shit about americans can go stfu asodifaj or whatever the hell it is you freaks type, go whine to someone else, if you got something to add to the discussion please do, if not peace......thank you though for clearing that all up.

Well, you said it to a european who you were disagreeing with. And it was off-topic. Its a personal attack.

Besides, that's not the only example, and in general, you fail at civilized conversation thus far.

and the bar you raised on civlized conversation was so hard to beat, with whitty remarks like "Stfu" and "Gtfo". so we disagree on what a personal insult is, get over it. and speaking of "failing" as the virgin gamers like to say, id say that you "fail" at really saying anything with this post. so go think for awhile, come up with something insightful to write and give it another shot. and remember, if at first you dont suceed try, try again.

Last edited by Parker (2006-11-14 19:22:47)

Here it is... The usual suspects post replies with the overtones of "screw Israel, they suck let them die, they deserve it, America should, um bugger off,  you failed in Vietnam, blah, blah..."   My retort to them is A. You haven't a clue of what you are writing, B. Your hatred of Israel and America is blinding you to the bigger picture.  Go to your "discotecs" on Friday night without a worry knowing that the world is better off with America looking out for you ignorant sympathizers.  Face it -as painful as it is for you non-Americans to see, we are the hegemony.  We deal with the world's shit.  Iran with nukes is a really bad dream.  I'm sorry that you guys can't see it, but there are leaders over across the deep blue that (no matter how dumb you think our guys are) realize what is going on.  Ok, lets suppose we let that psycho have his nuclear "power plants".. .First, he blows Israel off the map... Nobody does anything (by your standards and you cheer -death to Jews eh?  Good stuff for you? Go hitler!).  The UN writes a stern letter condemning them.  Then its onto the next closest country that opposes the way those FASCISTS think.   We don't do anything right?  So they develop the technology to shoot that nuke a bit further.  I don't think you all get it.  One day these assholes will get to YOUR COUNTIES NAME on their list of "Infidels to Kill today".  Then what will you do?  Cry to the UN?  What the hell will they do?  Call on the US?  You bet your ass they would. .  And guess what.  We'll be there.  Not to say "we told you so,"  but to keep your little smudge on the map you call "home" from glowing.  If you don't agree with me -that's cool, grab your turban and head to the middle east... I hear that there is a "jihad" going on over there and the good old USA will help you meet your 40 virgins.

BRINSON OUT!

Masques wrote:

I find it interesting that so many on the right in this forum argue vehemently for the right to bear arms so that a government may fear its citizens but are perfectly content with an executive that oversteps its legal bounds and disobeys congress (I hope you know that the government was determined to have broken the law during the whole wiretapping brouhaha earlier this year.)

It would appear that an untrammeled executive is fine so long as you can have a handgun.

Wrong on the wire tap.  How do US laws pertain to citizens of another state?  They don't.  That is what the wiretapping was going for.  Unfortunately, people in our own government betrayed this brilliant maneuver of tracking terrorists by reporting it to the main stream media.

WilhelmSissener wrote:

I've got other things to worry about than some crazy persian

Exactly.  That's why you can go to your discotec and let the US deal with it.

DBBrinson1 wrote:

Here it is... The usual suspects post replies with the overtones of "screw Israel, they suck let them die, they deserve it, America should, um bugger off,  you failed in Vietnam, blah, blah..."   My retort to them is A. You haven't a clue of what you are writing, B. Your hatred of Israel and America is blinding you to the bigger picture.  Go to your "discotecs" on Friday night without a worry knowing that the world is better off with America looking out for you ignorant sympathizers.  Face it -as painful as it is for you non-Americans to see, we are the hegemony.  We deal with the world's shit.  Iran with nukes is a really bad dream.  I'm sorry that you guys can't see it, but there are leaders over across the deep blue that (no matter how dumb you think our guys are) realize what is going on.  Ok, lets suppose we let that psycho have his nuclear "power plants".. .First, he blows Israel off the map... Nobody does anything (by your standards and you cheer -death to Jews eh?  Good stuff for you? Go hitler!).  The UN writes a stern letter condemning them.  Then its onto the next closest country that opposes the way those FASCISTS think.   We don't do anything right?  So they develop the technology to shoot that nuke a bit further.  I don't think you all get it.  One day these assholes will get to YOUR COUNTIES NAME on their list of "Infidels to Kill today".  Then what will you do?  Cry to the UN?  What the hell will they do?  Call on the US?  You bet your ass they would. .  And guess what.  We'll be there.  Not to say "we told you so,"  but to keep your little smudge on the map you call "home" from glowing.  If you don't agree with me -that's cool, grab your turban and head to the middle east... I hear that there is a "jihad" going on over there and the good old USA will help you meet your 40 virgins.

BRINSON OUT!

Despite what has been said in this thread, I believe there are many Europeans, who are willing to go pretty far to ensure that Iran doesn't develop nuclear attacking capabilities. At least I am one those people.
On the other hand Europe is so divided with different interests, that we probably cant effectively dwarf Iran by ourselves. Thats where we would need a strong UN (= currently a sad joke, to say the least) or the help of the US. Unfortunately, the US <=> NATO is spread pretty thin at the moment.

Although I'm not a big fan of Israel, I still recognize their sheitty position. I wonder how long their temper lasts?

Last I heard though, Russia was negotiating with Iran about the enrichment. Maybe there is still hope for this to go down without war.

CameronPoe wrote:

They also held their own for 10 years against the US armed and funded Saddam regime of Iraq.

smtt686 wrote:

actually we funded and armed both sides....

Can I have some links to your information. Thats news to me.

Just a question but is unemployment so huge in Ireland that you guys can just post this much? I swear every topic i go to you have posted in.

Turquoise wrote:

Stingray24 wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

In effect, I'm ok with setting a fascism in place in Iraq, but I don't want our own government to become fascist.  Lately, the latter seems to be happening.

Example?

Wiretapping any citizens the government feels like.  Arrests without warrants.  Pretty much everything in the Patriot Act is fascist.

YAh and badmouthing the country, Badmouthing the President and the military and holding anti war protests while our men and women are in harms way is good somehow? Stopping or stalling appropriations for the war, Critisizing every move, Putting down the leadership and everything every chance you get because of spite is good? It helps our troops and our military win how? The Partisan politicians and the American public didnt learn a damn thing from vietnam. Plus the fact the ones with the most decenting voices wernt even frigging born back then and think they know it all. Well hope there happy, there whinning has or might put a huge target on our ass now.