| Freedom of Speech | 73% | 73% - 198 | ||||
| Right to Bear Arms | 26% | 26% - 72 | ||||
| Total: 270 | ||||||
Why don't you go ahead and do it for me?Bubbalo wrote:
Then explain Britain.DBBrinson1 wrote:
The right to bear arms paved the way for free speech.
Maybe you should follow the discussion back to it's start before you declare who's being an idiot.Not wrote:
I have to side with lowing on this, really. What's the point, exactly, of bringing in new arguments and splitting hairs over minute details when everyone already knows the context of the discussion? The right to bear arms refers to guns. I've never heard a debate about whether or not people should be allowed to carry swiss army knives. If you can't win an argument based on the relevant topics, you lose. Learn to accept that, or if at all possible, learn from it. Perhaps, God forbid, you're wrong about something and you'll just realize that. Unlikely, but humanity can hope.
Why should I argue your side?DBBrinson1 wrote:
Why don't you go ahead and do it for me?
Sure it does. Ever hear of the Castle Doctrine? If someone breaks into my house I can (and will) kill them. I have a CWP here in Florida and if I see a force able felony in progress, I have every right to draw my weapon and "shoot someone". And I will. Hell, I think every non convicted felon in America should have to carry a gun.Knifey McStabstab wrote:
I don't think you guys realize that just because you are allowed to have a gun, doesn't mean you are allowed to shoot someone.
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Thanks, you just did.Bubbalo wrote:
Maybe you should follow the discussion back to it's start before you declare who's being an idiot.Not wrote:
I have to side with lowing on this, really. What's the point, exactly, of bringing in new arguments and splitting hairs over minute details when everyone already knows the context of the discussion? The right to bear arms refers to guns. I've never heard a debate about whether or not people should be allowed to carry swiss army knives. If you can't win an argument based on the relevant topics, you lose. Learn to accept that, or if at all possible, learn from it. Perhaps, God forbid, you're wrong about something and you'll just realize that. Unlikely, but humanity can hope.Why should I argue your side?DBBrinson1 wrote:
Why don't you go ahead and do it for me?
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How so? You have yet to prove your position. Britain has right to free speech but does not have right to bear arms.DBBrinson1 wrote:
DBBrinson1 wrote:
Why don't you go ahead and do it for me?Thanks, you just did.Bubbalo wrote:
Why should I argue your side?
Anymore.Bubbalo wrote:
How so? You have yet to prove your position. Britain has right to free speech but does not have right to bear arms.DBBrinson1 wrote:
DBBrinson1 wrote:
Why don't you go ahead and do it for me?Thanks, you just did.Bubbalo wrote:
Why should I argue your side?
I find myself scratching my head, here. Does "for example, I have the right to dance, yet I choose not to," mean you'd accept said right being removed, because it doesn't affect you directly?Bubbalo wrote:
For example, I have the right to dance, yet I choose not to. And if we're going to get technical you are incorrect: the right to bear arms is the right to have weapons, not guns.
I probably wouldn't care too much, yes.unnamednewbie13 wrote:
I find myself scratching my head, here. Does "for example, I have the right to dance, yet I choose not to," mean you'd accept said right being removed, because it doesn't affect you directly?Bubbalo wrote:
For example, I have the right to dance, yet I choose not to. And if we're going to get technical you are incorrect: the right to bear arms is the right to have weapons, not guns.
Can you please provide facts to support your claim that nobody in Britain is allowed to own a weapon?Bubbalo wrote:
How so? You have yet to prove your position. Britain has right to free speech but does not have right to bear arms.DBBrinson1 wrote:
DBBrinson1 wrote:
Why don't you go ahead and do it for me?Thanks, you just did.Bubbalo wrote:
Why should I argue your side?
From the OP:Bubbalo wrote:
Maybe you should follow the discussion back to it's start before you declare who's being an idiot.Not wrote:
I have to side with lowing on this, really. What's the point, exactly, of bringing in new arguments and splitting hairs over minute details when everyone already knows the context of the discussion? The right to bear arms refers to guns. I've never heard a debate about whether or not people should be allowed to carry swiss army knives. If you can't win an argument based on the relevant topics, you lose. Learn to accept that, or if at all possible, learn from it. Perhaps, God forbid, you're wrong about something and you'll just realize that. Unlikely, but humanity can hope.
Pretty simple question there isn't it? Which one would you choose? Did it say anything about specifying the already obvious in your argument? Please, your insanity is contagious. Stop thinking.sergeriver wrote:
If you could have only one, which one would you choose?
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
Benjamin Franklin
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That was the start of the discussion between me and lowing.lowing wrote:
wow, britain doesn't have guns??!!Bubbalo wrote:
Then explain Britain.DBBrinson1 wrote:
The right to bear arms paved the way for free speech.
They probably have their reasons. Mostly 'what if the govt becomes corrupt' and 'i need it to protect myself that much'.Reciprocity wrote:
lol, 26% of this forum population is fucking retarded.
Ever seen Red Dawn? that movie is like porno for gun nuts. Most of these freaks fantasize about fighting invaders or their own goverment, all kinds of weird shit. I'm a gun owner, but I also have a brain and common sense.Spark wrote:
They probably have their reasons. Mostly 'what if the govt becomes corrupt' and 'i need it to protect myself that much'.
Then you get a gun and storm the Bastille. You don't need the right to bare arms if you're in open revolt, you just do it anyway.Spark wrote:
They probably have their reasons. Mostly 'what if the govt becomes corrupt' and 'i need it to protect myself that much'.Reciprocity wrote:
lol, 26% of this forum population is fucking retarded.
Under the same logic, if you had the right to read, yet chose not to, you would accept the banning of books with open arms?Spark wrote:
I probably wouldn't care too much, yes.unnamednewbie13 wrote:
I find myself scratching my head, here. Does "for example, I have the right to dance, yet I choose not to," mean you'd accept said right being removed, because it doesn't affect you directly?Bubbalo wrote:
For example, I have the right to dance, yet I choose not to. And if we're going to get technical you are incorrect: the right to bear arms is the right to have weapons, not guns.
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You could start thinking yourself, it's a good exercise.Not wrote:
Can you please provide facts to support your claim that nobody in Britain is allowed to own a weapon?Bubbalo wrote:
How so? You have yet to prove your position. Britain has right to free speech but does not have right to bear arms.DBBrinson1 wrote:
Thanks, you just did.DBBrinson1 wrote:
Why don't you go ahead and do it for me?From the OP:Bubbalo wrote:
Maybe you should follow the discussion back to it's start before you declare who's being an idiot.Not wrote:
I have to side with lowing on this, really. What's the point, exactly, of bringing in new arguments and splitting hairs over minute details when everyone already knows the context of the discussion? The right to bear arms refers to guns. I've never heard a debate about whether or not people should be allowed to carry swiss army knives. If you can't win an argument based on the relevant topics, you lose. Learn to accept that, or if at all possible, learn from it. Perhaps, God forbid, you're wrong about something and you'll just realize that. Unlikely, but humanity can hope.Pretty simple question there isn't it? Which one would you choose? Did it say anything about specifying the already obvious in your argument? Please, your insanity is contagious. Stop thinking.sergeriver wrote:
If you could have only one, which one would you choose?
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
Benjamin Franklin
How many kids die every year driving daddy's car?lowing wrote:
Not too sure where you can go shopping to buy hand grenades, but good luck with that.sergeriver wrote:
You are right, if you excuse me I have to go to the supermarket because we are out of grenades.lowing wrote:
They are both essential, impossible to answer, rationally that is.
Ya see, the neat thing about the right to bear arms is, you have just as much right NOT to bear arms if you CHOOSE not to. Isn't that cool??
Now, for me as long as there are criminals who will commit violent crimes,( B and E, home invasion, would be one of those by the way) then I will invoke my right to bear arms to protect my family and myself.
So, before you even think about saying it, I will nip in the bud right now:
Your concern about kids getting killed by guns in the home is so scary to you,do to irresponsible parents, then perhaps we need to park all the cars as well, since kids also die in cars from irresponsible drivers.
More to the point, if you choose note to have a car your not at risk of crashing it, if you choose not to have a gun you run just as much (if not more) risk of being shot.sergeriver wrote:
How many kids die every year driving daddy's car?lowing wrote:
Not too sure where you can go shopping to buy hand grenades, but good luck with that.sergeriver wrote:
You are right, if you excuse me I have to go to the supermarket because we are out of grenades.
Ya see, the neat thing about the right to bear arms is, you have just as much right NOT to bear arms if you CHOOSE not to. Isn't that cool??
Now, for me as long as there are criminals who will commit violent crimes,( B and E, home invasion, would be one of those by the way) then I will invoke my right to bear arms to protect my family and myself.
So, before you even think about saying it, I will nip in the bud right now:
Your concern about kids getting killed by guns in the home is so scary to you,do to irresponsible parents, then perhaps we need to park all the cars as well, since kids also die in cars from irresponsible drivers.
Only because of the arms for everyone fest.Bubbalo wrote:
More to the point, if you choose note to have a car your not at risk of crashing it, if you choose not to have a gun you run just as much (if not more) risk of being shot.sergeriver wrote:
How many kids die every year driving daddy's car?lowing wrote:
Not too sure where you can go shopping to buy hand grenades, but good luck with that.
Ya see, the neat thing about the right to bear arms is, you have just as much right NOT to bear arms if you CHOOSE not to. Isn't that cool??
Now, for me as long as there are criminals who will commit violent crimes,( B and E, home invasion, would be one of those by the way) then I will invoke my right to bear arms to protect my family and myself.
So, before you even think about saying it, I will nip in the bud right now:
Your concern about kids getting killed by guns in the home is so scary to you,do to irresponsible parents, then perhaps we need to park all the cars as well, since kids also die in cars from irresponsible drivers.
Reciprocity wrote:
Ever seen Red Dawn? that movie is like porno for gun nuts. Most of these freaks fantasize about fighting invaders or their own goverment, all kinds of weird shit. I'm a gun owner, but I also have a brain and common sense.Spark wrote:
They probably have their reasons. Mostly 'what if the govt becomes corrupt' and 'i need it to protect myself that much'.
praise the lord and pass the ammunition
actually my analogy workssergeriver wrote:
How many kids die every year driving daddy's car?lowing wrote:
Not too sure where you can go shopping to buy hand grenades, but good luck with that.sergeriver wrote:
You are right, if you excuse me I have to go to the supermarket because we are out of grenades.
Ya see, the neat thing about the right to bear arms is, you have just as much right NOT to bear arms if you CHOOSE not to. Isn't that cool??
Now, for me as long as there are criminals who will commit violent crimes,( B and E, home invasion, would be one of those by the way) then I will invoke my right to bear arms to protect my family and myself.
So, before you even think about saying it, I will nip in the bud right now:
Your concern about kids getting killed by guns in the home is so scary to you,do to irresponsible parents, then perhaps we need to park all the cars as well, since kids also die in cars from irresponsible drivers.
yeah boy, we are all just running around shootin' up each other. BTW, I have 2 guns, a Remington 870 tactical shotgun (8 shots) and a Romanian built Ak-47.........semi auto onlysergeriver wrote:
Only because of the arms for everyone fest.Bubbalo wrote:
More to the point, if you choose note to have a car your not at risk of crashing it, if you choose not to have a gun you run just as much (if not more) risk of being shot.sergeriver wrote:
How many kids die every year driving daddy's car?