Why don't we start pulling troops out and start economic sanctions against against Iraq. Stop sending aide to the country and let it crumble from the inside. If the people don't want us there, then I say we let them starve. It has become quite clear that the Iraqi's can only fight a war of attrition, but they are quite good at it. So I say pull out all humanitarian resources. Save us all those billions we're spending.
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never have so little words been so right.Fancy_Pollux wrote:
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America should have done this AGES ago. Go in there, beat the Iraqis, Get Saddam and buy the Iraqi army then get the fuck out of there.
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you think insurgents give a single shit about economic sanctions? The more chaotic Iraq becomes, the more deeply rooted the insurgents will become.
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So let a country of a few million die of starvation because of a handful of fucking idiots that mostly don't even live there?.....................god I hope you have the excuse of being young and immature for writing that crap.
"Great powers do what they will, small powers suffer what they want"
-Thucydides
Mistakes have been made by allowing Iraq to dictate the way in which the war has been waged. The US is the great power, not Iraq. We need to start dictating the terms of the relationship. If conventional warfare doesn't work, attack the populus directly, through unconventional means.
-Thucydides
Mistakes have been made by allowing Iraq to dictate the way in which the war has been waged. The US is the great power, not Iraq. We need to start dictating the terms of the relationship. If conventional warfare doesn't work, attack the populus directly, through unconventional means.
You don't actually starve the people to death. You starve them until they are willing to listen. It is indirect coercion. Historically, it has already been done, 48-49, the Berlin Airlift, where the Soviet bloc completely cut off Berlin from the rest of the world through complete ground traffic control. The only reason the Soviets FAILED is because the US intervened with the Berlin Airlift.VspyVspy wrote:
So let a country of a few million die of starvation because of a handful of fucking idiots that mostly don't even live there?.....................god I hope you have the excuse of being young and immature for writing that crap.
There was another incident, Somalia in 1993, the US was called in to safeguard aide being brought into the country because regional warlords were seizing the aide. During the Battle of Mogadishu, the US lost a few special forces soldiers, who's bodies were dragged through the street, causing the US to withdraw their forces. Thus, condemning the people to starve at the whim of local warlords.
I'm not making waves here.
Does anyone remember a propaganda campaign at the start of the war that incited the Iraqi people to rise up agaists there dictator saying something like: Although we failed to support your uprising last time we promise we'll stay to the end this time. Or am I just making that up? That's not a quote, just the general gist of it.
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Yet another person who blindly follows news reports that favor anti-American sentiment over everything else.Elamdri wrote:
Why don't we start pulling troops out and start economic sanctions against against Iraq. Stop sending aide to the country and let it crumble from the inside. If the people don't want us there, then I say we let them starve. It has become quite clear that the Iraqi's can only fight a war of attrition, but they are quite good at it. So I say pull out all humanitarian resources. Save us all those billions we're spending.
That'd be like having two kids and abandoning them in the forest.Elamdri wrote:
Why don't we start pulling troops out and start economic sanctions against against Iraq. Stop sending aide to the country and let it crumble from the inside. If the people don't want us there, then I say we let them starve. It has become quite clear that the Iraqi's can only fight a war of attrition, but they are quite good at it. So I say pull out all humanitarian resources. Save us all those billions we're spending.
Well, kids are a major PITA and financial drain!ATG wrote:
That'd be like having two kids and abandoning them in the forest.Elamdri wrote:
Why don't we start pulling troops out and start economic sanctions against against Iraq. Stop sending aide to the country and let it crumble from the inside. If the people don't want us there, then I say we let them starve. It has become quite clear that the Iraqi's can only fight a war of attrition, but they are quite good at it. So I say pull out all humanitarian resources. Save us all those billions we're spending.
I moved straight from no kids to grand kids. I get to wind their asses up on sugar and then give them back when I'm done!
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The damage was already done. Pulling out now and emposing economic sanctions would have no effect.Elamdri wrote:
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As for insta-dad...something like that. Her kids were already grown, and her middle grandson was born about the time we got together. The youngest grandshild came a few years after.
I'm not exactly a youngster in these forums. I'm old enought to be the father of many of the BF2S members, and if I had children young (you know us daman godless liberals), I could even be have blood grandchildren of my own.
I know nothing would happen. I'm trying to illustrate flaws in Realist philosophy of international relations. This was the best example I could think of on short notice. Just trying to think of the most blatant abuse of US power that could occur in Iraq.Agent_Dung_Bomb wrote:
The damage was already done. Pulling out now and emposing economic sanctions would have no effect.Elamdri wrote:
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Iraq is pretty fucked no matter what we do, but I still like Joe Biden's 3 section idea.
against what economy?
are you on meth?
are you on meth?