BF2S Forums Ok Dems, you got it, now what!?

King_County_Downy wrote:

I'm going to build a giant fence and ban commercial fishing in 2/3 of the ocean.

*speechless*

"sound of crickets chirping"   lol
the ball is in their court... no more complaining... lets see some solutions... at least now the terrorist situation will go away...  lol

Virginia still has to report in. If they win, that's good. But I'd pose this question to either party: Congrats, you made it to the end. Now here's the bonus level: fix the country.

Patriot Act isn't as bad as it's made out to be. Frankly, if you aren't plotting to blow up buildings, then you shouldn't mind the possibility that out of 300 million Americans, the CIA and NSA will listen to your convos with your girlfriend. Now then, I'd be concerned if the CIA+NSA caught wind of some of my IRC messages.

"how about that UAV trailer? and their artillery pieces?"
*tap*
"yeah lets blow it up, lots of explosives"
*untap*

*knock on door*
Sir, we'd like to take you to our offices for some questioning...

FOR THE OP:

Uh, what's wrong with raising taxes?  Do you forget that it's our taxes that pay for things?  Do you also realize Bush squandered a huge surplus and put is near a trillion in debt?  Should dems keep the facade going that money grows on trees?

I expect a responsible compromise between adjustment of current money (chop off the Iraq funding, trash the useless DHS and other useless government growth Bush made despite the republican mantra of 'small government'), and taxation.

I don't expect the 49 million americans without healthcare to suddenly have it.  I simply hope that's down to at least 40 million americans by the end of this congressional term.

Abortion?  Well, Republicans had 12 years to do something about it, and of course they failed..probably because THE PEOPLE of this country want it still, unfortunately.  Dems will not change anything because there's nothing to change.

Gay Marriage is a state issue, as it's always been, so again, nothing will change from the house.

What are you looking for here?  You're asking questions in an accusatory way as if Republicans had ANY of those things under control! lol

Hurricane wrote:

AlbertWesker[RE] wrote:

Hurricane wrote:

Patriot Act isn't as bad as it's made out to be. Frankly, if you aren't plotting to blow up buildings, then you shouldn't mind the possibility that out of 300 million Americans, the CIA and NSA will listen to your convos with your girlfriend. Now then, I'd be concerned if the CIA+NSA caught wind of some of my IRC messages.

"how about that UAV trailer? and their artillery pieces?"
*tap*
"yeah lets blow it up, lots of explosives"
*untap*

*knock on door*
Sir, we'd like to take you to our offices for some questioning...

THANK YOU!!! Finally a voice of common sense from the left (I Think, right?)

People are too paranoid.

Eh, call me moderate (assuming that means inbetween). I would've voted Democrat for Maryland most likely, but I don't really put myself into any of the stereotypes of either of the two main parties. I oppose the Iraq War, but do think taxes should only be as high as needed.

OMG Join the democratic party NOW, you will bring much needed balance to them

Let me restate my previous statement

finally a voice of reason on this board. 

AlbertWesker[RE] wrote:

HeimdalX wrote:

And here I was thinking that people were just tired of Republicans doing nothing, which is why 1 out of 3 republicans in my red state voted democrat and offset some key votes.

So to answer your question, they'll do more than Republicans have done probably. Maybe they'll repeal the patriot act and give us freedom back.

Name one thing that YOU have lost from the Patriot Act.  Have you even read it? Did you know that it was amended/extended just this last session OVERWHELMINGLY by Democrats? You don't even know what you're talking about.

Still waiting libs, cmon, humor me, waiting for your answers.

First off, I am not a "lib" so dont expect answers from me. But as far as the PATRIOT act goes, section 216 still exists, and while nothing directly has happened to me, the basic fact that it COULD disturbs me.

The scary thing is,  These powers the president has granted the executive  branch (including but not limited to the PATRIOT act) allows not only GWB powers, but any future presidents as well. That is what really scares me. Imagine Hillary (censorship queen) with all the powers that GWB has today. Any way you look at it, its bad news.

I leave with a famous and,  IMO true saying

First they came for the Jews
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for the Communists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for me
and there was no one left
to speak out for me.

Last edited by Snipedya14 (2006-11-08 10:34:30)

Funny how in my state a minor has to get permission from their parents to get their ears pierced, but they don't need to get their permission to get an abortion.  Also the person doing the abortion is not required by law to report it and thus the person who impregnated the minor isn't procecuted.

Harmor wrote:

Funny how in my state a minor has to get permission from their parents to get their ears pierced, but they don't need to get their permission to get an abortion.  Also the person doing the abortion is not required by law to report it and thus the person who impregnated the minor isn't procecuted.

What exactly does this have to do with Democrats gaining power in the house?

IRONCHEF wrote:

FOR THE OP:

Uh, what's wrong with raising taxes?  Do you forget that it's our taxes that pay for things?  Do you also realize Bush squandered a huge surplus and put is near a trillion in debt?  Should dems keep the facade going that money grows on trees?

I expect a responsible compromise between adjustment of current money (chop off the Iraq funding, trash the useless DHS and other useless government growth Bush made despite the republican mantra of 'small government'), and taxation.

I don't expect the 49 million americans without healthcare to suddenly have it.  I simply hope that's down to at least 40 million americans by the end of this congressional term.

Abortion?  Well, Republicans had 12 years to do something about it, and of course they failed..probably because THE PEOPLE of this country want it still, unfortunately.  Dems will not change anything because there's nothing to change.

Gay Marriage is a state issue, as it's always been, so again, nothing will change from the house.

What are you looking for here?  You're asking questions in an accusatory way as if Republicans had ANY of those things under control! lol

Nothing is wrong with raising taxes, unless thats all you do for every problem (somewhat kidding, but not really) Libs seem to be always willing to spend money on just about everything, and than collect more taxes.... Not very smart, do you realize that our deficit is DECREASING because of tax cuts and conservative implements.... hmmmm, I will be happy if you guys can balance the budget better though.  I never implied that its easy to do, but just chill on some of the taxes, like transportation for example, here in Seattle we have an ABUNDANT transpo system, yet the local libs seem fervent to INCREASE taxes for even MORE service that is completely unnecessary.

I agree with your second statement.

I think that healthcare should be an INDIVIDUAL issue, they should be able to support themselves with minimal help from the gov't that pushes them in the RIGHT direction, can't use gov't as a crutch.  I'm 20, I have a job and healthcare, and if I lose my job, who am I going to blame, myself, and if I don't get a job am I going to lean on the gov't, no.

I don't think Republicans SHOULD have done anything about abortion, that would be wrong, it is fine where it is right now.

Gay marriage is a state issue yes, but now that more dems are in state seats whats going to happen? (Even though the gay marriage bills across the nation got shot down on Tues.)

No I'm NOT asking questions in a accusatory way, I'm wondering what you guys are going to do because none of your ads tell me what you guys want.  It just says Oh Congressman X votes with Bush 90% of the time, we don't need another rubber stamp *yawn*.  I'm not being accusatory, don't generalize me, I just want to know your guys views, I genuinely do, I'm not trying to troll here.

I never said Repubs had any of it under control, we used tax cuts to DECREASE the deficit, and maintained a status quo on many other things while the crime rate drops.  I'm just curious as to what you guys want. That is all.

Capt.CupoNoodles wrote:

No one can win this "Political war", folks....I haven't voted in 18 years (yes, I'm 36 and a proud american, but what happened to the honest/non-pediphile/drug using politicians? Yes...they were once there) because as soon as the politicians get to Washington, everything changes. That's why you'll only see the "local" politicians getting things done. There are too many "favors" that need to be fullfilled after they get so far, and so they can't commit to anything....
I'm neither Democrat nor Republican, 'cause they're all full of crap trying to get to the House or Senate...trust your local Rep...not the big guys.
Yes, the Democrats have most of the seats...and yes, if they don't make EVERYONE happy in the next couple of years, that changes too...
Time marches on, folks...we're just along for the ride.

Cup out.

Can't disagree with this one.

Edit: And to whoever said I was angry on a karma to me, I'm not, I'm just genuinely curious about what you guys want, because honestly, I can't tell from the majority of dem ads.  Thanks.

Last edited by AlbertWesker[RE] (2006-11-08 10:40:52)

HeimdalX wrote:

And here I was thinking that people were just tired of Republicans doing nothing, which is why 1 out of 3 republicans in my red state voted democrat and offset some key votes.

So to answer your question, they'll do more than Republicans have done probably. Maybe they'll repeal the patriot act and give us freedom back.

Typical liberal, probably?