/noBertster7 wrote:
Bloody Hell. Couldn't you have just posted a link.']['error wrote:
wiki ^^
English language
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spawn and Ninja cant are allergic to clicking links to wiki. + they like to quote ^^
Terror <3 spawn nd ninja
/noBertster7 wrote:
Bloody Hell. Couldn't you have just posted a link.']['error wrote:
wiki ^^
English language
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My brain (or what's left of it) hurts.Bertster7 wrote:
Bloody Hell. Couldn't you have just posted a link.']['error wrote:
wiki ^^
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I suppose that's fair enough then.']['error wrote:
/noBertster7 wrote:
Bloody Hell. Couldn't you have just posted a link.']['error wrote:
word close can be used in the phrase "Close the door" but not "do not go close to the landing gear".
spawn and Ninja cant are allergic to clicking links to wiki. + they like to quote ^^
Terror <3 spawn nd ninja
That's like people who ask if I can understand the "mexican" them peoples is speaking. You merely have to shake your head and chuckle.CameronPoe wrote:
When I was in Wisconsin this one guy insisted that he didn't speak English - he spoke American. Am I actually speaking Irish right now and not English? Thig liom labhairt Gaeilge má tá tú ag iarraidh...
Haha. That was exactly everyone's reaction when I was in Chicago or New York: "WTF were you doing in Wisconsin?" - followed by some comment about cheese.Erkut.hv wrote:
That's like people who ask if I can understand the "mexican" them peoples is speaking. You merely have to shake your head and chuckle.CameronPoe wrote:
When I was in Wisconsin this one guy insisted that he didn't speak English - he spoke American. Am I actually speaking Irish right now and not English? Thig liom labhairt Gaeilge má tá tú ag iarraidh...
WTF you doing in Wisconsin? lol
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would have to disagree with you on that last point. The roots of english might be germanic, but we've jakced so many words from so many other laguages (latin, french, greek) that it's a completely different thing. I can never understand why this stuff (oh noes its called soccer! oh noes its not!) gets people so worked up. we call it football, you can call it whatever the fuck you like. easy. Just so long as you don't start trying to make me speak "American" *shiver*. Irish people speaking English isn't Irish, Irish is called bloody irish :) welsh people speaking english is different to welsh the language. "You come from england. That's in London, right?"wreck® wrote:
Quick lesson for you before any sport was well organized all games rugby soccer Australian rules etc that weren't played on horseback were called football ..because you played it on foot. Flash forward to the 1800's in the united states people at Yale played their own version of rugby so they called it what everyone else called it "football".KILLSWITCH wrote:
Yeah this stuff really pisses me off. We invented 'football' and the Americans have the cheek to call the thing Soccer!!!! And then they steal the name football for their own game. I knew it would happen somewhere eventually.
Out of curiosity what was the game called?
The term "soccer" was actually coined by an school in Eaton so blame your country. What determines what the game should be called precedence and length of time playing the game? The Chinese played "cuju" 2500 years ago and fifa acknowledges that so maybe you should rethink telling people your country invented football. Out of the English speaking world American Canada and Australia call it soccer thats 350 million versus Ireland and England who call it football which is 65 million people ...so you got it wrong its called soccer.
As far as the original poster read the name "English" refers to the Anglo-Frisian language England stole from West Germanic people. So you don't speak English you speak a dialect of Ingvaeonic Germanic. In that same respect Americans speak an American dialect not its own language but that doesn't make you any better just because you stole it first.
Yet Irish and Welsh people speaking English use the same words. Americans don't, they use a corrupted form of English that, whilst similar, is distinctly different.brome wrote:
would have to disagree with you on that last point. The roots of english might be germanic, but we've jakced so many words from so many other laguages (latin, french, greek) that it's a completely different thing. I can never understand why this stuff (oh noes its called soccer! oh noes its not!) gets people so worked up. we call it football, you can call it whatever the fuck you like. easy. Just so long as you don't start trying to make me speak "American" *shiver*. Irish people speaking English isn't Irish, Irish is called bloody irish welsh people speaking english is different to welsh the language. "You come from england. That's in London, right?"wreck® wrote:
Quick lesson for you before any sport was well organized all games rugby soccer Australian rules etc that weren't played on horseback were called football ..because you played it on foot. Flash forward to the 1800's in the united states people at Yale played their own version of rugby so they called it what everyone else called it "football".KILLSWITCH wrote:
Yeah this stuff really pisses me off. We invented 'football' and the Americans have the cheek to call the thing Soccer!!!! And then they steal the name football for their own game. I knew it would happen somewhere eventually.
Out of curiosity what was the game called?
The term "soccer" was actually coined by an school in Eaton so blame your country. What determines what the game should be called precedence and length of time playing the game? The Chinese played "cuju" 2500 years ago and fifa acknowledges that so maybe you should rethink telling people your country invented football. Out of the English speaking world American Canada and Australia call it soccer thats 350 million versus Ireland and England who call it football which is 65 million people ...so you got it wrong its called soccer.
As far as the original poster read the name "English" refers to the Anglo-Frisian language England stole from West Germanic people. So you don't speak English you speak a dialect of Ingvaeonic Germanic. In that same respect Americans speak an American dialect not its own language but that doesn't make you any better just because you stole it first.
Dialect is different from language. The correct spelling of words is the same in Yorkshire, Newcastle, London etc. Pronunciation and usage of words may vary, but that is very different to being a different language.Jinto-sk wrote:
So how do you explain Geordies, Yorkshiremen, scousers etc with their own words for things but it's still classed as English no one cries about that. Can you understand a geordie in full flow I can't.
American, as apposed to U.K. English bloke.mafia996630 wrote:
Americans speak american-ish.
You made it worse by quoting him..lolBertster7 wrote:
Bloody Hell. Couldn't you have just posted a link.
Did I? I never would have guessed. I'm terribly sorry. I won't do it again, honest.Kmarion wrote:
You made it worse by quoting him..lolBertster7 wrote:
Bloody Hell. Couldn't you have just posted a link.
I liked your other points in the post but to say the English "stole" the language from the Anglo-Frisians is a bit, well, wrong. The Angles and the Saxons were Germanic tribes (think Saxony in Germany) who invaded the territory now known as England (Angland, Angles, in French Angleterre) and brought their Germanic language with them. Then the Normans invaded in 1066 and brought their Latinized Germanic language (now known as French) to the island. The Franks (the root of the word France and French,) were originally a Germanic tribe (think Frankfurt in Germany,) who were Latinized by the Romans. This is why English is mostly made up of words that are Germanic in root but with a heavy French/Latin influence as well. This combination of influences is also why English has the largest vocabulary of any language in the world, over 600,000 words I believe. In comparison French only has about 250,000 words.wreck® wrote:
As far as the original poster read the name "English" refers to the Anglo-Frisian language England stole from West Germanic people. So you don't speak English you speak a dialect of Ingvaeonic Germanic. In that same respect Americans speak an American dialect not its own language but that doesn't make you any better just because you stole it first.
What's spelling got to do with it didn't think that was the issue hereBertster7 wrote:
Dialect is different from language. The correct spelling of words is the same in Yorkshire, Newcastle, London etc. Pronunciation and usage of words may vary, but that is very different to being a different language.Jinto-sk wrote:
So how do you explain Geordies, Yorkshiremen, scousers etc with their own words for things but it's still classed as English no one cries about that. Can you understand a geordie in full flow I can't.
That's very much the issue. American spelling is different to English spelling.Jinto-sk wrote:
What's spelling got to do with it didn't think that was the issue hereBertster7 wrote:
Dialect is different from language. The correct spelling of words is the same in Yorkshire, Newcastle, London etc. Pronunciation and usage of words may vary, but that is very different to being a different language.Jinto-sk wrote:
So how do you explain Geordies, Yorkshiremen, scousers etc with their own words for things but it's still classed as English no one cries about that. Can you understand a geordie in full flow I can't.
If we're talking about spelling things phonetically, why does George Bush keep saying "I'm proud to be a merkin"?silo1180 wrote:
I'm an Amurican (phonetically spelled) and I speak Texan!
As it happens, what we call football is more properly called "association football" and rugby is actually properly called "rugby football" so for Americans to abbreviate "American football" to merely "football" is just as correct (or incorrect) as what we do.KILLSWITCH wrote:
Yeah this stuff really pisses me off. We invented 'football' and the Americans have the cheek to call the thing Soccer!!!! And then they steal the name football for their own game. I knew it would happen somewhere eventually.
Out of curiosity what was the game called?
lol true dat. Through, Trough, rough, Thorough, Drought, ThoughtBertster7 wrote:
I don't like American spelling because it's not strange enough. English needs to be strange to confuse foreigners.
Now you're getting it. The Americans are trying to make English easy and I disapprove.JimmyBotswana wrote:
lol true dat. Through, Trough, rough, Thorough, Drought, ThoughtBertster7 wrote:
I don't like American spelling because it's not strange enough. English needs to be strange to confuse foreigners.
lol foreigners must look at this and scream in order for the English language to maintain its dominance.
I thought we were talking about stuff likeBertster7 wrote:
That's very much the issue. American spelling is different to English spelling.Jinto-sk wrote:
What's spelling got to do with it didn't think that was the issue hereBertster7 wrote:
Dialect is different from language. The correct spelling of words is the same in Yorkshire, Newcastle, London etc. Pronunciation and usage of words may vary, but that is very different to being a different language.
Centre=Center
Defence=Defense
Colour=Color
and so on.
I don't like American spelling because it's not strange enough. English needs to be strange to confuse foreigners.
We could be, but I'm not.Jinto-sk wrote:
I thought we were talking about stuff likeBertster7 wrote:
That's very much the issue. American spelling is different to English spelling.Jinto-sk wrote:
What's spelling got to do with it didn't think that was the issue here
Centre=Center
Defence=Defense
Colour=Color
and so on.
I don't like American spelling because it's not strange enough. English needs to be strange to confuse foreigners.
Trunk or boot
Gas or Petrol
i can't understand any of this, maybe i'll babelfish this "english" into a language with testicles like american or spanishLostFate wrote:
So i was at my mates today playin him on some xbox game an as it starts it gives us a choice of what language we want an i see ( AMERICAN ) wtf is this << american my arse, ENGLISH
hell its quite damn insulting, just my opinion post your view if you have one.
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