What's your syndrome called? Everytime I get to this forum, it's full of threads like this? What makes grown (?) man rant about old wars month after month?Kmarion wrote:
Don't sweat them dude they have the poor little beaten red-headed step child syndrome.
Eh?
But there are levels of helping others. Take Australia, for example. We often fight "other people's wars". Yet we do it for our gain.Nicholas Langdon wrote:
its still defending others bubbalo....
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In Australia, we remember the fallen on the 11th of the 11th at 1100 (that's this Saturday). I think it's very important, but most people here don't seem to know what Armistice Day (AKA Remembrance Day) is anymore. Just goes to show where our priorities are. But you can't spent all of life thinking about death - that would defeat the purpose of all those poor bastards getting the shit shot out of them.Ender2309 wrote:
you're an idiot. this wasn't a "pity us yay america thread!!!!" it was a thread to remember fallen US soldiers, because ATG is american, and over here veterans day is on friday, asshole. go make a thread for fallen british soldiers. i'm willing to bet my left nut that it wouldn't have recieved half the negative attention this thread did.
You may as well have said: "Everyone says they hate me, but it's really just my personality they don't like." They're hating your American-ness (because of your democratically elected government's policies) not you personally. I know that's probably no consolation, but the German's still cop shit for what the Nazi's did all those years ago, so... you know... deal with it.Ender2309 wrote:
everybody out in the world loves to bash america, when really its our government you hate.
Everyone accept the attackee is in a war for their own gain, our gain would be that we help them, they help us, and vice versa....Bubbalo wrote:
But there are levels of helping others. Take Australia, for example. We often fight "other people's wars". Yet we do it for our gain.Nicholas Langdon wrote:
its still defending others bubbalo....
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I just like to call things with their real names, no offense intended.Nicholas Langdon wrote:
yes i realize this, the person who responded to me didnt so i put it into terms they understand, dont try to be superior by stating this. and yes regardless of the fact that they had a non agression pact, they did far more for the war effort than the US did, so dont play them down simply because they had their own agenda at the beginning of the war. every country has their own agenda, such as the states selling war supplies to the british untill their money ran out. why join a war when you can make money off of it.SpaceApollyon wrote:
PS. Russia is not the same as USSR
What is the Nicaraguan govt doing? Well? What the fuck are they doing to better themselves? Dont always look to us for aid because when we try to help nations get mad at us for that too.Fen321 wrote:
Lifting the embargo came after the contras ravished the country so it makes no difference.deeznutz1245 wrote:
In 1990 George Bush lifted the trade embargo on Nicaragua and gave $300 million in aid. He proposed another $200 million the next year, $150 million of which they received. Wow, we are real assholes, huh?Fen321 wrote:
So why did America support the Contras in Nicaragua? Contras given money and arms that were flown in illegally from Honduras....then those weapons were used to kill thousands of civilians. Now that doesn't fit that mold now does it.
Just take a look at the ICJ cases and the denunciation by the U.N. and tell me again we are such nice guys.
Essentially that country has no right to defend itself, but ironic how our stance towards Israel is the exact opposite. We perceive their encroachment into Lebanon as a right of state to defend itself. God forbid we apply this logic to other countries such as Nicaragua. Giving aid does not eliminate the fact that WE the U.S. founded terrorist organizations in Nicaragua.
Trust me they are not dead. They all live in Miami and the ones who dont can be found in a Cadillac doing 28 mph in a 45mph zone.Tas3674 wrote:
Y do people OWE the current Americans??? most of the people who did help us are dead now, we owe you people nothing, and don't forget that other nations fought as well and won battles, not just the Americans.
FUCK YOU NEEDLE DICK........just kidding, lol. .....+1 for your good point.JahManRed wrote:
This thread has becoming typical of what the D&ST forum has become. Personal attacks a plenty, closed mindedness and rail roading. OK there are obviously two sides here who are prity hardcore in their views. When you get passionate about something, stop, think and remember that they are passionate in their views also. When you rant people generally switch off and don't read your posts. When you post a well thought out post the more discerning poster tips their hat to the point, even if they don't necessarily agree with it and formulate their own argument.
What I am seeing ATM is people ignoring points and switching straight to personal attacks instead of taking the time to type a post which address the points and makes an argument. DEBATE. Instead its abuse and people trying to bolster their own self esteem by pointing out typo's as if it makes someone stupid because they see this as a forum were they air their views and don't read through meticulously using a Theseus and a dictionary to Analise every word, while at the same time totally ignoring the point making themselves look stupid.
This forum has become a place for some people to try and make themselves look much more intelligent and well informed than they are. How many time have I seen posts were the point is totally ignored, instead a personal ego enhancing attack if dished out. I admit I am starting to do the same out of frustration!!
I used to enjoy the jousting with the regulars, Ok we don't see eye to eye, but their was the tongue and cheek and the odd tip of the hat. Now you get jumped on for spelling and have your entire post history analyzed by board college kids dragging up previously long dead posts. SAD.
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Truman left office with a 25% percent approval rating, and yet history has judged him not so harshly.Spearhead wrote:
ATG, personally I think you comparing World War 2 to the War in Iraq disgusting. But, that's just me. Yes, Americans shed blood. But so have other humans from all sorts of nationalities throughout history, whether for better or for worse.
If I personally knew you, I'd definitely bet you a substantial amount of money that Iraq will be viewed as a mistake and that Bush will be viewed as one of the worst Presidents in this nations history.
Besides, if you are indeed correct, ATG, I wouldn't bother trying to tell people otherwise. Shut up for the moment, then, if or when we're proven wrong, then you should start talking about it.
There you go. I didn't know it was a holiday in Europe. I guess as our ties to Britain have lessened, people have taken less notice of Remembrance Day. Do you know if schools still stop for it? I noticed last year (or the year before, I can't remember) when I was in town and at 11 o'clock hardly anyone stopped to remember. I was very disappointed. My grand father was British, and I was brought up with it, I just thought that it was observed nation-wide. Apparently I was wrong.Bubbalo wrote:
cospengle: Remembrance Day is a European holiday, and a vestige of our ties to Britain. ANZAC Day is the Australia version, which is why it is more widely recognised.
Are we not forgetting the cause of this thread? ATG, you created this thread to rember the American people that have fallen through out wars, there are a lot of other people that want to pay respects to there fallen countrymen to. Lets stop the bickering and pay out respect to the people that gave there life for us so we could live here today.ATG wrote:
Truman left office with a 25% percent approval rating, and yet history has judged him not so harshly.Spearhead wrote:
ATG, personally I think you comparing World War 2 to the War in Iraq disgusting. But, that's just me. Yes, Americans shed blood. But so have other humans from all sorts of nationalities throughout history, whether for better or for worse.
If I personally knew you, I'd definitely bet you a substantial amount of money that Iraq will be viewed as a mistake and that Bush will be viewed as one of the worst Presidents in this nations history.
Besides, if you are indeed correct, ATG, I wouldn't bother trying to tell people otherwise. Shut up for the moment, then, if or when we're proven wrong, then you should start talking about it.
Americans are dying in Iraq, selflessly, just as they did in Normandy.
so why don't you;
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sorry sweetie, Truman wasn't the President on June 6, 1944.ATG wrote:
Truman left office with a 25% percent approval rating, and yet history has judged him not so harshly.
Americans are dying in Iraq, selflessly, just as they did in Normandy.
so why don't you;
U.S. didn't save russia's ass, the lend/lease was a drop in the bucket.ATG wrote:
Okay, i suppose canada would have stop Japan from Raping and butchering all of asia?Nicholas Langdon wrote:
dying is dying, wherever it is.ATG wrote:
He's refering to Americans dying in far off places, all those countries you list owe their existance to those men under the grass in the photos.
and no the world does not owe its exestance to the united states
I suppose it was Canadian trucks/tanks and planes that saved Russias ass ( ever here of lend/lease ?) ?
It was Canada that kept the 3rd reich from steamrolling over the world?
I have a special dose of love for Canada and all things Canada, don't get me wrong.
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