SysTray
"Generous mods" < Thats right Systray !
+180|7093|Delaware
People just aren't allowed to speak freely these days...I find this story somewhat similar in action and consequence to the school bus driver who got the boot for giving Bush the finger.

What do you think: Free speech being limited or a just punishment?



BOSTON, Massachusetts (AP) -- A radio talk show host was fired Friday after he made a derogatory comment about the weight and sexuality of the Green-Rainbow party candidate running for Massachusetts governor.

WRKO-AM pulled host John DePetro from the air after he made the comments Thursday. It announced Friday that he had been fired.

"In the context of what he said and the tone with which he said it, the comments were completely inappropriate, derogatory and will not be tolerated," said Jason Wolfe, the vice president of AM programming and operations for station owner Entercom Boston.

DePetro did not immediately return an e-mailed request for comment Friday. However, he told The Boston Globe in a story posted Friday on its Web site that he was "stunned" that he had been fired.

He said he had called the candidate, Grace Ross, to apologize for calling her a "fat lesbian."

The host, who calls himself the "Independent Man," said he made the remark because he was exasperated that Ross and independent candidate Christy Mihos were eating up time during a debate earlier in the week that included Republican candidate Kerry Healey and Democrat Deval Patrick.

He said it was then that he told listeners he wished someone would "tell the fat lesbian to shut up."

"I just think both her and Christy have served their purpose and I had a problem with them still thrusting themselves into the debate," he told the Globe. "I think I vocalized what a lot of people were thinking -- will you just shut up and let them go at it. I added a little more."

Ross, who is openly gay, laughed when she heard about it but said the comment was offensive.

"Big, fat? I guess that's supposed to be his way of saying he doesn't like somebody," she said.

After hearing DePetro had been fired, she said: "I think that the comment was offensive in general, so I hope that many people in the state were offended by it and will help set a standard of what political debate is supposed to be about."

DePetro had also been reprimanded by station management in July for using a slur often aimed at homosexuals in reference to Matt Amorello, the former chairman of the Massachusetts Turnpike Authority.

Wolfe said that after DePetro was suspended in that case, the host was warned that "any further comments of this kind would be dealt with in a severe way."

"I have no doubt that terminating John's employment was the right action to take," he said.
http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/11/03/ … index.html
Stingray24
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" . . . he had called the candidate, Grace Ross, to apologize for calling her a "fat lesbian."

ROFLMAO  Sorry, that's funny.   The guy was stupid to say that and deserves to be fired.
SysTray
"Generous mods" < Thats right Systray !
+180|7093|Delaware
He entitled to an opinion isn't he?
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6677|North Carolina
Here's how I see it...  The aforementioned bus driver was fired for unprofessional behavior as was this radio host.

We have the freedom of speech, but employers have the freedom to fire and hire as they please.
TeamZephyr
Maintaining My Rage Since 1975
+124|6802|Hillside, Melbourne, Australia

SysTray wrote:

He entitled to an opinion isn't he?
Theres a big difference between opinion and slander.
Stingray24
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+1,060|6718|The Land of Scott Walker
http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/slander

slander n. oral defamation, in which someone tells one or more persons an untruth about another which untruth will harm the reputation of the person defamed. Slander is a civil wrong (tort) and can be the basis for a lawsuit. Damages (payoff for worth) for slander may be limited to actual (special) damages unless there is malicious intent, since such damages are usually difficult to specify and harder to prove. Some statements such as an untrue accusation of having committed a crime, having a loathsome disease, or being unable to perform one's occupation are treated as slander per se since the harm and malice are obvious, and therefore usually result in general and even punitive damage recovery by the person harmed. Words spoken over the air on television or radio are treated as libel (written defamation) and not slander on the theory that broadcasting reaches a large audience as much if not more than printed publications

Sounds like the statement was true (she's openly gay) so it can't be slander.  Just stupid and mean.

Last edited by Stingray24 (2006-11-03 16:13:28)

SysTray
"Generous mods" < Thats right Systray !
+180|7093|Delaware

TeamZephyr wrote:

SysTray wrote:

He entitled to an opinion isn't he?
Theres a big difference between opinion and slander.
I find that both are words coming out of one's mouth. I'm sure if he was ballsy enough to say that on the radio that enough people knew about it for it not to be slander.

Regardless of whether it was slander or not, I don't find it to be uncalled for. Words are words. Let people speak freely, if they deserve some bashing for what they say they'll get it from the public, it shouldn't come from the government/employer.
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,054|7044|PNW

Sounds to me like the gay candidate didn't care as much as the station managers. I honestly don't see how calling someone a fat lesbian is derogatory, if they are a fat lesbian. How many words do we need for 'fat' and 'lesbian,' here? The English language is already cluttered enough by PC terms.
SysTray
"Generous mods" < Thats right Systray !
+180|7093|Delaware

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Sounds to me like the gay candidate didn't care as much as the station managers. I honestly don't see how calling someone a fat lesbian is derogatory, if they are a fat lesbian. How many words do we need for 'fat' and 'lesbian,' here? The English language is already cluttered enough by PC terms.
Exactly. Something the public probably already knows can't be slander.
Fester53D&E
Member
+3|6702|Los Angeles, CA
Agree with unnamednewbie.  What part was offensive, "fat" or "lesbian."  As far as I can tell the word lesbian is exactly what the PC crowd calls lesbians, ummm because they are in fact lesbians!  He didn't call her a fat dyke (which would have been offensive).  I guess then that the word "fat" is offensive to people and shouldn't be used in broadcasting.  Wow.  Maybe the "fat lesbian" should stop stuffing her pie-hole with twinkies, walk a few miles and STFU. 

Oops, was that offensive??
Stingray24
Proud member of the vast right-wing conspiracy
+1,060|6718|The Land of Scott Walker
Take the gay issue out of this for a second.  Say he called a woman a fat cow on the air.  Does that change things?  I think the fat comment is worse than the gay reference in our society.  An employer can't let stuff like that happen or they lose credibility.  I think that's why he was fired.

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