sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|6759|Argentina
This text was signed by a lot of World Leaders dated 4th of October 2006.  At the bottom you have a link to the article.  It seems fair enough.

Towards a Comprehensive Settlement of the Arab-Israeli Conflict

With the Middle East immersed in its worst crisis for years, we call for urgent international action towards a comprehensive settlement of the Arab-Israeli conflict.

Everyone has lost in this conflict except the extremists throughout the world who prosper on the rage that it continues to provoke.  Every passing day undermines prospects for a peaceful, enduring solution. As long as the conflict lasts, it will generate instability and violence in the region and beyond.

The outlines of what is needed are well known, based on UN Security Council resolutions 242 of 1967 and 338 of 1973, the Camp David peace accords of 1978, the Clinton Parameters of 2000, the Arab League Initiative of 2002, and the Roadmap proposed in 2003 by the Quartet (UN, US, EU and Russia).  The goal must be security and full recognition to the state of Israel within internationally recognized borders, an end to the occupation for the Palestinian people in a viable independent, sovereign state, and the return of lost land to Syria.

We believe the time has come for a new international conference, held as soon as possible and attended by all relevant players, at which all the elements of a comprehensive peace agreement would be mapped, and momentum generated for detailed negotiations.

Whether or not such an early conference can be convened, there are crucial steps that can and should be taken by the key players, including: 

          Support for a Palestinian national unity government, with an end to the political and financial boycott of the Palestinian Authority. 

          Talks between Israel and the Palestinian leadership, mediated by the Quartet and reinforced by the participation of the Arab League and key regional countries, on rapidly enhancing mutual security and allowing revival of the Palestinian economy.

          Talks between the Palestinian leadership and the Israeli government, sponsored by a reinforced Quartet, on the core political issues that stand in the way of achieving a final status agreement. 

          Parallel talks of the reinforced Quartet with Israel, Syria and Lebanon, to discuss the foundations on which Israeli-Syrian and Israeli-Lebanese agreements can be reached. 

Nobody underestimates the intractability of the underlying issues or the intensity of feelings they provoke. But if the Arab-Israeli conflict, with all its terrible consequences, is ever to be resolved, there is a desperate need for fresh thinking and the injection of new political will. The times demand no less.

Signed by click this link.

Last edited by sergeriver (2006-11-03 07:31:48)

kr@cker
Bringin' Sexy Back!
+581|6551|Southeastern USA
so basically israel has to give up even more of their land to a state that doesn't exist in the first place, yeah that's worked great the past few hundred times they've aggreed to such policies, why not try it again?
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|6759|Argentina

kr@cker wrote:

so basically israel has to give up even more of their land to a state that doesn't exist in the first place, yeah that's worked great the past few hundred times they've aggreed to such policies, why not try it again?
I think it's a fair plan.  This piece of shit war has to end.
kr@cker
Bringin' Sexy Back!
+581|6551|Southeastern USA
hey, arafat and the rest of the pig fuckers tried to claim Jordan as palestine first, till king hussein got sick of it and killed about 20,000 of them before kicking them out, how about giving some of jordan to "palestine"

edit: come to think of it, arafat was egyptian, how about egypt contribute to the "palestine real estate welfare program"?

Last edited by kr@cker (2006-11-03 09:37:45)

sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|6759|Argentina

kr@cker wrote:

hey, arafat and the rest of the pig fuckers tried to claim Jordan as palestine first, till king hussein got sick of it and killed about 20,000 of them before kicking them out, how about giving some of jordan to "palestine"
The West Bank, which was part of Jordan and stolen in 1967 by Israel.
kr@cker
Bringin' Sexy Back!
+581|6551|Southeastern USA

sergeriver wrote:

kr@cker wrote:

hey, arafat and the rest of the pig fuckers tried to claim Jordan as palestine first, till king hussein got sick of it and killed about 20,000 of them before kicking them out, how about giving some of jordan to "palestine"
The West Bank, which was part of Jordan and stolen in 1967 by Israel.
read farther down, it says:

"The West Bank was captured and annexed by Jordan, and the 1949 "

after england, rightful owners of the area after the failure of the ottoman aggression, had declared the area a place for jewish settlement

Last edited by kr@cker (2006-11-03 09:42:13)

JahManRed
wank
+646|6629|IRELAND

kr@cker wrote:

so basically israel has to give up even more of their land
LOL, thats a contradiction of terms if I ever seen one.
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|6759|Argentina

kr@cker wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

kr@cker wrote:

hey, arafat and the rest of the pig fuckers tried to claim Jordan as palestine first, till king hussein got sick of it and killed about 20,000 of them before kicking them out, how about giving some of jordan to "palestine"
The West Bank, which was part of Jordan and stolen in 1967 by Israel.
read farther down, it says:

"The West Bank was captured and annexed by Jordan, and the 1949 "
So, Israel was created in 1948 and for one year they owned the West Bank?  The West Bank was there before.
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|6759|Argentina

JahManRed wrote:

kr@cker wrote:

so basically israel has to give up even more of their land
LOL, thats a contradiction of terms if I ever seen one.
QFT.
kr@cker
Bringin' Sexy Back!
+581|6551|Southeastern USA

sergeriver wrote:

JahManRed wrote:

kr@cker wrote:

so basically israel has to give up even more of their land
LOL, thats a contradiction of terms if I ever seen one.
QFT.
so who owned the area before england?
lets give it back to the ottomans!
where's ottomania?
kr@cker
Bringin' Sexy Back!
+581|6551|Southeastern USA

sergeriver wrote:

kr@cker wrote:

read farther down, it says:

"The West Bank was captured and annexed by Jordan, and the 1949 "
So, Israel was created in 1948 and for one year they owned the West Bank?  The West Bank was there before.
as part of the ottoman empire, then it was given to the jews when the ottomans /failed
so by your logic it's jordan's for stepping in and taking it, but it's not israel's for their taking it back?
jarhedch
Member
+12|6671|Aberdeen, Uk, SF Bay Area 1st
This "war" will never end till the anhiliation of Israel occurs at the hands of The Arab and Palestinian nations.
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|6759|Argentina

kr@cker wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

kr@cker wrote:


read farther down, it says:

"The West Bank was captured and annexed by Jordan, and the 1949 "
So, Israel was created in 1948 and for one year they owned the West Bank?  The West Bank was there before.
as part of the ottoman empire, then it was given to the jews when the ottomans /failed
so by your logic it's jordan's for stepping in and taking it, but it's not israel's for their taking it back?
No, that is not what I said.  That region belongs to Palestine.
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|6759|Argentina
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6583|SE London

The British never gave Palestine to the Jews. That is a common misconception. Try reading the actual documents, the Balfour Declaration and the White Paper of 1939. Jewish immigration was permitted on the condition the immigrants peacefully co-existed with the Arabs resident there.
The restrictions placed on immigration and the naval blockades set up by the British to counter this immigration as well as the deportation back to Europe, often even to Germany, of the Jewish settlers who were immigrating illegally. The Jewish settlers were outraged by the restrictions on immigration and began a campaign of terrorism against the British (see the King David Hotel Bombing for a prolific example). Who, in the post war depression were having to support a large military in the mandate - this was expensive (much like the US in Iraq today, performing peacekeeping duties while being targeted by terrorists) and eventually the British gave up and pulled out of Palestine. The Zionist militant groups immediately declared Israel a state, getting US backing minutes later.

The British stayed out of the UN partition plan abstaining on the vote, claiming that backing the state of Israel would be a dereliction of their duties to the Palestinian people - to whom various promises had been made, by Lawrence of Arabia I think.

It wasn't given - it was taken. By use of terrorism. No wonder the Palestinians are copying them when the Israeli terror campaigns were so effective.

Last edited by Bertster7 (2006-11-03 10:58:56)

sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|6759|Argentina
We ain't Palestinians or Israelis and yet we can't agree in how to stop this conflict in the ME.  The people who signed that article want to end the conflict and the proposals seem very fair for both sides.

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