Some Americans are just as bad. And actually, having your head sawed off is probably a fuck of a lot less painful than having every bone in your body broken by a group of fucked up skinheads, then being left to die of internal bleeding.Poseidon wrote:
I've seen a lot of them. Daniel Pearl, Nick Berg, that South Korean guy. Why? It shows me what we're up against and how these people are ruthless against innocent people and think that this justifies it.
Well sucks for them, all it basically is is creating pro-american propaganda and making people hate them even more.
Someone is a little upset.UnOriginalNuttah wrote:
Some Americans are just as bad. And actually, having your head sawed off is probably a fuck of a lot less painful than having every bone in your body broken by a group of fucked up skinheads, then being left to die of internal bleeding.Poseidon wrote:
I've seen a lot of them. Daniel Pearl, Nick Berg, that South Korean guy. Why? It shows me what we're up against and how these people are ruthless against innocent people and think that this justifies it.
Well sucks for them, all it basically is is creating pro-american propaganda and making people hate them even more.
How so?Miller wrote:
Someone is a little upset.UnOriginalNuttah wrote:
Some Americans are just as bad. And actually, having your head sawed off is probably a fuck of a lot less painful than having every bone in your body broken by a group of fucked up skinheads, then being left to die of internal bleeding.Poseidon wrote:
I've seen a lot of them. Daniel Pearl, Nick Berg, that South Korean guy. Why? It shows me what we're up against and how these people are ruthless against innocent people and think that this justifies it.
Well sucks for them, all it basically is is creating pro-american propaganda and making people hate them even more.
It's all about wording..... There is no politics in this at all, nothing other then I've seen this video and it kinda scared me... But what's your point do you want people to start flaming me?topthrill05 wrote:
I started a thread about the same thing a few months ago and I was flamed like a burning marshmallow.
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What are you talking about? Of course there's politics in this!! This video is propaganda, created either by islamic extremists or by those who seek to back a war by whatever means necessary. Either ways, its purpose is not to show you how to take someone's head off The point made is utterly political.cpt.fass1 wrote:
It's all about wording..... There is no politics in this at all
I was talking in the way I posted this.. I was not political the beheadings where but not my point of talking about it..oug wrote:
What are you talking about? Of course there's politics in this!! This video is propaganda, created either by islamic extremists or by those who seek to back a war by whatever means necessary. Either ways, its purpose is not to show you how to take someone's head off The point made is utterly political.cpt.fass1 wrote:
It's all about wording..... There is no politics in this at all
oh silly us, we forgot that america invented racism and skinheads only exist over here!UnOriginalNuttah wrote:
Some Americans are just as bad. And actually, having your head sawed off is probably a fuck of a lot less painful than having every bone in your body broken by a group of fucked up skinheads, then being left to die of internal bleeding.Poseidon wrote:
I've seen a lot of them. Daniel Pearl, Nick Berg, that South Korean guy. Why? It shows me what we're up against and how these people are ruthless against innocent people and think that this justifies it.
Well sucks for them, all it basically is is creating pro-american propaganda and making people hate them even more.
Lol that old guy was "jack armstrong" and i gotta say that beheading vid and the nepalese video takes the cake for the most gruesome and goriest beheading, none can compare to it. Dont believe the people who say the nick berg video is a fake because i seen still images of his corpse dangling from a bridge with his head rite below, the insurgents took a rope tied it to his leg and hung it from a bridge and had his head rite beneath the body.Jenkinsbball wrote:
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I've seen them all. The worst of them all is the older guy who they struggle to finish off. Then, he's laying there and trying to breathe. That freaking whistling noise is haunting. And, the Asian guy who made the same noise, equally disturbing.
I think I'll rewatch them all, just for fun. I never got to see the real Berg beheading. I saw the cut where it went black and then his head was on his body. Can someone email me them? PM me for addy.
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Maybe I need to clarify. When I originally posted it there was a warning and I was just putting it up there to discuss it, naturally it went the opposite way I wanted it too.cpt.fass1 wrote:
Yeah cause you linked it to a video and didn't say what it was no warning so people where going in blind of course you're going to get flamed.. I would have flamed you too, if I checked it out to see a gruesome video like that.
If you notice there's no links here it clearly states what I want to discuss, and it was more or less because I needed to vent after seeing the video again yesterday and a few others. Just wanted to get a general feeling about this to bring me back to my normal plain of existence. As appose to sitting here staring blankly at nothing.
oh ok I got you, sometimes it just happens that way.. No link here if you want to find it, it's up to you....topthrill05 wrote:
Maybe I need to clarify. When I originally posted it there was a warning and I was just putting it up there to discuss it, naturally it went the opposite way I wanted it too.cpt.fass1 wrote:
Yeah cause you linked it to a video and didn't say what it was no warning so people where going in blind of course you're going to get flamed.. I would have flamed you too, if I checked it out to see a gruesome video like that.
If you notice there's no links here it clearly states what I want to discuss, and it was more or less because I needed to vent after seeing the video again yesterday and a few others. Just wanted to get a general feeling about this to bring me back to my normal plain of existence. As appose to sitting here staring blankly at nothing.
Oh well, yours went better.
i dont think anybody needs to see it. They want you see how ruthless they are. thats the whole pointPoseidon wrote:
I just saw the Eugene Armstrong one. It's absolutely the worse of them all. But you know what? I think we ALL need to see it. It may be shocking, but it really just shows how ruthless these guys are and how they have no pity for innocent people and make them suffer.
Well, atleast they caught Daniel Pearl's killer. There hasn't been a beheading in like 6 months. Thank god for that.
Only animals act this way. There is no reason to do this to someone who has been captured. There are laws against this and this is so far above and beyond what is expected it cannot be justified at all. Whoever did this shows that they are the true animals in Iraq.cpt.fass1 wrote:
I saw the Nick Berg beheading video a couple of years back by accident at work. Now what I mean by accident is that I walked into a room where someone was watching it and I couldn't turn away. I know this is a brutal thing that is done for a shock and awe purpose by the terrorists, and I just wantted to say that it is truely a disgusting thing.
That's it
P.S. I can take alot of stuff but this just really turned my stomach and still even the thought of it still does. If you haven't seen it I would say don't go looking for it.
While I'm not saying I disagree with them, a few of the points are just down right stupid. And I don't know how dependable a site that in this serious breakdown says, "whipe one's ass," just doesn't seem to right.Sgt. Sergio Bennet 3rd wrote:
have you read this:
http://topplerummy.org/berg/
and this:
http://aztlan.net/berg_abu_ghraib_video.htm
there´s a conspiracy theory that that video could have been "faked"....
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I don't even know what to say in reponse to this idiocy...IRONCHEF wrote:
You know, to be devil's advocate here a little...
I'm seeing alot of people describe the berg beheading video (if it was correctly attributed to be the actual decapitation death he suffered) gruesome, the killers being monsters, and the like.
But then I started thinking of nameless "detainees" who've suffered much more abuse, greater pain threshold over a longer period of time, and possibly greater mental or psychological suffering...under the hands of US service men and women. I'm guessing the al quaeda killings are more hated because they're the enemy, and he was killing an american who foolishly volunteered to go to Iraq.
But think for a minute if your brother was snagged from your home after an ulawful entry by force and you didn't hear from him for 2 years, then suddenly a box is dropped off at your door with the remains of your brother..or worse, a letter sent saying your brother is dead [blah blah blah, lie, lie, lie] and his remains have been left at a morque. Surely you'd attribute the same epithets you do for the nick berg killers to the us service men/women who did likewise to your brother.
And guess what? Our forces are committing such attrocities. I've read of at least 4 such prisoner deaths that were labelled as deaths. I'm sure it's safe to say that 4 is a small representative number of what's really happening.