Poll

Which of These Persons Could Solve the Middle East Conflict?

Jesus33%33% - 27
Ghandi3%3% - 3
Hitler15%15% - 12
George Washington2%2% - 2
Alexander2%2% - 2
Genghis Khan8%8% - 7
Muhammad8%8% - 7
Stalin11%11% - 9
Julius Caesar2%2% - 2
Other11%11% - 9
Total: 80
J][gga
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ghettoperson wrote:

Wow. For a forum where everyone appears to hate religion, Jesus was a surprisingly popular choice.
Hypocrites spotted!!!!

Medic!!!
SysTray
"Generous mods" < Thats right Systray !
+180|7078|Delaware
Muhammad would be the only person that could solve it. As an Arab holy man he could try and preach new ways of resolving religion issues to the Muslims in the Middle East area. It has already been proven that war is not going to solve the problem, and no man from another religion is going to do anything about it.

Muhammad is the only guy on that list that stands a chance.
IRONCHEF
Member
+385|6748|Northern California
Jesus.  And it's not a joke choice.  In fact, it will be Jesus who difuses all the middle east warfare...along with all the world warfare.  The sky will part, everyone on the earth will see him at once, EVERY knee will bow, EVERY tongue confess that he is the christ (even Cameron Poe), and then those who can abide his presense will stay on earth for 1000 years while those who cannot abide his presense will leave their bodies here and sit around waiting for 1000 years to end before they get judged.  Good clean fun if you ask me!
hurricane2oo5
Do One Ya Mug !!!
+176|7021|mansfield
we should blow up the middle east and make a big water park , with big slides and wave pools and shit !!

Last edited by hurricane2oo5 (2006-11-01 13:10:36)

tjm0264
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+0|6650|Downingtown,PA
No one can solve the problem.  It is an example (rather small in the grand scheme of things) of how the human species is designed to be violent towards one another.  Just as you can't make a pig fly, you can't make people get along.  We are historically going to fight.  Period. 

We have:  Jealousy, greed, and religion...the cornerstones of violence.  Makes you wish you were a dog!!!!
IRONCHEF
Member
+385|6748|Northern California

SysTray wrote:

Muhammad would be the only person that could solve it. As an Arab holy man he could try and preach new ways of resolving religion issues to the Muslims in the Middle East area. It has already been proven that war is not going to solve the problem, and no man from another religion is going to do anything about it.

Muhammad is the only guy on that list that stands a chance.
Nah, he'll come, straighten out the doctrinal interpretations being skewed every which way between the psychos and those who understand things correctly, and the psychos will have been too comfortable with their warfaring ways and continue in them.  Just being corrected in their poor doctrinal estimates won't change them, neither having their founder there, though some will chill out because of that.

But this is also assuming Mohammed is a pacifist and would permit Israel to coexist.  If Mohammed is as the fundamentalists presume, then the warfare will escalate.
tjm0264
Member
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No one is helping us...we are stuck on this planet by ourselves.  There is no saviour
SysTray
"Generous mods" < Thats right Systray !
+180|7078|Delaware

IRONCHEF wrote:

SysTray wrote:

Muhammad would be the only person that could solve it. As an Arab holy man he could try and preach new ways of resolving religion issues to the Muslims in the Middle East area. It has already been proven that war is not going to solve the problem, and no man from another religion is going to do anything about it.

Muhammad is the only guy on that list that stands a chance.
Nah, he'll come, straighten out the doctrinal interpretations being skewed every which way between the psychos and those who understand things correctly, and the psychos will have been too comfortable with their warfaring ways and continue in them.  Just being corrected in their poor doctrinal estimates won't change them, neither having their founder there, though some will chill out because of that.

But this is also assuming Mohammed is a pacifist and would permit Israel to coexist.  If Mohammed is as the fundamentalists presume, then the warfare will escalate.
As far as I know, though, he doesn't have to come and fix the present. If he rethinks the way Islam is constructed and talks with Allah back in his time, the War does not happen now. Quite simple, really. If they don't start the warfare, they can't get used to it.

Last edited by SysTray (2006-11-01 13:19:01)

Ryan86th
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tupac ftw!
DesertFox-
The very model of a modern major general
+796|6942|United States of America
If Jesus came back and proved himself, it'd show both sides that they're the wrong religions.
SysTray
"Generous mods" < Thats right Systray !
+180|7078|Delaware

DesertFox423 wrote:

If Jesus came back and proved himself, it'd show both sides that they're the wrong religions.
Any religious figure coming back and proving themselves defeats the whole purpose of religion anyway. Religion is based on faith, and you are rewarded for your faith by gaining eternal life in whatever happy land your religion gives you after death. If you have to be proven that same religious figure exists it damns you anyway...I think. (except Buddhism, which I have found to be one of the greatest teachings of all time)
Agent_Dung_Bomb
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+302|6993|Salt Lake City

Jebus is too busy playing BF2 to be bothered with this shit.

Enemy heretic spotted! 

Last edited by Agent_Dung_Bomb (2006-11-01 13:33:56)

IRONCHEF
Member
+385|6748|Northern California

SysTray wrote:

DesertFox423 wrote:

If Jesus came back and proved himself, it'd show both sides that they're the wrong religions.
Any religious figure coming back and proving themselves defeats the whole purpose of religion anyway. Religion is based on faith, and you are rewarded for your faith by gaining eternal life in whatever happy land your religion gives you after death. If you have to be proven that same religious figure exists it damns you anyway...I think. (except Buddhism, which I have found to be one of the greatest teachings of all time)
Actually, In most sects of Christianity, Faith is the first principle of the gospel..not the only one.  Those who have had personal visits with Jesus are those who have received a 'calling and election made sure' or 'the second comforter' and therefore no longer require faith.  The purpose of faith is to test and try people so as to refine them and perfect them.  Upon receiving the reward of exercising one's faith, it is stronger.  Eventually you will reach a degree of faith when you have a perfect knowledge...or as in scriptural reference, He (the Lord) can no longer be held from your view.

Also, as for "proving themselves," I think that it wouldn't be necessary..because after all, you did come back.  Of course, Jesus will divide the sky open and come down in Glory with numberless angels and hosts of heaven so there won't be anything to prove.  THere will just be alot of silence and alot of "but, but...but...i was told the Bible was a joke!" lol
SysTray
"Generous mods" < Thats right Systray !
+180|7078|Delaware

IRONCHEF wrote:

Actually, In most sects of Christianity, Faith is the first principle of the gospel..not the only one.  Those who have had personal visits with Jesus are those who have received a 'calling and election made sure' or 'the second comforter' and therefore no longer require faith.  The purpose of faith is to test and try people so as to refine them and perfect them.  Upon receiving the reward of exercising one's faith, it is stronger.  Eventually you will reach a degree of faith when you have a perfect knowledge...or as in scriptural reference, He (the Lord) can no longer be held from your view.

Also, as for "proving themselves," I think that it wouldn't be necessary..because after all, you did come back.  Of course, Jesus will divide the sky open and come down in Glory with numberless angels and hosts of heaven so there won't be anything to prove.  THere will just be alot of silence and alot of "but, but...but...i was told the Bible was a joke!" lol
Well anyone can look like Jesus and say they are. Especially if they are speaking to someone of non-Christian faith, who will know the difference?

As for the correct definition of faith in this case, I am personally not hardcore religious so I wouldn't know all of the stuff you just enlightened me about.
IRONCHEF
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I was just pointing out that if Jesus showed up, the "way" he's prophesied to, there won't be any doubt from ANYONE on the planet who he is.

GunSlinger OIF II
Banned.
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you could say the same thing about Zeus
Marconius
One-eyed Wonder Mod
+368|6951|San Francisco
The Flying Spaghetti Monster will come down and touch everyone with His noodley appendage, and all will be saved and forgiven.  So sayeth He that looks down upon us from the Great Pasta Bowl.

I'm still sticking to my Saddam Hussein answer.
Masques
Black Panzer Party
+184|6979|Eastern PA

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

you could say the same thing about Zeus
Only if he was exactly like the Samuel L. Jackson character from Die Hard III. That'd be rad.

PEACE MOTHERFUCKERS, CAN YOU ACHIEVE IT?!
CameronPoe
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-=RD=-Volx
Naughty_Om
Im Ron Burgundy?
+355|6890|USA
This is why jesus can solve all of our problems

Naughty_Om
Im Ron Burgundy?
+355|6890|USA
Yea, so jesus's powers were a bit overrated ^^^^^
Stingray24
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Hmm, healing the sick, giving sight to the blind, turning water to wine, walking on water, calming the sea, raising the dead, feeding 5,000 + with 12 loaves of bread and fish, casting out demons, and finally raising from the dead etc.  Overrated?  I think not.
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6908|USA
none..........since the ME has been at war during the life times of all these people and the problems were not resolved.........but of course........it is 60 year old Israel's fault
Tetrino
International OMGWTFBBQ
+200|6988|Uhh... erm...
Although I'm a Muslim, I think Jesus (Islam equivalent is Isa) would have a better chance than Muhammad. He would be acknowledged by the Jews and Muslims. But the Jews might not recognise Muhammad as a peaceful man, seeing as how the extremists are acting today, and refuse his teachings.

But in any case, Muhammad has passed on, peace be upon Him. Isa is raised to the skies, and he will descend when we're all going to die.

It's a pity I won't be around then to see him in person.
Naughty_Om
Im Ron Burgundy?
+355|6890|USA

Stingray24 wrote:

Hmm, healing the sick, giving sight to the blind, turning water to wine, walking on water, calming the sea, raising the dead, feeding 5,000 + with 12 loaves of bread and fish, casting out demons, and finally raising from the dead etc.  Overrated?  I think not.
Just watch the clip i posted above. im cracking a joke genius.

***********Edit add in************

here is the clip im talkin about

Last edited by Naughty_Om (2006-11-01 18:52:23)

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