Is he really banned-for ever as his title claims?ghettoperson wrote:
What exactly was it that Ikarti posted?
Whats true of shrimp cocktails is true of all cocktails. Always in moderation.
the same applies to forums.
the same applies to forums.
A few things all of you have overlooked:
1. This is a privately owned website, forum and server. They can do what they want, when they want and to who they want. Chuy could wake up and ban everyone and burn the website down if he wanted to, but he doesn't.
2. The moderators here are extremely mild compared to a few other forums I've visited. If any of us had pulled half the shit we have pulled here anywhere else, we would have been perma banned/deleted account/IP ban all at once.
3. This forum is free for you. It costs you nothing to visit this site, stats page, or forums unless you want to donate. Who the fuck are we to be bitching about how they run their house? Now, criticism is something all together, but this 6 pages of whining about this and that is pathetic.
4. Shut the fuck up.
1. This is a privately owned website, forum and server. They can do what they want, when they want and to who they want. Chuy could wake up and ban everyone and burn the website down if he wanted to, but he doesn't.
2. The moderators here are extremely mild compared to a few other forums I've visited. If any of us had pulled half the shit we have pulled here anywhere else, we would have been perma banned/deleted account/IP ban all at once.
3. This forum is free for you. It costs you nothing to visit this site, stats page, or forums unless you want to donate. Who the fuck are we to be bitching about how they run their house? Now, criticism is something all together, but this 6 pages of whining about this and that is pathetic.
4. Shut the fuck up.
QFT.Cougar wrote:
A few things all of you have overlooked:
1. This is a privately owned website, forum and server. They can do what they want, when they want and to who they want. Chuy could wake up and ban everyone and burn the website down if he wanted to, but he doesn't.
2. The moderators here are extremely mild compared to a few other forums I've visited. If any of us had pulled half the shit we have pulled here anywhere else, we would have been perma banned/deleted account/IP ban all at once.
3. This forum is free for you. It costs you nothing to visit this site, stats page, or forums unless you want to donate. Who the fuck are we to be bitching about how they run their house? Now, criticism is something all together, but this 6 pages of whining about this and that is pathetic.
4. Shut the fuck up.
QFT againBigmacK wrote:
QFT.Cougar wrote:
A few things all of you have overlooked:
1. This is a privately owned website, forum and server. They can do what they want, when they want and to who they want. Chuy could wake up and ban everyone and burn the website down if he wanted to, but he doesn't.
2. The moderators here are extremely mild compared to a few other forums I've visited. If any of us had pulled half the shit we have pulled here anywhere else, we would have been perma banned/deleted account/IP ban all at once.
3. This forum is free for you. It costs you nothing to visit this site, stats page, or forums unless you want to donate. Who the fuck are we to be bitching about how they run their house? Now, criticism is something all together, but this 6 pages of whining about this and that is pathetic.
4. Shut the fuck up.
11 year olds shouldn't be registered on this forum in the first place. Ever heard of COPPA? Websites can't collect info from users who are younger than 13. That's why sites like GameFAQs ban you for being underage user, because they can get legal ramifications for it.zimmer92 wrote:
Edit - Bring Ikarti back? After having less common sense than a sloth? Yeah sure.
Ikarti was stupid, common sense stupid, not mentally. When you post such pictures argue about such problems on a forum where THERE ARE 11 YEAR OLDS online everyday, then there is no hope for you. He made that decision, by posting horrific pictures that would disturb a kid for ever. They were horrific, I saw them. And what are you going to tell me now? "He should have never looked then". Well my dear friend, I say Bullshit to that. Kids have so much curiosity about the world you cannot stop them from doing such things. When was the first time you loked at porn? Think about that. Exactly my point. There are parents on these forums as well, and I dont think they would want thir kids going on here and seeing those pictures or reading some of the inulting messages, before you post something mature/insultive/disturbing, think about the kids on these forums and how they would see it.
As for bans. If you honestly think it was unjust, tell a mod. But if it's decided to stay, then stfu and leave. You evidently aren't wanted by the people who run the site, so why the fuck should you be here?
Also, people saying "freedom of speech"... that doesn't apply to private things. That's why sites can moderate freely. If freedom of speech applied to everything, then the ACLU would have a field day with suing all sorts of forums (such as this one) for "infringing on rights". But since web owners are free to do as they please (consider it that this site is the mod and admin's home, and you're guests there. The mods and admins have the right to kick you, the guest and user, out of this home.), bans are given out based on overall things. Sure, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but if someone posts flames about any group of people and nasty images, that wouldn't be in the interests of the site admins and said user would receive ramifications. Again with the house analogy... if you crap on someone's couch, maybe one guy will consider it funny but if the owners don't like it, they have every right to give you the boot. And likewise, you can ask the person "hey dude I was just jokin around, can you let me back in?" they might say yes. But if they say no, unless you're psychotic you'll just get over it and leave instead of breaking through their front window.
Props to Cougar for laying it down nicely.
STFU, Your high on all that karma. . .Cougar wrote:
A few things all of you have overlooked:
1. This is a privately owned website, forum and server. They can do what they want, when they want and to who they want. Chuy could wake up and ban everyone and burn the website down if he wanted to, but he doesn't.
2. The moderators here are extremely mild compared to a few other forums I've visited. If any of us had pulled half the shit we have pulled here anywhere else, we would have been perma banned/deleted account/IP ban all at once.
3. This forum is free for you. It costs you nothing to visit this site, stats page, or forums unless you want to donate. Who the fuck are we to be bitching about how they run their house? Now, criticism is something all together, but this 6 pages of whining about this and that is pathetic.
4. Shut the fuck up.
Me amused by this thread.
So True, So Very True, .Cougar wrote:
A few things all of you have overlooked:
1. This is a privately owned website, forum and server. They can do what they want, when they want and to who they want. Chuy could wake up and ban everyone and burn the website down if he wanted to, but he doesn't.
2. The moderators here are extremely mild compared to a few other forums I've visited. If any of us had pulled half the shit we have pulled here anywhere else, we would have been perma banned/deleted account/IP ban all at once.
3. This forum is free for you. It costs you nothing to visit this site, stats page, or forums unless you want to donate. Who the fuck are we to be bitching about how they run their house? Now, criticism is something all together, but this 6 pages of whining about this and that is pathetic.
4. Shut the fuck up.
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Good man Cougar!
You missed the point, like a lot of people who've posted in this thread have.aardfrith wrote:
If you want the funny crap and humorous responses, stay out of the "debate and serious talk" sub-forum because, from the title, that stuff doesn't belong there. IIRC it was created because people wanted to talk about the serious stuff in their lives.Deadman wrote:
I think a mod can do whatever they like.
This is just a game forum remember, irrespective of the sub-forum title. I think the 'debate and serious talk' sub-forum is totaly abused by a lot of people. This should be a fun place to come, where people post all kind of funny crap and get humorous reponses. Not flamed by kids who are trying to be someone they're not.
I'm sure there are many serious forums dedicated to the political/social/racial and whatever other personal issues you might have.
I just wish people would lighten up. phew....
Why would you come to game forum to talk serious & political stuff? Go to a forum where they are dedicated to those specific issues, because here, on a game forum you only have a bunch of kids arguing with each other, it's laughable. Nearly every topic in the 'debate and serious talk' turns into utter rubbish, nobody sounds old enough to hold a serious debate, thats very clear (except a couple). It's the kind of talk i hear in the school yard when i drop my kids off at school.
Seriously, is a game forum your only outlet for your personel issues? See a shrink and get a life.
I'm not directing this at you aardfrith.
So, lets close the D&ST section altogether???Deadman wrote:
Why would you come to game forum to talk serious & political stuff? Go to a forum where they are dedicated to those specific issues, because here, on a game forum you only have a bunch of kids arguing with each other, it's laughable. Nearly every topic in the 'debate and serious talk' turns into utter rubbish, nobody sounds old enough to hold a serious debate, thats very clear (except a couple). It's the kind of talk i hear in the school yard when i drop my kids off at school.
Seriously, is a game forum your only outlet for your personel issues? See a shrink and get a life.
I'm not directing this at you aardfrith.
I must say that I disagree with you about the level of debate that we have here. The issues are diverse and you can choose what you want to participate in. If (when) a debate goes sideways, there is a great system in place to calm it down, thanks to Chuy and our active mods.
For me (and hopefully for others as well) its no outlet for personal issues, but more of a place for quality leisure.
ATG wrote:
Me amused by this thread.
It was also claimed that he was banned for repeatedly bashing Israel. Is this true?
Well maybe, but not necessarilly.SpaceApollyon wrote:
So, lets close the D&ST section altogether???
By the very nature of a game forum, it's going to attract young people. So the debates are obviously going to turn the way they do, nothing wrong with that I suppose. But you shouldn't be surprised when someone post seriously offensive material to try and make a point, what do you expect?
Rules? Well they go out the window when things get heated because most people get so frustrated trying to make you see there point of view they'll do anything, theres actually no point in moderating it at all. It's inviting people to play with fire, then banning them for getting burned.
So either except what goes on in D&ST forum, or do away with it.
I'd rather do away with it as it's just a source of friction and hatred, whats the point of that on a game forum?
I have 2 kids who are older than some people who post here, so perhaps I'm seeing it from the wrong perspective.
I recognize where you are coming from, but for me the D&ST is much more good than bad. I'm a relatively new poster here, but Ive been a reader for quite some time. Every time I have seen a personal attack or other offensiveness, it has been promptly removed by mods. Certainly its not just friction and hatred.Deadman wrote:
I'd rather do away with it as it's just a source of friction and hatred, whats the point of that on a game forum?
Ive had a look through the people who are saying "this is a game forum go somewhere else if you want to debate"............. "close the D&ST" post history and you ppl don't post here. Is it because you are frustrated and want to kill what you don't understand? Is it because we talk about other things than, "OMFG you haxtoor" or "rate my stats" So if you are not inclined or possibly intelligent enough to discuss the workings of the real world, not just "OMG I got a new badge" then click 'index' above and stay way. This reminds me of the Geeks and Jocks shit, lol.
Cougar : QFT
You're dead right! +1 for you!SpaceApollyon wrote:
I recognize where you are coming from, but for me the D&ST is much more good than bad.
Though we often get worked up about issues which most of us don't have to deal with face to face, its a good place to be exposed to another view...if we have the sort of mindset that allows us to take a moment to consider whether that commie pinko liberal or that oil-guzzling neocon actually has a point, this place will do us some good, despite all the arguing and bitching that goes on!
Approach your idealogical enemies with a sword in one hand, and an open mind in the other.
Right on, Pubic. Those of you who think D&ST is of a low level probably don't take the time to read through what people have to say. Of course you 'll encounter some pretty dumb stuff from time to time, but the way I see it, that's not something you can avoid in any other forum. There's plenty of trolls to go around anywhere you look on the internet... the art is to learn to avoid confrontation with them.Pubic wrote:
Though we often get worked up about issues which most of us don't have to deal with face to face, its a good place to be exposed to another view...if we have the sort of mindset that allows us to take a moment to consider whether that commie pinko liberal or that oil-guzzling neocon actually has a point, this place will do us some good, despite all the arguing and bitching that goes on!
Approach your idealogical enemies with a sword in one hand, and an open mind in the other.
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QFT.Pubic wrote:
Though we often get worked up about issues which most of us don't have to deal with face to face, its a good place to be exposed to another view...if we have the sort of mindset that allows us to take a moment to consider whether that commie pinko liberal or that oil-guzzling neocon actually has a point, this place will do us some good, despite all the arguing and bitching that goes on!
Approach your idealogical enemies with a sword in one hand, and an open mind in the other.
PS: vote for me http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?id=51258.
I think the ranting and moaning has gone on long enough.
Need....to....put....an.....end....to.....it.
Thank you Cougar.
Closed
Need....to....put....an.....end....to.....it.
Thank you Cougar.
Closed
Just wanted to say, I love youCougar wrote:
A few things all of you have overlooked:
1. This is a privately owned website, forum and server. They can do what they want, when they want and to who they want. Chuy could wake up and ban everyone and burn the website down if he wanted to, but he doesn't.
2. The moderators here are extremely mild compared to a few other forums I've visited. If any of us had pulled half the shit we have pulled here anywhere else, we would have been perma banned/deleted account/IP ban all at once.
3. This forum is free for you. It costs you nothing to visit this site, stats page, or forums unless you want to donate. Who the fuck are we to be bitching about how they run their house? Now, criticism is something all together, but this 6 pages of whining about this and that is pathetic.
4. Shut the fuck up.
well, I am obviuosly a bit late to respond, but since I was away from the forums for a good 8 weeks, please have mercy on me.
1.) I'll second what Cougar has said
2.) I think that mods on bf2s.com behave very well. Power abuse is very rare, and every single time I can remember the specific incident was discussed among the mods and admins and corrective action was taken whenever necessary. I think the current system works just fine. If I remember correctly, Chuy even removed two mods from the forums for improper behaviour against forum members.
1.) I'll second what Cougar has said
2.) I think that mods on bf2s.com behave very well. Power abuse is very rare, and every single time I can remember the specific incident was discussed among the mods and admins and corrective action was taken whenever necessary. I think the current system works just fine. If I remember correctly, Chuy even removed two mods from the forums for improper behaviour against forum members.