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2006-10-28 13:11:51
Stingray24
Proud member of the vast right-wing conspiracy
+1,060|6591|The Land of Scott Walker

bogo24dk wrote:

im_in_heaven wrote:

The land is israel's not palestine. Look at ooooold maps. The end.
If you really knew the history you wouldn't comment. The jews never had a land. They had to occupy one from the Canaanites.
Good, there's no Canaanites running around, so Israel does have the longest claim to the land.  The end. Yay! 

Superior military technology?  Look through these and see if there's any you'd like.
http://www.israeli-weapons.com/israeli_weapons.html

And I'd like an Uzi please. 
http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapons/ … i/Uzi.html
And maybe a Galil, too. 
http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapons/ … Galil.html
Or one of these: 
http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapons/ … Tavor.html
2006-10-28 13:17:14
CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|6701

Stingray24 wrote:

bogo24dk wrote:

im_in_heaven wrote:

The land is israel's not palestine. Look at ooooold maps. The end.
If you really knew the history you wouldn't comment. The jews never had a land. They had to occupy one from the Canaanites.
Good, there's no Canaanites running around, so Israel does have the longest claim to the land.  The end. Yay! 

Superior military technology?  Look through these and see if there's any you'd like.
http://www.israeli-weapons.com/israeli_weapons.html

And I'd like an Uzi please. 
http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapons/ … i/Uzi.html
And maybe a Galil, too. 
http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapons/ … Galil.html
Or one of these: 
http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapons/ … Tavor.html
LOL. You thınk the Canaanıtes dısappeared? You thınk Palestınıans magıcked out of thın aır ın the year 600? Please....

Nıce lınks - that's about all Israel ıs good for: makıng and perfectıng ıtems that expedıte the deaths of others ın a super-effıcıent manner. Pat on the back for Israel.

Last edited by CameronPoe (2006-10-28 13:20:17)

2006-10-28 13:18:42
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6727|SE London

Stingray24 wrote:

bogo24dk wrote:

im_in_heaven wrote:

The land is israel's not palestine. Look at ooooold maps. The end.
If you really knew the history you wouldn't comment. The jews never had a land. They had to occupy one from the Canaanites.
Good, there's no Canaanites running around, so Israel does have the longest claim to the land.  The end. Yay! 

Superior military technology?  Look through these and see if there's any you'd like.
http://www.israeli-weapons.com/israeli_weapons.html

And I'd like an Uzi please. 
http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapons/ … i/Uzi.html
And maybe a Galil, too. 
http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapons/ … Galil.html
Or one of these: 
http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapons/ … Tavor.html
Ever heard of the Philistines?

Palestinians.
2006-10-28 13:45:58
mafia996630
© 2009 Jeff Minard
+319|6910|d

Stingray24 wrote:

bogo24dk wrote:

im_in_heaven wrote:

The land is israel's not palestine. Look at ooooold maps. The end.
If you really knew the history you wouldn't comment. The jews never had a land. They had to occupy one from the Canaanites.
Good, there's no Canaanites running around, so Israel does have the longest claim to the land.  The end. Yay! 

Superior military technology?  Look through these and see if there's any you'd like.
http://www.israeli-weapons.com/israeli_weapons.html

And I'd like an Uzi please. 
http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapons/ … i/Uzi.html
And maybe a Galil, too. 
http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapons/ … Galil.html
Or one of these: 
http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapons/ … Tavor.html
And they still got pwned by Hezbullah.LOL

(DEJA VU)
2006-10-28 14:02:31
JaggedPanther
Member
+61|6620
Why can't Palestine live in peace with Isreal??


It's like saying lets give 3/4 of texas to communist china or NK and see if both can live in peace.

They were pushed out and for some reason; Didn't like it.

Last edited by JaggedPanther (2006-10-28 14:04:21)

2006-10-28 14:04:46
Stealth42o
She looked 18 to me officer
+175|6818
Two word, Land and religion.

They have been fighting for last last few thousand years, if by some miracle (No pun intended) we are around in two thousand more years, you can guarantee they will still be fighting.  Unless on side decides to give up there land and convert religion (Hell would freeze over first)!.
2006-10-28 14:16:23
Stingray24
Proud member of the vast right-wing conspiracy
+1,060|6591|The Land of Scott Walker

Bertster7 wrote:

Ever heard of the Philistines?

Palestinians.
Yup.  From what I've gathered, they wandered, at the beginning of the 12th century BC, from their homeland in southern Greece and the Aegean islands to the shores of the Mediterranean.  Correct?
2006-10-28 15:11:02
Lisik
Member
+74|6647|Israel

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

Uzis are Israeli made, not American
see also....

https://www.whitefalcon.13pixelchen.de/markings_6.jpg
2006-10-28 15:33:27
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6727|SE London

Stingray24 wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

Ever heard of the Philistines?

Palestinians.
Yup.  From what I've gathered, they wandered, at the beginning of the 12th century BC, from their homeland in southern Greece and the Aegean islands to the shores of the Mediterranean.  Correct?
...And the Jews immigrated into Canaan when? Was it the 12th century BC - I think so. Palestinians can trace their ancestry to the Philistines as well as the Caananites.

The Jews and the Arabs are much more closely linked than many people seem to believe. The biblical definition of an Arab is a son of Ishmael, whereas Jews are sons of Isaac - Abrahams two sons. Trying to go back into history to claim the Jews have a right to the land really doesn't work. The disputes over modern day Israel go back more than 5000 years.
2006-10-28 16:05:41
Ratzinger
Member
+43|6538|Wollongong, NSW, Australia
FFS that's the point, thousands of years arguing about what colour hat some mythical being wants you to wear.

Civilisation, shit there's an idea, let's get some, we should be over that delusionary crap by now.....
2006-10-28 17:46:31
BattlefieldMedic
Member
+25|6747|Sydney City, THE city.

Bubbalo wrote:

BattlefieldMedic wrote:

Israel sells highly superior Military Technology
Such as?
Have a read of this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_Def … technology
You may also scroll down to read up about Israeli Nuclear Technology.

You may also begin to claim that al of that stuff is American made. Such as the "M4A1 assault rifle, F-15 Eagle and F-16 Fighting Falcon jets and Apache helicopter" (copied from my link). But its whats inside those F-16's that Americans are buying.
I have a cousin, commanding a tank on the border between Israeli territory and the Israel-Lebanon no mans land. He isn't exactly allowed to tell me the technology within his tank but he explained to me, that tanks in the army are advanced enough that they can work out [if faced by an attack from two enemy tanks] which one is the weaker one, or which poses the greatest threat, presently. It automatically seeks out the tanks weakest points, aims automatically (so that human mistakes are removed from the equation and replaced by computer precision) and just asks for a promt from the tank commander to fire. Crew loads the shell in, tanks fires.

And ever so slightly off topic, have a read of this. I found it interesting while I was borwsing around the net for a link:
http://www.pakdef.info/forum/showpost.p … ostcount=4

EDIT: Spelling.

Last edited by BattlefieldMedic (2006-10-28 17:52:40)

2006-10-28 18:11:33
sarge_3rdE
Member
+0|6706
so your saying that Israel makes the best aimbots in the world....cool

At least isreali's dont go blowing themselves up and thinking it is the right and good thing to do...

EDIT: Editing is fun!!

Last edited by sarge_3rdE (2006-10-28 18:24:34)

2006-10-28 18:25:45
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6551|North Carolina

Bertster7 wrote:

Stingray24 wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

Ever heard of the Philistines?

Palestinians.
Yup.  From what I've gathered, they wandered, at the beginning of the 12th century BC, from their homeland in southern Greece and the Aegean islands to the shores of the Mediterranean.  Correct?
...And the Jews immigrated into Canaan when? Was it the 12th century BC - I think so. Palestinians can trace their ancestry to the Philistines as well as the Caananites.

The Jews and the Arabs are much more closely linked than many people seem to believe. The biblical definition of an Arab is a son of Ishmael, whereas Jews are sons of Isaac - Abrahams two sons. Trying to go back into history to claim the Jews have a right to the land really doesn't work. The disputes over modern day Israel go back more than 5000 years.
True... but.... Isn't it time both sides stopped warring and worked out some kind of agreement?  As long as both sides intend on killing each other, the Israelis will continue to win.  Regardless of why they have so much power, they have the ability to keep the Palestinians oppressed and poor.  As long as extremists attack them, they don't have much motivation to aid the Palestinians.

Last edited by Turquoise (2006-10-28 18:26:00)

2006-10-28 19:00:12
im_in_heaven
Member
+27|6734
Well, This war is ONLY a religious war contrary to common belief. Palestinians want Jerusalem so they can put up a mosque on the mount of olives. Well the bible says that Jesus will return to the mount of olives but the muslims want that same mountain for their mosque and says its theres for their "returning messiah". Well NEWS TO THE MUSLIMS your religion is brand new compared to Christianity so get another mountain outside of jerusalem you trouble makers!
2006-10-28 19:20:15
BattlefieldMedic
Member
+25|6747|Sydney City, THE city.

sarge_3rdE wrote:

so your saying that Israel makes the best aimbots in the world.
I couldn'tve put it better myself.
2006-10-28 19:24:31
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6551|North Carolina

im_in_heaven wrote:

Well, This war is ONLY a religious war contrary to common belief. Palestinians want Jerusalem so they can put up a mosque on the mount of olives. Well the bible says that Jesus will return to the mount of olives but the muslims want that same mountain for their mosque and says its theres for their "returning messiah". Well NEWS TO THE MUSLIMS your religion is brand new compared to Christianity so get another mountain outside of jerusalem you trouble makers!
It's not that simple.  In fact, your reasoning is very much like that of the Palestinians.  This war is truly about land and economics.  Religious dogma is the cover for both sides, but the people pulling the strings just want revenge.
2006-10-28 19:55:06
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6707

Stingray24 wrote:

Superior military technology?  Look through these and see if there's any you'd like.
http://www.israeli-weapons.com/israeli_weapons.html
Oooh, wow, assault rifles!  The US would certainly do anything possible to get those, despite the fact that American forces use US made weapons like the M16 and M4.

Try again.
2006-10-28 20:55:32
im_in_heaven
Member
+27|6734

Turquoise wrote:

im_in_heaven wrote:

Well, This war is ONLY a religious war contrary to common belief. Palestinians want Jerusalem so they can put up a mosque on the mount of olives. Well the bible says that Jesus will return to the mount of olives but the muslims want that same mountain for their mosque and says its theres for their "returning messiah". Well NEWS TO THE MUSLIMS your religion is brand new compared to Christianity so get another mountain outside of jerusalem you trouble makers!
It's not that simple.  In fact, your reasoning is very much like that of the Palestinians.  This war is truly about land and economics.  Religious dogma is the cover for both sides, but the people pulling the strings just want revenge.
And it is that simple. Economics has nothign to do with it.  Land and religion is the theme here. Very good quote by donald trump. " If the palestinians stopped concentrating and using all their resources on trying to eliminate the Israeli race they wouldnt be a 3rd world country and so far behind in the world." WoW the end.
2006-10-28 21:10:14
TuataraDude
Member
+115|6669|Aotearoa
The trouble is, the land has religious significance to both sides. Both sides also feel they will be offending God or Allah if they let someone else have it. Centuries ago, it was about having the most fertile land in the area that wasn't run by the Egyptians, then it became religious as they fought for it in their deity's name. The really sad thing is, most Jews and most Palestinians are good people and would love to be able to live together in peace (for goodness' sake, they managed it before the Crusaders came along) but there are nutters on both sides that keep fueling the fire. And while I hate to add this, the west does not help with our reliance on oil. The moment there is peace in the Middle East, countries like Iran and Iraq will not spend nearly as much as they do/did on war and become a real economic power. They already have a lot of clout, but imagine if they had it despite all the oil. They would give China a run for their money as the eventual dominant race on the planet.
2006-10-28 22:11:00
BattlefieldMedic
Member
+25|6747|Sydney City, THE city.

Bubbalo wrote:

Stingray24 wrote:

Superior military technology?  Look through these and see if there's any you'd like.
http://www.israeli-weapons.com/israeli_weapons.html
Oooh, wow, assault rifles!  The US would certainly do anything possible to get those, despite the fact that American forces use US made weapons like the M16 and M4.

Try again.
Funny how you click on what you chose to click on- just to support your argument. Did you fail to see all the images and links surrounding the "Small Arms" link? Or do you have a slow internet connection?
2006-10-28 22:13:47
Anfidurl
Use the bumper, that's what its for!
+103|6739|Lexington, Kentucky
Sorry for being late to the party.

But it's really quite simple. Israel and Palestine are essentially doing what children have done for centuries.
One used to have the toy, then another one took it, and the first one took it back again under dubious circumstances. Now they are fighting, and only their mutual parent (in this case God/Allah?) can solve it.
Probably by smiting them both.
2006-10-28 22:16:28
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6707
I had a quick look at tanks, all of which were based on the old Sherman design, and aircraft, all of which were UAVs.  He provided a number of links to small arms.  If there's something else there that's unique to Israel, and worth all the effort the US is going to, he can find it and point it out to me.
2006-10-28 22:37:17
BattlefieldMedic
Member
+25|6747|Sydney City, THE city.
Alright then, no heat.

Anywho, I'd also like to point out what is quite possibly underneath Israeli land. Just like in America, there are many a underground bases, hidden from enemy view, where some of the most advanced technology is made and researched. For example, on that website, all they show is Sherman tanks, lol. I doubt that a small state surrounded by a common enemy will deem it sufficient to defend itself with a few Sherman Tanks. Even on the news, they show things more advanced than that. ...Strange website...

Last edited by BattlefieldMedic (2006-10-28 22:41:50)

2006-10-28 23:40:34
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6707
They don't just use Sherman tanks: they use tanks from Europe and the US.
2006-10-28 23:55:19
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,053|6918|PNW

Bubbalo wrote:

They don't just use Sherman tanks: they use tanks from Europe and the US.
Wouldn't it be awesome to design a state-of-the-art tank that looked just like a Sherman...but in that it can shoot projectiles out of the air and cook up curly-fries en masse?

 

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