It doesn't make the Palestinian cause any less valid or correct. They're both guilty of crimes - I don't get hung up on the severity when both have already let their morals drop through the floor.Phantom2828 wrote:
Its called a metaphor.CameronPoe wrote:
LOL. Hilarious. Since when does 'mugging' involve killing men, women and children (among other Israeli crimes)?Phantom2828 wrote:
Israel crimes = mugging someone.
Palestinian crimes = murdering kids
The number and severity of Palestinian crimes greatly outweighs Israeli crimes.
You make it seem as if Israelis march through streets and kill Palestinians left and right. You seem to forget that Israelis do everything they can to prevent civilian causality's.
Well if you look at the thread 'The Death Log' we are recording the death tolls on either side for the perusal of all. It will be pretty telling after a month or two I'm betting. The Israelis are ahead by a landslide at the moment.Phantom2828 wrote:
You make it seem as if Israelis march through streets and kill Palestinians left and right. You seem to forget that Israelis do everything they can to prevent civilian causality's.
PS Many of the reports on the thread I mentioned come from your beloved Haaretz newspaper to demonstrate that it's not propaganda.
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What is Haaretz newspaper?
Yeah as I am sure you know but overlook, its extremely hard to avoid killing civilians when terrorists are launching rockets from apartment buildings and hiding in populated areas and behind people.
You can't seriously believe that terrorists don't want people to die so they can make it into propaganda and put world pressure on Israel to stop the war.
Yeah as I am sure you know but overlook, its extremely hard to avoid killing civilians when terrorists are launching rockets from apartment buildings and hiding in populated areas and behind people.
You can't seriously believe that terrorists don't want people to die so they can make it into propaganda and put world pressure on Israel to stop the war.
Haaretz: Israeli broadsheet newspaper.Phantom2828 wrote:
What is Haaretz newspaper?
Yeah as I am sure you know but overlook, its extremely hard to avoid killing civilians when terrorists are launching rockets from apartment buildings and hiding in populated areas and behind people.
You can't seriously believe that terrorists don't want people to die so they can make it into propaganda and put world pressure on Israel to stop the war.
Hey - using a civilian shield is a perfect tactic in guerrilla warfare. Do you expect them to go stand in a field so the chopper can fire on them with greater ease? LOL
So I guess if we invade Ireland I will expect to see you hide behind your children cam? Oh don't worry its a completely valid tactic.CameronPoe wrote:
Haaretz: Israeli broadsheet newspaper.Phantom2828 wrote:
What is Haaretz newspaper?
Yeah as I am sure you know but overlook, its extremely hard to avoid killing civilians when terrorists are launching rockets from apartment buildings and hiding in populated areas and behind people.
You can't seriously believe that terrorists don't want people to die so they can make it into propaganda and put world pressure on Israel to stop the war.
Hey - using a civilian shield is a perfect tactic in guerrilla warfare. Do you expect them to go stand in a field so the chopper can fire on them with greater ease? LOL
If I was in the IDF I would personaly shoot each and every one of those little pussy's that hide behind children.
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Actually many of the PIRA's footsoldiers were on the younger end of the spectrum. It's the same for most similar groups. Do you honestly expect that the legions of people 25 and under in the US wouldn't take up arms in similar situations?Phantom2828 wrote:
So I guess if we invade Ireland I will expect to see you hide behind your children cam? Oh don't worry its a completely valid tactic.
If I was in the IDF I would personaly shoot each and every one of those little pussy's that hide behind children.
I hope everyone knows that the Palestinians would have to be around 50 to still be pissed at Israel for taking their land. This just proves how they are brainwashed.
Of course I expect them to take up arms but NOT hide behind children in hospitals in populated areas. I also expect them not to shoot kids for propaganda value
Of course I expect them to take up arms but NOT hide behind children in hospitals in populated areas. I also expect them not to shoot kids for propaganda value
How do you think we won our freedom from the UK?? LOLOLOL -> Guerrilla warfare: hiding behind the civilian populace!!! Hahahah. Did you seriously not know? What do you think went on in Northern Ireland as well? LOLPhantom2828 wrote:
So I guess if we invade Ireland I will expect to see you hide behind your children cam? Oh don't worry its a completely valid tactic.CameronPoe wrote:
Haaretz: Israeli broadsheet newspaper.Phantom2828 wrote:
What is Haaretz newspaper?
Yeah as I am sure you know but overlook, its extremely hard to avoid killing civilians when terrorists are launching rockets from apartment buildings and hiding in populated areas and behind people.
You can't seriously believe that terrorists don't want people to die so they can make it into propaganda and put world pressure on Israel to stop the war.
Hey - using a civilian shield is a perfect tactic in guerrilla warfare. Do you expect them to go stand in a field so the chopper can fire on them with greater ease? LOL
If I was in the IDF I would personaly shoot each and every one of those little pussy's that hide behind children.
That's right - you're supposed to forget about recent history... silly me. Somebody stole daddy's house and farm but I don't care - it happened fifty years ago!! LOLPhantom2828 wrote:
I hope everyone knows that the Palestinians would have to be around 50 to still be pissed at Israel for taking their land. This just proves how they are brainwashed.
Of course I expect them to take up arms but NOT hide behind children in hospitals in populated areas. I also expect them not to shoot kids for propaganda value
You are presuming that the Palestinians shoot kids on a regular basis for propaganda, a point not yet proved and pretty difficult to believe on a widespread basis if you ask me.
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Nice job dodging the rest of my post.CameronPoe wrote:
That's right - you're supposed to forget about recent history... silly me. Somebody stole daddy's house and farm but I don't care - it happened fifty years ago!! LOLPhantom2828 wrote:
I hope everyone knows that the Palestinians would have to be around 50 to still be pissed at Israel for taking their land. This just proves how they are brainwashed.
Of course I expect them to take up arms but NOT hide behind children in hospitals in populated areas. I also expect them not to shoot kids for propaganda value
I have YET to see anyone of you Israel haters make up a valid reason why Palestinians hide behind children blows up children hides in populated areas ETC
I would have thought it was pretty obvious why they do:Phantom2828 wrote:
Nice job dodging the rest of my post.CameronPoe wrote:
That's right - you're supposed to forget about recent history... silly me. Somebody stole daddy's house and farm but I don't care - it happened fifty years ago!! LOLPhantom2828 wrote:
I hope everyone knows that the Palestinians would have to be around 50 to still be pissed at Israel for taking their land. This just proves how they are brainwashed.
Of course I expect them to take up arms but NOT hide behind children in hospitals in populated areas. I also expect them not to shoot kids for propaganda value
I have YET to see anyone of you Israel haters make up a valid reason why Palestinians hide behind children blows up children hides in populated areas ETC
1) They're harder to hit.
2) They drag Israel into bombing civilians which is valuable in terms of propaganda.
Standard guerrilla tactics... .your point being?
Besides, there's still no real proof they do that. Just more propaganda.CameronPoe wrote:
I would have thought it was pretty obvious why they do:Phantom2828 wrote:
Nice job dodging the rest of my post.CameronPoe wrote:
That's right - you're supposed to forget about recent history... silly me. Somebody stole daddy's house and farm but I don't care - it happened fifty years ago!! LOL
I have YET to see anyone of you Israel haters make up a valid reason why Palestinians hide behind children blows up children hides in populated areas ETC
1) They're harder to hit.
2) They drag Israel into bombing civilians which is valuable in terms of propaganda.
Standard guerrilla tactics... .your point being?
Wow stupid thing to say.jonsimon wrote:
Cam..................I am not even going to say anything. Read your own post ffs. You call conservatives war mongers with no respect for human life.CameronPoe wrote:
I would have thought it was pretty obvious why they do:Phantom2828 wrote:
Nice job dodging the rest of my post.
I have YET to see anyone of you Israel haters make up a valid reason why Palestinians hide behind children blows up children hides in populated areas ETC
1) They're harder to hit.
2) They drag Israel into bombing civilians which is valuable in terms of propaganda.
Standard guerrilla tactics... .your point being?
Besides, there's still no real proof they do that. Just more propaganda.
You are so sucked in by leftist shit you are learning to dismiss anything that disproves you as propaganda.
Wow Cam just wow.CameronPoe wrote:
I would have thought it was pretty obvious why they do:Phantom2828 wrote:
Nice job dodging the rest of my post.CameronPoe wrote:
That's right - you're supposed to forget about recent history... silly me. Somebody stole daddy's house and farm but I don't care - it happened fifty years ago!! LOL
I have YET to see anyone of you Israel haters make up a valid reason why Palestinians hide behind children blows up children hides in populated areas ETC
1) They're harder to hit.
2) They drag Israel into bombing civilians which is valuable in terms of propaganda.
Standard guerrilla tactics... .your point being?
You call conservatives heartless war mongers look what you just wrote.
That's what it takes to win. My views on war may not be that of a typical liberal. If the cause is just then do everything, bar indiscriminate killing of civilians, to win.Phantom2828 wrote:
Wow Cam just wow.CameronPoe wrote:
I would have thought it was pretty obvious why they do:Phantom2828 wrote:
Nice job dodging the rest of my post.
I have YET to see anyone of you Israel haters make up a valid reason why Palestinians hide behind children blows up children hides in populated areas ETC
1) They're harder to hit.
2) They drag Israel into bombing civilians which is valuable in terms of propaganda.
Standard guerrilla tactics... .your point being?
You call conservatives heartless war mongers look what you just wrote.
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By that logic for us to defeat terrorists its ok to bombs the fuck out of city's killing anyone in it. I believe you just owned yourself Cam. Why don't we just break out the nukes and level all of that shit hole of the middle east killing all the terrorists. Its ok to by your logic we are doing it to win. My god liberals have selective seeing and hearing.CameronPoe wrote:
That's what it takes to win. My views on war may not be that of a typical liberal. If the cause is just then do everything, bar indiscriminate killing of civilians, to win.Phantom2828 wrote:
Wow Cam just wow.CameronPoe wrote:
I would have thought it was pretty obvious why they do:
1) They're harder to hit.
2) They drag Israel into bombing civilians which is valuable in terms of propaganda.
Standard guerrilla tactics... .your point being?
You call conservatives heartless war mongers look what you just wrote.
Why the hell didn't we just level fallujia, Because we didn't want to kill thousands of people. Why didn't we just level Baghdad. Why the hell did we even put troops on the ground if its ok to indiscriminately kill people to win.
Why didn't we just break out the cruise missles.
Because WE have higher standards than those animals we are fighting.
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Can you read english? I specifically stated that indicriminate killing of civilians was NOT OK.Phantom2828 wrote:
By that logic for us to defeat terrorists its ok to bombs the fuck out of city's killing anyone in it. I believe you just owned yourself Cam. Why don't we just break out the nukes and level all of that shit hole of the middle east killing all the terrorists. Its ok to by your logic we are doing it to win. My god liberals have selective seeing and hearing.CameronPoe wrote:
That's what it takes to win. My views on war may not be that of a typical liberal. If the cause is just then do everything, bar indiscriminate killing of civilians, to win.Phantom2828 wrote:
Wow Cam just wow.
You call conservatives heartless war mongers look what you just wrote.
Why the hell didn't we just level fallujia, Because we didn't want to kill thousands of people. Why didn't we just level Baghdad. Why the hell did we even put troops on the ground if its ok to indiscriminately kill people to win.
Why didn't we just break out the cruise missles.
Because WE have higher standards than those animals we are fighting.
O rlyCameronPoe wrote:
Can you read english? I specifically stated that indicriminate killing of civilians was NOT OK.Phantom2828 wrote:
By that logic for us to defeat terrorists its ok to bombs the fuck out of city's killing anyone in it. I believe you just owned yourself Cam. Why don't we just break out the nukes and level all of that shit hole of the middle east killing all the terrorists. Its ok to by your logic we are doing it to win. My god liberals have selective seeing and hearing.CameronPoe wrote:
That's what it takes to win. My views on war may not be that of a typical liberal. If the cause is just then do everything, bar indiscriminate killing of civilians, to win.
Why the hell didn't we just level fallujia, Because we didn't want to kill thousands of people. Why didn't we just level Baghdad. Why the hell did we even put troops on the ground if its ok to indiscriminately kill people to win.
Why didn't we just break out the cruise missles.
Because WE have higher standards than those animals we are fighting.
"If the cause is just then do everything"
I think that classifies as killing everyone and hiding behind kids.
And yes I did read to fast. Your sentence structure kinda confused me to.
Do you just carve sentences up into whatever form you want to make an argument? LOL. DO EVERYTHING EXCEPT INDISCRIMINATELY KILL CIVILIANS. Is that a clear enough translation of the sentence for you?Phantom2828 wrote:
O rlyCameronPoe wrote:
Can you read english? I specifically stated that indicriminate killing of civilians was NOT OK.Phantom2828 wrote:
By that logic for us to defeat terrorists its ok to bombs the fuck out of city's killing anyone in it. I believe you just owned yourself Cam. Why don't we just break out the nukes and level all of that shit hole of the middle east killing all the terrorists. Its ok to by your logic we are doing it to win. My god liberals have selective seeing and hearing.
Why the hell didn't we just level fallujia, Because we didn't want to kill thousands of people. Why didn't we just level Baghdad. Why the hell did we even put troops on the ground if its ok to indiscriminately kill people to win.
Why didn't we just break out the cruise missles.
Because WE have higher standards than those animals we are fighting.
"If the cause is just then do everything"
I think that classifies as killing everyone and hiding behind kids.
And yes I did read to fast. Your sentence structure kinda confused me to.
Well..he is right, whats wrong with a liberal getting it right once in a while.Phantom2828 wrote:
Wow Cam just wow.CameronPoe wrote:
I would have thought it was pretty obvious why they do:Phantom2828 wrote:
Nice job dodging the rest of my post.
I have YET to see anyone of you Israel haters make up a valid reason why Palestinians hide behind children blows up children hides in populated areas ETC
1) They're harder to hit.
2) They drag Israel into bombing civilians which is valuable in terms of propaganda.
Standard guerrilla tactics... .your point being?
You call conservatives heartless war mongers look what you just wrote.
Don't get so fucking pissed.CameronPoe wrote:
Do you just carve sentences up into whatever form you want to make an argument? LOL. DO EVERYTHING EXCEPT INDISCRIMINATELY KILL CIVILIANS. Is that a clear enough translation of the sentence for you?Phantom2828 wrote:
O rlyCameronPoe wrote:
Can you read english? I specifically stated that indicriminate killing of civilians was NOT OK.
"If the cause is just then do everything"
I think that classifies as killing everyone and hiding behind kids.
And yes I did read to fast. Your sentence structure kinda confused me to.
Ok even if you aren't indiscriminately killing civilians then I guess you are still allowed to hide behind children and strap bombs to them.
Whats wrong is him and other liberals bitching about how we accidently kill people in Iraq yet right here is saying that its basicly OK to hide behind children.ATG wrote:
Well..he is right, whats wrong with a liberal getting it right once in a while.Phantom2828 wrote:
Wow Cam just wow.CameronPoe wrote:
I would have thought it was pretty obvious why they do:
1) They're harder to hit.
2) They drag Israel into bombing civilians which is valuable in terms of propaganda.
Standard guerrilla tactics... .your point being?
You call conservatives heartless war mongers look what you just wrote.
I said that that is what the Palestinians are doing. It was a statement of fact. It's not the nicest tactic in the world. It is a smart tactic however. The reason it gets my goat in Iraq is the same reason it annoys me in Israel -> the cause is unjust.Phantom2828 wrote:
Whats wrong is him and other liberals bitching about how we accidently kill people in Iraq yet right here is saying that its basicly OK to hide behind children.ATG wrote:
Well..he is right, whats wrong with a liberal getting it right once in a while.Phantom2828 wrote:
Wow Cam just wow.
You call conservatives heartless war mongers look what you just wrote.
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So killing people that have the most hatefull Ideology on the planet is an unjust cause? where have I been for the past 10 years.CameronPoe wrote:
I said that that is what the Palestinians are doing. It was a statement of fact. It's not the nicest tactic in the world. It is a smart tactic however. The reason it gets my goat in Iraq is the same reason it annoys me in Israel -> the cause is unjust.Phantom2828 wrote:
Whats wrong is him and other liberals bitching about how we accidently kill people in Iraq yet right here is saying that its basicly OK to hide behind children.ATG wrote:
Well..he is right, whats wrong with a liberal getting it right once in a while.