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krazed wrote:

painted or a powdercoat?

He said Airsoft

It's most likely coloured plastic

CammRobb wrote:

FloppY_ wrote:

krazed wrote:

painted or a powdercoat?

He said Airsoft

It's most likely coloured plastic

helll naw nigga! That's full metal right there yo', it's sprayed.

okay okay, chillax bro'

The colour just looked plastic'y...
Oh well, now you are part of the cool crew, nobody can mess with us because we don't take shit and cap peoples heads with our airsofts *gangsigns*

Last edited by FloppY_ (2010-05-14 07:42:11)

Well, got a 'project rifle' that I'm debating just selling off, or working on it a bit.

factory stock Winchester 70, in 7mm WSM.
Holy shit is this thing a non-shooting piece of shit!
2" to 3" groups at 100yd.

Free-floated the barrel, glass bedded the action in the stock, reblued the exterior and polished up the interior, adjusted the trigger..
Worked up a few ladders of load development for 180 Bergers, 168 Sierra MK, 162 A-Max... nothing shoots well in this rifle.
off the lands, on the lands, low pressure 2700fps loads, high pressure 3000fps loads, change primers, change powders (H4350, H1000, H4831SC, RL-22, RL-25)

Private 'range' (aka 'back yard' in Montana), we've backstopped targets at 100yd and 415yd, and 'over at that hillside' targets at 925yd and 1125yd.
This particular project rifle is still doing 2" to 3" 5 shot groups at 100 yards.

Comparatively, its stable-mates are;

• a 7mm Rem Mag that averages 1/2" groups at 100 yd, and 'more often than coincidence' has shot 3/4" groups at 415yd (180 Berger .284@ 2975fps)
• a 300 Rem Ultra Mag that averages 1/2" groups at 100yd, and reliably hits the center 3" circle at 415yd (208 Amax, 180 Berger .308)
• a 7mm WSM that has done 1/4" groups at 100yd (168 Sierra MK, 180 Berger, 162 Amax) [sold off recently, to a friend in dire need of a good rifle.. damn damn damn]
• a Match AR-15 (White Oak upper, Geissele trigger, etc) that'll ping the 415yd 6" steel plate with boring repetitiveness -or- for fun, allow me to shoot expert on the 25m Army Alternate-C Qualification paper targets, while standing for both parts, from 75yd, in 45 seconds total time.(that's the difference between issue rifle/ammo and proper match rifle/ammo)

I am trying to decide whether I should give it the proper treatment (barrel, stock, bottom metal, brake, etc), or just sell it off.

rdx-fx wrote:

Well, got a 'project rifle' that I'm debating just selling off, or working on it a bit.

factory stock Winchester 70, in 7mm WSM.
Holy shit is this thing a non-shooting piece of shit!
2" to 3" groups at 100yd.

Free-floated the barrel, glass bedded the action in the stock, reblued the exterior and polished up the interior, adjusted the trigger..
Worked up a few ladders of load development for 180 Bergers, 168 Sierra MK, 162 A-Max... nothing shoots well in this rifle.
off the lands, on the lands, low pressure 2700fps loads, high pressure 3000fps loads, change primers, change powders (H4350, H1000, H4831SC, RL-22, RL-25)

Private 'range' (aka 'back yard' in Montana), we've backstopped targets at 100yd and 415yd, and 'over at that hillside' targets at 925yd and 1125yd.
This particular project rifle is still doing 2" to 3" 5 shot groups at 100 yards..

Check the scope and mount.
Check the muzzle crown.
Inspect the barrel - might be able to take an inch off it if its cleaning damage.
Otherwise sounds knackered.

Dilbert_X wrote:

rdx-fx wrote:

Well, got a 'project rifle' that I'm debating just selling off, or working on it a bit.

factory stock Winchester 70, in 7mm WSM.
Holy shit is this thing a non-shooting piece of shit!
2" to 3" groups at 100yd.

Check the scope and mount.
Check the muzzle crown.
Inspect the barrel - might be able to take an inch off it if its cleaning damage.
Otherwise sounds knackered.

Just redid the bedding tonight.  The old bedding compound was a little soft. 
was the last of an old set of resin and hardener, so it may've been toast.
Dug out the old bedding, put a few layers of painters tape in the front of the stock to hold the barrel a little further off the stock while the bedding cured, then bedded the recoil lug area (heavily) forward through the chamber area, the rear tang, and a light strip connecting the front and back.

Point of bedding the whole length (chamber to tang) is to make up for the slight angle I added at the front of the stock and to get rid of any odd pressure points in the stock/action mating area.

Went through the scope, mounts, and action - releveled the whole assembly.  Easier to level a Winchester 70, with the flat bottom receiver.
Then leveled the stock and bipod together, then put the bedding compound in the stock, leveled the whole assembly.

Oh, and cleaned the hell out of the barrel.

If it doesn't shoot properly in 3 days, it is getting sent off to Krieger for a new barrel then McMillan for a new stock.


Did accidentally find an amazingly consistent load while working with that Win70 7mmWSM though.
8 shots through a chronograph, 6 shots were at exactly 2956 fps, 1 at 2966 fps, and the cold-bore/fouling shot at 2946.
xx.x gr H4350 powder, WLRM primer, length/ogive/bearing sorted Sierra 168MK bullets, loaded 0.010" into the lands, COAL of 2.921".
(I'm out of Bergers to just load-and-go, hence sorting Sierras into 7 different piles per box)


Edit:  the barrel is already a 24" shorty, rather put a new 26" or 28" on it than go to 23".  The crown is the factory 'donut' rounded crown, not a proper 11° conical crown anyways.  Bore looks good, feels consistent when cleaning - no areas of slightly higher/lower pressure.

Last edited by rdx-fx (2010-05-18 22:18:26)

Nothing wrong inside the scope? Sometimes happens.

west-phoenix-az wrote:

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receiver of an uzi methinks?

FloppY_ wrote:

ROGUEDD wrote:

west-phoenix-az wrote:

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receiver of an uzi methinks?

That's what I was thinking, but then I remembered those are not legal in the US afaik

Lies. They just have to have 16" barrels and be semi-auto., unless of course you have a FFL license or an "class-3 permit".

FloppY_ wrote:

ROGUEDD wrote:

FloppY_ wrote:

That's what I was thinking, but then I remembered those are not legal in the US afaik

Lies. They just have to have 16" barrels and be semi-auto., unless of course you have a FFL license or an "class-3 permit".

The point of a semi-auto UZI is?

Exactly. lol

FloppY_ wrote:

ROGUEDD wrote:

FloppY_ wrote:

That's what I was thinking, but then I remembered those are not legal in the US afaik

Lies. They just have to have 16" barrels and be semi-auto., unless of course you have a FFL license or an "class-3 permit".

The point of a semi-auto UZI is?

Huge magazine, otherwise none.

Follow up on my suppressor for mah' H&K.

I did not need hearing protection.  The sound was muted, but by no means 'silent'.  The bullet smacking the steel plates was louder than the report.  I don't have raised sights so aiming took a few shots before I started dropping the steel plates.  The weight of the suppressor compensated recoil well making double taps a breeze.  However, the suppressor did come loose several times.  I expected this would happen.  When it was a touch loose it would cause the gun to jam.  Continued fire would have destroyed the gun and suppressor, so I had to keep a close eye on it.  That  small nuance aside, I absolutely love it.  After the Ducati is completely paid off I will be procuring a Sig .22 mosquito pistol and a suppressor for it. 

Next time I shoot it I'll  'you tube' .

mac 10 .45's are much cooler