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2011-08-31 09:32:33

#4001

west-phoenix-az: Guns don't kill people. . . joe bidens advice does; +632|6633

I've never been a fan of Taurus. They're not terrible, but nothing great either. I've never shot their 92 clone.

If you're going to get a 92 clone, definitely get the ATI C92 or full size if you can find one for a reasonable price. The C92 has a shorter barrel, but same grip (takes the full size 92 mags). Mec-gar makes excellent mags, better than Beretta factory (which are probably made by Mec-gar).

The Taurus safety is frame mounted which has fire down and safe up, the opposite of a slide mounted safety. I prefer down fire, up safe as it's more natural (for me) to activate (especially during a draw). But this one feature isn't enough to get the Taurus over the ATI or Beretta.

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2011-08-31 11:06:43

#4002

RAIMIUS: You with the face!; +244|6958|US

Yeah, I hate the backwards safety on the M9. Give me a frame mounted, down is "fire" safety any day.

2011-08-31 12:35:37

#4003

krazed: Admiral of the Bathtub; +619|7023|Great Brown North

Trotskygrad wrote:
I heard 7.62×25mm Tokarev is pretty good too, penetrates a lot

it does

2011-08-31 13:41:29

#4004

gurdeep: +812|4998|prolly

i officially own no more firearms. sold them all to my friend except the beretta which sere got yesterday. i never go shooting, plus i'm moving out of the country. no point in letting them just sit around here. when i am in the states and want to shoot, i can just go with my friend who has mine anyways

2011-08-31 13:44:14

#4005

west-phoenix-az: Guns don't kill people. . . joe bidens advice does; +632|6633

Where are you moving to?

2011-08-31 13:50:24

#4006

gurdeep: +812|4998|prolly

canada and mexico. only temporarily tho. not the reason why i sold them. most of them were sold like a yr ago. the last time i shot the beretta was in like november

2011-09-02 16:25:31

#4007

Trotskygrad: бля; +354|6243|Vortex Ring State

krazed wrote:
Trotskygrad wrote:
I heard 7.62×25mm Tokarev is pretty good too, penetrates a lot
it does

I like the CZ-52 a lot

2011-09-02 18:40:51

#4008

krazed: Admiral of the Bathtub; +619|7023|Great Brown North

i love my tt-33

2011-09-03 12:44:41

#4009

FEOS: Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate; +1,182|6654|'Murka

RAIMIUS wrote:
SEREMAKER wrote:
RAIMIUS wrote:

No. Just no.

There are PLENTY of US pistol designs.
The M9? There are lots of reasons, some questionable, why that was chosen.
M9 - Beretta - Italian manufacturer
Sorry, separate thoughts. I know Beretta is an Italian company. That was a big part of the controversy when it was accepted, even though the actual pistols are built in the US.

And the Browning Hi-Power isn't an awesome, reliable 9mm handgun or anything...

Yes, there were many problems with the Beretta contract.

“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular

2011-09-03 14:49:31

#4010

rdx-fx: ...; +955|6835

FEOS wrote:
And the Browning Hi-Power isn't an awesome, reliable 9mm handgun or anything...

Seriously miss my old FN Hi-Power.
Could double-tap 3 or 4 6" targets before my friend next to me could fire a Desert Eagle .50 2 or 3 times into the same targets.

And repeatable point of aim?
Wet, cold, tired, sore.. didn't matter.
Pick it up, the sights were exactly at my natural point of aim.
Every time.

Hmm..
FN HP MkIII, Benelli M4, or .45 pistol?
decisions.. decisions..

2011-09-03 20:23:43

#4011

RAIMIUS: You with the face!; +244|6958|US

FEOS wrote:
RAIMIUS wrote:
SEREMAKER wrote:

M9 - Beretta - Italian manufacturer
Sorry, separate thoughts. I know Beretta is an Italian company. That was a big part of the controversy when it was accepted, even though the actual pistols are built in the US.
And the Browning Hi-Power isn't an awesome, reliable 9mm handgun or anything...

Yes, there were many problems with the Beretta contract.

Browning designed many great firearms, that's for sure!

2011-09-03 21:28:29

#4012

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,815|6349|eXtreme to the maX

FEOS wrote:
RAIMIUS wrote:
SEREMAKER wrote:

M9 - Beretta - Italian manufacturer
Sorry, separate thoughts. I know Beretta is an Italian company. That was a big part of the controversy when it was accepted, even though the actual pistols are built in the US.
And the Browning Hi-Power isn't an awesome, reliable 9mm handgun or anything...

Yes, there were many problems with the Beretta contract.

They're not bad, I liked my Hipower, and they're made in Belgium so reasonable quality
The cross-bars tend to break in half if you use full-power ammunition for extended periods, and there is no replaceable barrel bushing so once worn out thats it.
A single action auto is not a good daily carry gun for beginners either.

Fuck Israel

2011-09-04 20:44:21

#4013

RAIMIUS: You with the face!; +244|6958|US

Dilbert_X wrote:
FEOS wrote:
RAIMIUS wrote:

Sorry, separate thoughts. I know Beretta is an Italian company. That was a big part of the controversy when it was accepted, even though the actual pistols are built in the US.
And the Browning Hi-Power isn't an awesome, reliable 9mm handgun or anything...

Yes, there were many problems with the Beretta contract.
They're not bad, I liked my Hipower, and they're made in Belgium so reasonable quality
The cross-bars tend to break in half if you use full-power ammunition for extended periods, and there is no replaceable barrel bushing so once worn out thats it.
A single action auto is not a good daily carry gun for beginners either.

How so?

2011-09-04 21:00:34

#4014

Reciprocity: Member; +721|6824|the dank(super) side of Oregon

just imagine shifty or warmin with a 1911. I'd be runnin for the hills like a raped ape.

2011-09-04 21:34:16

#4015

-Sh1fty-: plundering yee booty; +510|5717|Ventura, California

pansy

And above your tomb, the stars will belong to us.

2011-09-04 21:51:13

#4016

ROGUEDD: BF2s. A Liberal Gang of Faggots.; +452|5632|Fuck this.

walking stick

Make X-meds a full member, for the sake of 15 year old anal gangbang porn watchers everywhere!

2011-09-05 02:39:07

#4017

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,815|6349|eXtreme to the maX

RAIMIUS wrote:
Dilbert_X wrote:
A single action auto is not a good daily carry gun for beginners either.
How so?

Before I gave a noob an SA auto I'd give them - in order:
- A double action revolver
- A DAO auto
- An SA/DA auto with a decocking safety
- An auto with one of those stupid gay Glock style 'safety' triggers

Really, if someone inexperienced with firearms has to remember to release the safety to fire, and apply the safety to not fire they're going to forget one of the two, or probably both, when under pressure. And they'll probably forget some time due to simple forgetfulness or carelessness while handling and blow their leg off.

Plus, due to physical response under stress, a short travel light single action trigger is far more likely to result in an accidental discharge when actually in a shooting situation than any of the others above.

Fuck Israel

2011-09-05 11:08:28

#4018

Stingray24: Proud member of the vast right-wing conspiracy; +1,060|6689|The Land of Scott Walker

rdx-fx wrote:
Hmm..
FN HP MkIII, Benelli M4, or .45 pistol?
decisions.. decisions..

All 3. Done.

2011-09-05 11:31:21

#4019

rdx-fx: ...; +955|6835

Reciprocity wrote:
just imagine shifty or warmin with a 1911. I'd be runnin for the hills like a raped ape.

600 meters should be a safe distance.

7.3 moa drop with a 300yd zero, for me

2011-09-05 14:19:44

#4020

RAIMIUS: You with the face!; +244|6958|US

Dilbert_X wrote:
RAIMIUS wrote:
Dilbert_X wrote:
A single action auto is not a good daily carry gun for beginners either.
How so?
Before I gave a noob an SA auto I'd give them - in order:
- A double action revolver
- A DAO auto
- An SA/DA auto with a decocking safety
- An auto with one of those stupid gay Glock style 'safety' triggers

Really, if someone inexperienced with firearms has to remember to release the safety to fire, and apply the safety to not fire they're going to forget one of the two, or probably both, when under pressure. And they'll probably forget some time due to simple forgetfulness or carelessness while handling and blow their leg off.

Plus, due to physical response under stress, a short travel light single action trigger is far more likely to result in an accidental discharge when actually in a shooting situation than any of the others above.

So you rely on them only pulling the trigger a little for safety? No thanks! I agree that deactivating a manual safety before firing has to be trained. That said, I think there is a MUCH higher probability of an ND with a Glock/xD/M&P style system (no manual safety and light trigger).

If you cannot consistently follow the Four Rules and execute a safe draw stroke, you should not carry any firearm. If you can, pick the one that works for you. The first pistol I CCWed was a 1911, but I had trained on it for a while. Relying on the weight of the trigger or a safety to make up for poor gun handling skills while under stress is a good way to get killed or shoot someone negligently.

Last edited by RAIMIUS (2011-09-05 14:21:14)

2011-09-06 00:07:13

#4021

lowing: Banned; +1,662|6895|USA

RAIMIUS wrote:
Dilbert_X wrote:
RAIMIUS wrote:

How so?
Before I gave a noob an SA auto I'd give them - in order:
- A double action revolver
- A DAO auto
- An SA/DA auto with a decocking safety
- An auto with one of those stupid gay Glock style 'safety' triggers

Really, if someone inexperienced with firearms has to remember to release the safety to fire, and apply the safety to not fire they're going to forget one of the two, or probably both, when under pressure. And they'll probably forget some time due to simple forgetfulness or carelessness while handling and blow their leg off.

Plus, due to physical response under stress, a short travel light single action trigger is far more likely to result in an accidental discharge when actually in a shooting situation than any of the others above.
So you rely on them only pulling the trigger a little for safety? No thanks! I agree that deactivating a manual safety before firing has to be trained. That said, I think there is a MUCH higher probability of an ND with a Glock/xD/M&P style system (no manual safety and light trigger).

If you cannot consistently follow the Four Rules and execute a safe draw stroke, you should not carry any firearm. If you can, pick the one that works for you. The first pistol I CCWed was a 1911, but I had trained on it for a while. Relying on the weight of the trigger or a safety to make up for poor gun handling skills while under stress is a good way to get killed or shoot someone negligently.

you think A DAO trigger pull is light? It takes more than pulling the trigger "a little" to fire. Unless you catch the trigger on a tree branch or something you pretty much gotta purposefully pull the trigger to fire.

2011-09-06 02:42:25

#4022

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,815|6349|eXtreme to the maX

RAIMIUS wrote:
Relying on the weight of the trigger or a safety to make up for poor gun handling skills while under stress is a good way to get killed or shoot someone negligently.

Which is why I'd prefer noobs rely on a long heavy trigger pull and no safety.
Safeties just confuse people and short, light trigger is a recipe for disaster.

I think there is a MUCH higher probability of an ND with a Glock/xD/M&P style system.

You'll note the bit where I said "An auto with one of those stupid gay Glock style 'safety' triggers" and put it last on my list.

People without the inclination to train properly and do extensive regular practice shouldn't be carrying guns, but the fact is they're going to and a single action auto should not be their first pick.
It wouldn't be my first pick, and I have extensive experience with pistols.

Last edited by Dilbert_X (2011-09-06 02:44:22)

Fuck Israel

2011-09-06 03:02:19

#4023

FEOS: Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate; +1,182|6654|'Murka

Dilbert_X wrote:
RAIMIUS wrote:
Dilbert_X wrote:
A single action auto is not a good daily carry gun for beginners either.
How so?
Before I gave a noob an SA auto I'd give them - in order:
- A double action revolver
- A DAO auto
- An SA/DA auto with a decocking safety
- An auto with one of those stupid gay Glock style 'safety' triggers

Really, if someone inexperienced with firearms has to remember to release the safety to fire, and apply the safety to not fire they're going to forget one of the two, or probably both, when under pressure. And they'll probably forget some time due to simple forgetfulness or carelessness while handling and blow their leg off.

Plus, due to physical response under stress, a short travel light single action trigger is far more likely to result in an accidental discharge when actually in a shooting situation than any of the others above.

Interesting. However, all US service members are trained to fire the Beretta in primarily single-action mode. We learn DA, to understand the higher trigger pull and compensate, but prefer to fire in SA...particularly since every shot after the first is SA anyways.

“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular

2011-09-06 04:10:12

#4024

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,815|6349|eXtreme to the maX

'after the first shot' thats the key.

Most British service-persons are trained to carry Brownings in condition 3 IIRC.

I don't like DA/SA guns either particularly, DA trigger is usually terrible, SA trigger is very light by comparison.
At least with a decocking safety there's not too much to think about.

Last edited by Dilbert_X (2011-09-06 04:11:20)

Fuck Israel

2011-09-06 05:53:28

#4025

rdx-fx: ...; +955|6835

Stingray24 wrote:
rdx-fx wrote:
Hmm..
FN HP MkIII, Benelli M4, or .45 pistol?
decisions.. decisions..
All 3. Done.

Probably in the order listed.

Good idea

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