US-UK Relations

2006-10-13 03:39:55

#1

CameronPoe: Member; +2,925|6810

BBC wrote:
The US government has rebuffed UK calls to close its controversial detention centre at Guantanamo Bay in Cuba.
The UK foreign minister said it was unacceptable on human rights grounds and ineffective in fighting terrorism.

BBC wrote:
The presence of UK armed forces in Iraq "exacerbates the security problems" and they should "get out some time soon", the head of the British Army has said.
Chief of the General Staff Sir Richard Dannatt told the Daily Mail that the military campaign fought in 2003 had "effectively kicked the door in".
He also said that initial planning for the post-war period had been poor.

For those with an aversion to the BBC, i.e those that prefer 'fair and balanced' news:

FOX News wrote:
LONDON — Britain's new army chief called for a withdrawal of British troops from Iraq, warning that the military's presence there only exacerbates security problems, according to an interview published Thursday.

Gen. Richard Dannatt described British Prime Minister Tony Blair's Iraq policies as "naive," declaring that while Iraqis might have welcomed coalition forces following the ouster of Saddam Hussein, the good will has since evaporated after years of violence.

Troubled relationship? I wonder how long the once-proud UK can continue to pander to the US like a little fluffy poodle.

Last edited by CameronPoe (2006-10-13 07:15:32)

2006-10-13 03:42:26

#2

ﻍﻏﺱﺖﻇﻸﮚ: Banned; +69|6756

No big deal

2006-10-13 03:43:58

#3

BN: smells like wee wee; +159|7023

There may be a change of government there soon too. That will be interesting.

2006-10-13 03:47:43

#4

Knight`UK: Lollerstorycarpark; +371|6835|England

UK is still proud and a awesome place to live in .

If you belive anything from BBC, CameronPoe then you have slipped really down low in my mind .

UK-US have always had a realationship like this its no big deal .Just another one of your digs at the UK (notice the wink before flame from you)

Also i do notice the Irish seem to be lap dogs and fed from the US also

Last edited by Knight`UK (2006-10-13 03:54:50)

2006-10-13 03:53:15

#5

.:XDR:.PureFodder: Member; +105|7084

Probably till Blair get ditched next year. Going to war in Iraq and pandering the whims of the US has fairly well killed off Tony Blair's credibility. The problem is the conservatives are being crap as usual, the Lib Dems decided to vote in a walking fossil and Labor look likely to be taken over by a dull fat bloke.

Hooray for UK politics.

2006-10-13 04:06:32

#6

commissargizz: Member; +123|6719| Heaven

Who cares...ditch the US....let's start thinking for ourselves again....

2006-10-13 04:14:35

#7

arabeater: Do you have any idea how fooking busy I am?; +49|6936|Colorado Springs, CO

Its just propaganda. US-UK relations will remain strong. They both realize that they need each other.

2006-10-13 04:16:16

#8

Pug: UR father's brother's nephew's former roommate; +652|6797|Texas - Bigger than France

Hopefully it will shorten the stay over there.

2006-10-13 04:26:53

#9

arabeater: Do you have any idea how fooking busy I am?; +49|6936|Colorado Springs, CO

Pug wrote:
Hopefully it will shorten the stay over there.

I agree. I spent a total of about 1.5 years in Iraq and its not a very desirable place to be. I had fun playing cards and soccer with the ragheads though. At least till we move on to Iran next year.

2006-10-13 04:35:35

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sergeriver: Cowboy from Hell; +1,928|7012|Argentina

I don't know about UK, but BBC is the best news source.

2006-10-13 04:38:30

#11

joker3327: =IBF2=; +305|6853|Cheshire. UK

arabeater wrote:
Pug wrote:
Hopefully it will shorten the stay over there.
I agree. I spent a total of about 1.5 years in Iraq and its not a very desirable place to be. I had fun playing cards and soccer with the ragheads though. At least till we move on to Iran next year.

Iran???? thought it was North Korea next?

2006-10-13 04:39:48

#12

Pug: UR father's brother's nephew's former roommate; +652|6797|Texas - Bigger than France

joker3327 wrote:
arabeater wrote:
Pug wrote:
Hopefully it will shorten the stay over there.
I agree. I spent a total of about 1.5 years in Iraq and its not a very desirable place to be. I had fun playing cards and soccer with the ragheads though. At least till we move on to Iran next year.
Iran???? thought it was North Korea next?

Hey, we have to do this alphabetically, remember...

2006-10-13 04:40:12

#13

arabeater: Do you have any idea how fooking busy I am?; +49|6936|Colorado Springs, CO

joker3327 wrote:
arabeater wrote:
Pug wrote:
Hopefully it will shorten the stay over there.
I agree. I spent a total of about 1.5 years in Iraq and its not a very desirable place to be. I had fun playing cards and soccer with the ragheads though. At least till we move on to Iran next year.
Iran???? thought it was North Korea next?

No that will be a UN force. Iran is gonna be a US invasion.

2006-10-13 04:46:33

#14

daffytag: cheese-it!; +104|6830

Pug wrote:
joker3327 wrote:
arabeater wrote:

I agree. I spent a total of about 1.5 years in Iraq and its not a very desirable place to be. I had fun playing cards and soccer with the ragheads though. At least till we move on to Iran next year.
Iran???? thought it was North Korea next?
Hey, we have to do this alphabetically, remember...

ROFL. Flip a coin

2006-10-13 04:47:48

#15

RicardoBlanco: The English; +177|6823|Oxford

CameronPoe wrote:
Troubled relationship? I wonder how long the once-proud UK can continue to pander to the US like a little fluffy poodle.

As long as we keep getting the american investments, subsidies, preferential treatment and military back-up, not to mention intelligence sharing, and they keep using our influence in Europe and the rest of the world, the relationship will continue. I say make the most of it while it's there, it's like money for old rope to us

2006-10-13 04:52:19

#16

GunSlinger OIF II: Banned.; +1,860|6899

arabeater wrote:
joker3327 wrote:
arabeater wrote:

I agree. I spent a total of about 1.5 years in Iraq and its not a very desirable place to be. I had fun playing cards and soccer with the ragheads though. At least till we move on to Iran next year.
Iran???? thought it was North Korea next?
No that will be a UN force. Iran is gonna be a US invasion.

shhhhhhhhh

2006-10-13 04:55:44

#17

arabeater: Do you have any idea how fooking busy I am?; +49|6936|Colorado Springs, CO

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
arabeater wrote:
joker3327 wrote:

Iran???? thought it was North Korea next?
No that will be a UN force. Iran is gonna be a US invasion.
shhhhhhhhh

woops! My bad! I dont think its much of a secret anymore.

2006-10-13 04:59:29

#18

EricTViking: Yes, I am Queeg; +48|6807|UK

CameronPoe wrote:
Troubled relationship? I wonder how long the once-proud UK can continue to pander to the US like a little fluffy poodle.

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2006-10-13 05:02:18

#19

arabeater: Do you have any idea how fooking busy I am?; +49|6936|Colorado Springs, CO

EricTViking wrote:
CameronPoe wrote:
Troubled relationship? I wonder how long the once-proud UK can continue to pander to the US like a little fluffy poodle.
http://www.e-aquila.com/images/whocares1.jpg

Exactly! If the UK decides today that they want nothing to do with the US, I could really give a shit. It would suck to lose a good ally but i'll get over it quickly. I did have a great time hanging out with some Royal Marines in Iraq though.

2006-10-13 07:12:14

#20

Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|6856|132 and Bush

Guantanamo Bay in Cuba is being visited by the International Red cross. We will see how bad things are there.

Xbone Stormsurgezz

2006-10-13 07:21:13

#21

BN: smells like wee wee; +159|7023

Kmarion wrote:
Guantanamo Bay in Cuba is being visited by the International Red cross. We will see how bad things are there.

hmmm, do you think they might visit on a "good day"?

2006-10-13 07:55:50

#22

Bubbalo: The Lizzard; +541|6816

God damn Poms............we ditch them, and they stop getting into fights. Australia has the worst choice in allies.......................

2006-10-13 08:28:31

#23

Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|6856|132 and Bush

BN wrote:
Kmarion wrote:
Guantanamo Bay in Cuba is being visited by the International Red cross. We will see how bad things are there.
hmmm, do you think they might visit on a "good day"?

Already coming up with theories..lol
They will be talking to inmates. I like how everyone assumes they know what happens there. I don't know and there is no possible way for me to know. What I do know is they can be held there indefinitely and that is what bothers me. However I won't just take someones word on it who has been released and said they were beaten everyday. People who are obviously trying to gain sentiment. This is not to say it doesn't happen but I would like to see evidence that it happening continually like it is described. I know one of the things those released say is that their religious practices were disrespected. I know at least they give the inmates a copy of the Koran and a rug to pray on. Other than that it's just here say. That is why I am glad an international organization is going in to have a look.

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Xbone Stormsurgezz

2006-10-13 09:52:45

#24

Bertster7: Confused Pothead; +1,101|6837|SE London

The Terry Lloyd situation is also putting some minor strain on Anglo-American relations.

2006-10-13 10:09:46

#25

EricTViking: Yes, I am Queeg; +48|6807|UK

Bubbalo wrote:
God damn Poms............we ditch them, and they stop getting into fights. Australia has the worst choice in allies.......................

Maybe you should use your new found freedom to ally with somewhere with a sympathetic population - such as Antarctica? ;-)

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