BF2S Forums APC vs. APC in 2142

Tanks too. If no one is with you in the tank you have no machine gun. What the fuck is that????????????

But EMP missiles don't do any damage I'm talking about doing battle not annoying other vehicles by disabling them how are you supposed to do battle?

APC's are made for infantry carriering, and has a machine gun against infantry, EMP against vehicles and a grenade launcher against large infantry groups.

It is not ment to be a fighting vehicle like the BF2 apc's.

Same applies to tanks, teamwork! TEAMWORK!

But EMP missiles don't do any damage I'm talking about doing battle not annoying other vehicles by disabling them how are you supposed to do battle?

There are vehicles designed to attack other vehicles.

Again always the same shit TEAMWORK lol what a load of crap PEOPLE DONT DO TEAMWORK THEY GO OFF ON THEIR OWN AND DO THEIR OWN THING. I would love for the guy who just got in the tank to follow me and together my APC and his tank would pwn but he doesn't follow me, so now what do I do? How does your "teamwork" help now?

JimmyBotswana wrote:

Again always the same shit TEAMWORK lol what a load of crap PEOPLE DONT DO TEAMWORK THEY GO OFF ON THEIR OWN AND DO THEIR OWN THING. I would love for the guy who just got in the tank to follow me and together my APC and his tank would pwn but he doesn't follow me, so now what do I do? How does your "teamwork" help now?

Teamwork? Join the BF2S EU server, and you'll notice what teamwork means.

Havazn wrote:

With the introduction of Mechs, the tanks in 2142 essentially become the APCs of BF2. APC stands for Armoured Personnel Carrier. It is not designed to stand toe to toe with a tank in real life. I believe they were misrepresented in BF2. No one used the to transport troops into a fight. Although 2142 is in the future, these machines are portrayed more accurately as an APC. A support tool, not a front line behemoth.

First of all the APC did not stand toe to toe with the tank in BF2 most of the time you were dead unless you hit the tank's weak spot.

Secondly if you were squad leader and an APC driver you could use the APC very effectively to load up, hit a flag, unload, cap in 5 seconds, and load up again to hit the next one, capping four flags before the enemy knew what was happening, and I did that quite often.

The difference being that you could actually battle with the other APCs if you encountered them. Now, what are you supposed to do if you encounter another APC? The EMP does no damage and those mortar thingys on F2 do slight damage.

It's the same with the tank if no one will get in the tank with you you are screwed because you have no gun to kill infantry. This is why I think BF2 pwns teh shit out of 2142 bcozz if you had good teamwork you pwned but even if your team didn't want to help you you were still lethal on your own. EA is hoping for some utopian scenario where everyone will help out and everyone will have the same ideas on how to win and work together. The good thing about BF2 is if your whole team thinks capping a certain flag is the best course of action and they are getting killed and not capping anything, and you are smarter and think hmmmmm i'll flank them here and go cap this flag which is undefended you could, and in an APC or tank you were still a lethal weapon all alone. Now, you will have no choice but to fight with your n00b teammates and get killed bcoz teh vehicles are all useless on their own.

Is the answer just teamwork teamwork teamwork cause if it is this game is going to suck great big...............

You know the rest.

Last edited by JimmyBotswana (2006-10-13 01:10:12)

Well if you encounter another APC just ignore it and go on about your bussiness Or your teammate engy can shoot him self up on the nearest building (above APCs FOV)

But honestly APC in BF2 was not, in most cases "used to quickly transport personel on the battlefield and shield them from small arms fire" and crap like that that only looks good on paper. No. In most cases it was just used to pwn the shit out of infantry with its cannon with splash damage thingy. (notice how I said "in most" cases - means not ALL)

As far as the capability to get to sites fast, 2142 is much better. You have the crazy transport choppers (gazzilion times better then BlackHawk) and TITAN PODS FTW. You can shoot your self hundrets of meters with it, land on buildings, hills, peolpe even Defending a site was never more important.

It's not me who can't grasp the concept this idea that everyone in 2142 will work together its a fairy tale

Create a squad, invite people to it, lead them well and teamwork will happen. Create a squad, and then ignore your squad becasue they don't do exactly what you want, they'll completely ignore you and do their own thing.

It's up to you. Be a good squad leader an they'll come back for more when they see that they are getting good scores.

But, keep in mind that this is gonna be a new game, even a new type of game, for many people. Treat them like n00bs and they are gonna want to work with you. Lead them, support them, give them useful orders.

Delphy wrote:

I grasp the concept, idiot, it just doesn't happen very often.

And calling someone an idiot just because you can't think of a useful comment is a good indication of your character. Ask yourself a question, when your squad doesn't perform who has failed? Do you consider the be all and end all of being a squad leader to be a spawn point and hitting PG UP whenever the commander gives you an order?

Last edited by DoctorFruitloop (2006-10-13 01:45:26)

Ty wrote:

Wow. It amazes me how in BF2 there was no end to complaints that APCs and Tanks were almost unstoppable killing machines, and now when the driver is limited and so cannot 'pwn' everything, the complaints flow in.

WHAT THE HELL!!??

There's just no pleasing some people Ty.

DoctorFruitloop wrote:

There's just no pleasing some people Ty.

Urgh. Tell me about it.

the machine gun is ownage to kill inf, and the EMP is a little useless to battle with and is only ment to get  away, i think the tanks, the reall  tanks not those hoover thingy's are total ownage, a good machinegun on top and the turret is able to blast everything you are able to see.