The_Shipbuilder
Stay the corpse
+261|6756|Los Angeles

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

Im not calling for military action.  I am making observations and predictions.  that is if you were referring to me...
I wasn't, actually, just speaking in general.

But now that you mention it - you said Korea lost the last war it had with Japan. Korea ("Chosun" back then) fought with and repelled a Japanese invasion in the 16th century. And in 1910 Japan annexed Korea without war. Were you talking about some other war that I'm not aware of?
GunSlinger OIF II
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am I mistaken in saying that korea was under military occupation prior to the end of WW2?  I consider that some kind losing in a war.

Last edited by GunSlinger OIF II (2006-10-12 10:09:37)

The_Shipbuilder
Stay the corpse
+261|6756|Los Angeles

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

am I mistaken in saying that korea was under military occupation prior to the end of WW2?  I consider that some kind losing in a war.
Japan annexed Korea and controlled it for 35 years. There were no battles. To me if someone says "Country A defeated Country B in a war" they mean that the two sides engaged in military conflict. What is your definition of war?
IRONCHEF
Member
+385|6747|Northern California
My definition of war is failed politics.  If you invade or occupy a country, regardless of fighting, it being an act of aggression without death or shots fired, is war.  It's the best kind of warfare, but it's still war.  Politics and diplomacy is the way you should take over countries, take land, expel people, change governments, or stop other abuses or practices someone else is doing.  In this day and age, such diplomacy is not present, or is impossible giventhe extremities.
manitobapaintballa
Member
+32|6875

Kmarion wrote:

manitobapaintballa wrote:

its a bluff...........


and besides they haven't done anything wrong yet they got every right to have nuclear weapons.
Sure lets pass weapons out to everyone, makes no difference. Don't be so naive.
naive??? dude what gives the americans the right to have wmd's and no other country. mabie you shouldn't be so naive man, or better yet mabie the americans should nuke N.K. and kill all of the people there that would be a course of action you would agree with....

let me guess you are against iran having nuclear POWER too........
manitobapaintballa
Member
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Miller wrote:

dquinner wrote:

Why shouldnt North Korea have nuclear weapons? Its not like they are the only country with them. The USA, France, Russia, China, Pakistan and India all have them. Some of you claim Kim Jong Il is mad and should not be trusted but you trust Bush the man that described North korea as being part of "the axis of evil" along with Iraq. Do you not think Kim Jong Il saw this as a threat from America? North Korea and Iraq being mentioned together and Iraq being invaded, of course Kim Jong Il feels the need to develop weapons although if he just explains that  he has no oil or other resources America could make money from he will probably be ok. Either nobody should be allowed have nuclear weapons or everybody should be allowed have them, fuck this double standards bullshit.
There is a difference between NK having them and the US.  We actually hesitate to use them, will NK, or Al Quada for that matter? I don't think so. Please, stop trying to make this harder than it already is.  By disarming everyone, you let those who follow the law get destroyed while the others break it and nuke away.  Or, if you give them all nukes, welcome to the apocalypse.
did you just say the americans will hesitate to use nukes???? are you stupid? they are the ONLY country to use nukes..... it is the rest of the world who is hesitating to use them (thank who ever you pray to for tat one)
Fancy_Pollux
Connoisseur of Fine Wine
+1,306|6902

manitobapaintballa wrote:

naive??? dude what gives the americans the right to have wmd's and no other country. mabie you shouldn't be so naive man, or better yet mabie the americans should nuke N.K. and kill all of the people there that would be a course of action you would agree with....

let me guess you are against iran having nuclear POWER too........
Fail.

We get it. You're all wound up in a hissy-fit because you hate the US, but it's causing you to act irrationally. North Korea has a history of selling missiles to terrorists. These terrorists will not hesitate to use a nuclear weapon. Learn something before you speak.

manitobapaintballa wrote:

mabie you shouldn't be so naive man, or better yet mabie the americans should nuke N.K.
Or maybe you should read a damn textbook or dictionary. You have no room to accuse anyone of anything when you spell maybe as mabie not once, but twice in the same sentence. Kiss whatever credibility you have goodbye.

Last edited by Fancy_Pollux (2006-10-12 10:47:53)

Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6857|132 and Bush

The_Shipbuilder wrote:

God, our 15-35 year-old male demographic sure is bloodthirsty, aren't we. It's funny how quick people are to call for military action at the first hint of provocation.

Heaven forbid these people ever find their way to a poker table.
Any action would be a surpirse. The only nation that said military action was NK.
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The_Shipbuilder
Stay the corpse
+261|6756|Los Angeles

Kmarion wrote:

The_Shipbuilder wrote:

God, our 15-35 year-old male demographic sure is bloodthirsty, aren't we. It's funny how quick people are to call for military action at the first hint of provocation.

Heaven forbid these people ever find their way to a poker table.
Any action would be a surpirse. The only nation that said military action was NK.
I'm not suggesting what would actually happen - just amused at what people on this forum believe should be done in response.
Snipedya14
Dont tread on me
+77|6951|Mountains of West Virginia

The_Shipbuilder wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

The_Shipbuilder wrote:

God, our 15-35 year-old male demographic sure is bloodthirsty, aren't we. It's funny how quick people are to call for military action at the first hint of provocation.

Heaven forbid these people ever find their way to a poker table.
Any action would be a surpirse. The only nation that said military action was NK.
I'm not suggesting what would actually happen - just amused at what people on this forum believe should be done in response.
Ah but people like to talk out of their ass. I bet maybe a 1/3 of the people who say they would enlist actually would.
IRONCHEF
Member
+385|6747|Northern California
manitoba, be careful, the CREDITIBILITY police are after you too!  I was chased down and stripped of my credibility too so my words now mean nothing.  And how dare you misspell words in this thread!!!  lol
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6857|132 and Bush

manitobapaintballa wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

manitobapaintballa wrote:

its a bluff...........


and besides they haven't done anything wrong yet they got every right to have nuclear weapons.
Sure lets pass weapons out to everyone, makes no difference. Don't be so naive.
naive??? dude what gives the americans the right to have wmd's and no other country. mabie you shouldn't be so naive man, or better yet mabie the americans should nuke N.K. and kill all of the people there that would be a course of action you would agree with....

let me guess you are against iran having nuclear POWER too........
So you think every nation should have wmds because others do? Are you really incapable of seeing how unintelligent that idea is? Spend 5 minutes and think about your response.
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Capt. Foley
Member
+155|6844|Allentown, PA, USA

Kmarion wrote:

manitobapaintballa wrote:

Kmarion wrote:


Sure lets pass weapons out to everyone, makes no difference. Don't be so naive.
naive??? dude what gives the americans the right to have wmd's and no other country. mabie you shouldn't be so naive man, or better yet mabie the americans should nuke N.K. and kill all of the people there that would be a course of action you would agree with....

let me guess you are against iran having nuclear POWER too........
So you think every nation should have wmds because others do? Are you really incapable of seeing how unintelligent that idea is? Spend 5 minutes and think about your response.
I highly doubt he has the ability to think. Even a donkey is smarter it seems.
Fancy_Pollux
Connoisseur of Fine Wine
+1,306|6902

IRONCHEF wrote:

manitoba, be careful, the CREDITIBILITY police are after you too!  I was chased down and stripped of my credibility too so my words now mean nothing.  And how dare you misspell words in this thread!!!  lol
Your sarcasm is merely a failed attempt (one of many) at being clever. Here is why: In a debate, no one is going to take anything you say seriously if you present your argument with a second-grader's mastery of the English language. The occasional typo is inevitable, but this is simply blatant butchering of the English language (this is frowned upon in the TOS). The irony of the situation is that he even stooped to your level and made several personal attacks because he had no point. So we have someone with the spelling skills of a 9-year-old girl using AOL attempting to one-up another forum user. No one is going to take that person seriously. That is credibility in a nutshell. Do you care to argue otherwise?

Capt. Foley wrote:

I highly doubt he has the ability to think. Even a donkey is smarter it seems.

Last edited by Fancy_Pollux (2006-10-12 14:34:06)

The_Shipbuilder wrote:

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

am I mistaken in saying that korea was under military occupation prior to the end of WW2?  I consider that some kind losing in a war.
Japan annexed Korea and controlled it for 35 years. There were no battles. To me if someone says "Country A defeated Country B in a war" they mean that the two sides engaged in military conflict. What is your definition of war?
Korea may have abdicated soverignty but they had a resistance movement which thousands of people died so techincally there was definately 2 sides engaged in a conlfict.

I do support military action ..not beacuse im "bloodthirsty" but for the miilions of N.Koreans to have a better life outside of opression and starvation and for a more stable southeast asia. With a coalition of SKorea Japan Taiwan USA UK and whomever else 'dont forget Poland' the DPRK will fall pretty quick imo.

Last edited by ﻍﻏﺱﺖﻇﻸﮚ (2006-10-12 15:06:12)

IRONCHEF
Member
+385|6747|Northern California

Fancy_Pollux wrote:

IRONCHEF wrote:

manitoba, be careful, the CREDITIBILITY police are after you too!  I was chased down and stripped of my credibility too so my words now mean nothing.  And how dare you misspell words in this thread!!!  lol
Your sarcasm is merely a failed attempt (one of many) at being clever. Here is why: In a debate, no one is going to take anything you say seriously if you present your argument with a second-grader's mastery of the English language. The occasional typo is inevitable, but this is simply blatant butchering of the English language (this is frowned upon in the TOS). The irony of the situation is that he even stooped to your level and made several personal attacks because he had no point. So we have someone with the spelling skills of a 9-year-old girl using AOL attempting to one-up another forum user. No one is going to take that person seriously. That is credibility in a nutshell. Do you care to argue otherwise?

Capt. Foley wrote:

I highly doubt he has the ability to think. Even a donkey is smarter it seems.
Ok great.  I believe you.  I have no credibility.  None.  But guess what, I'm still going to give true opinions and facts on these boards anyway, so how bout getting over yourself?  Also, please stop insulting me, it's getting old and you're not very funny anymore.
Fancy_Pollux
Connoisseur of Fine Wine
+1,306|6902

IRONCHEF wrote:

Ok great.  I believe you.  I have no credibility.  None.  But guess what, I'm still going to give true opinions and facts on these boards anyway, so how bout getting over yourself?  Also, please stop insulting me, it's getting old and you're not very funny anymore.

IRONCHEF wrote:

I'm sorry, I didn't read any articles lately saying that North Korea actually sold weapons or technology to anyone.  Did you read that or something?  or do you also not know what you're talking about?

IRONCHEF wrote:

Oh, and I'd love for you to cite some of the "science" that proves evolution.  Then I'd love for you to tackle the truth that scientist are just dumb, slow, vain men and women trying to discover how God created things, seasons, time and space.  They get it now and then, but mostly they are dealing with adversaries beyond their understanding.

IRONCHEF wrote:

Again, is there proof or a theory.  Judging by your citations, I see that you don't know.  Discovery channel and Nat'l Geographic channel are television producers and they play films created by people reporting things both true and not.  But if that's the proof you need, then by goly, continue to live in ignorance.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6857|132 and Bush

China isn't going to like it when Japan gets the bomb as well. Consider the strength of their economy and add a military that has been beefed up. If the keep blocking sanctions and that is probably where it is headed.
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CO05
Member
+3|6780
What happens if Japan attacks and NK retaliates and hits Japan with a bomb of some sort? Wouldn't the densely packed Japan feel it pretty badly?
beerface702
Member
+65|6949|las vegas

IRONCHEF wrote:

Jenkinsbball wrote:

But the problem is that nuclear weapons are being put into the hands of a madman.
Again (from another thread), who knows if he's a madman?  I saw the same discovery channel/cnn/msnbc/john stewart satire/ shows that make fun of him and say he wears pumps, loves US movies (who doesn't), and that he is a crazy short man.  But I've not seen anything credible that was not US propaganda.  Bush named him part of the axis of evil, then all of a sudden, all the reports of him being psycho come out of the woodwork.

He may be crazy, but I'd highly doubt my US media would be the ones telling us.  I'd trust a defector who actually knew first hand if he was..but i haven't seen any of those interviews.

Anyway, not arguing, just questioning your claim honestly.
ive been following Kim Jong Il for a few years.

1. he is a complete alcholic....well bush is a drunk also, but he cant launch a nuke(goes down chain of command) there is no BIG red button

2. he fucks 14 year old girls

3.he has a napolean complex and is m ean as hell.

4. he shouldnt have nukes at his drunken fingure tip...not good
beerface702
Member
+65|6949|las vegas

manitobapaintballa wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

manitobapaintballa wrote:

its a bluff...........


and besides they haven't done anything wrong yet they got every right to have nuclear weapons.
Sure lets pass weapons out to everyone, makes no difference. Don't be so naive.
naive??? dude what gives the americans the right to have wmd's and no other country. mabie you shouldn't be so naive man, or better yet mabie the americans should nuke N.K. and kill all of the people there that would be a course of action you would agree with....

let me guess you are against iran having nuclear POWER too........
7 other countries h ave confirmed nukes


Israel has 100-200 nukes (unconfirmed) but the US gave them out to Israel, we just hide the fact.

not to mention Iran and N.korea who are unconfirmed and not on the Big boy's list of nukes

and possibly Syria and small rouge nations

hell those 50 someodd suitcase nukes are floatin around somewhere

who knows the exact number. but they are harmless, where made 35 years ago,

Last edited by beerface702 (2006-10-13 01:40:57)

Reciprocity
Member
+721|6837|the dank(super) side of Oregon
if it was a logistically feesible option, I'd say put a bullet in lil' Kim's head.  wait and see who rises to the top.  If they're not bat-shit nuts they'll understand that the only way to survive is to cooperate.  otherwise, begin the strategic destruction of ever possible industrial facility and government building.  China wont do anything, we're too economically important(thanks Walmart).  They can keep a commie government for all I care, they just aren't allowed to pack nukes.
.:XDR:.PureFodder
Member
+105|7085
I wonder why NK feels threatened.

1) US names NK as one of the 3 countries in the `axis of evil`
2) US + other countries invade and occupy one of those three countries.
3) One down.............

Oh and as far as nukes go, I imagine that Kim's at least dimly aware that although he has a handful of nukes the US has 10,000. Enough to pretty much immolate every inch of NK ten times.
howler_27
Member
+90|6943
It's too bad that Pussy Eisenhower didn't let McArthur finish the damn job back in the day.  Should have pushed those bastards all the way back to the Chinese border.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6857|132 and Bush

.:XDR:.PureFodder wrote:

I wonder why NK feels threatened.

1) US names NK as one of the 3 countries in the `axis of evil`
2) US + other countries invade and occupy one of those three countries.
3) One down.............

Oh and as far as nukes go, I imagine that Kim's at least dimly aware that although he has a handful of nukes the US has 10,000. Enough to pretty much immolate every inch of NK ten times.
Do you think it is a good idea for them to have nukes? Do you know anything about that country? They pretty much ban anyone from entering that country. All contact from the outside world is cut off. Why do you think that is? Don't you think that is alarming?
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