If we aren't supposed to have premarital sex, then tell me why men hit there sexual peak in their late teens to early 20's, and women don't get theirs until their late 30's and really get it on in their 40's?
Poll
Would you consider/have engaged in premarital sex?
| Yes, already been there and done that. | 66% | 66% - 209 | ||||
| Yes, I will if I get the chance to/grow up. | 18% | 18% - 59 | ||||
| Undecided, need to learn more. | 5% | 5% - 17 | ||||
| Definitely not, it's wrong. | 9% | 9% - 29 | ||||
| Total: 314 | ||||||
ok i was 14 when i lost my 'innocences' and 10 years on i am still with my partner and have sex on a regular bases
in this day and age i think it is acceptable and right for people to have sex before marrage but i don't agree on the ones who hunt down and use vuranable women for just kicks/sex.
i have many friends who are a copule years younger than me who are still virgins but they all lie about it to their friends cause they feel embrassed about it.
but i say good for them, there are to many people just jumping straight into bed with ecah other not caring what could happen and have no feelings
too be honest i think we are starting to become a world of people with out feelings
we are all to busy with work/education and rushing home to bitch about whats on the tv
in this day and age i think it is acceptable and right for people to have sex before marrage but i don't agree on the ones who hunt down and use vuranable women for just kicks/sex.
i have many friends who are a copule years younger than me who are still virgins but they all lie about it to their friends cause they feel embrassed about it.
but i say good for them, there are to many people just jumping straight into bed with ecah other not caring what could happen and have no feelings
too be honest i think we are starting to become a world of people with out feelings
we are all to busy with work/education and rushing home to bitch about whats on the tv
the trick is to find a girl that's a lady on the streets and a freak between the sheetsATG wrote:
For me there were two types of girls, whores and girl friends. You can't love a whore and you usually can't treat your gf like a whore.
Premarital sex, eh? Is there any other kind?
I need around tree fiddy.
QFT.kr@cker wrote:
the trick is to find a girl that's a lady on the streets and a freak between the sheetsATG wrote:
For me there were two types of girls, whores and girl friends. You can't love a whore and you usually can't treat your gf like a whore.
I'm trying to get a picture in my head.. Freak on the streets and a lady between the sheetskr@cker wrote:
the trick is to find a girl that's a lady on the streets and a freak between the sheetsATG wrote:
For me there were two types of girls, whores and girl friends. You can't love a whore and you usually can't treat your gf like a whore.
Sounds like a girl I once knew. Seemed ok when I pulled her, turned into Quasimodo when we hit the sack.kr@cker wrote:
the trick is to find a girl that's a lady on the streets and a freak between the sheetsATG wrote:
For me there were two types of girls, whores and girl friends. You can't love a whore and you usually can't treat your gf like a whore.
I was raised that sex before marriage is wrong. Through high school and college the choice to wait helped me avoid consequences that others my age had to deal with: STDs, unexpected pregnancy, marrying a jerk because he got her pregnant, marrying a jerk because she’s pregnant, etc.
That said, I had to vote “been there, done that”. But it was with my fiancé about a week before our wedding. We should have waited, but after being together for 2 years, we chose not to wait any longer. My wife is the only woman I’ve ever made love to and I’m happy for that. Not having to worry about comparing my experience with other women is great. For me, it makes it special since it’s not something I’ve done with anyone else.
Judging other people is not what this should be about. The “rule” (or whatever label we want to give it) isn’t there to keep us from having fun. It’s there to protect us from unnecessary problems like I mentioned above: STDs, unexpected pregnancy between two uncommitted people, etc. It can be the makings of a very unstable family if the only commitment the couple has is that they have a child together. Then you lose the relationship building stage and the stress of parenthood is much harder to deal with. And you’re likely to end up with a divorce and a single mother. Then the kids don’t have a Mom and Dad who love each other, which is sad. I’ve seen it happen time and time again to people I care about. I wouldn’t want it to happen to anyone else. And don’t give me that “wear a condom” crap. Condoms fail and birth control is not bulletproof, either. Don’t even get me started on killing the baby because it’s not convenient to be a parent.
Oh and the test drive theory is total bs, too. You don’t have a relationship with your damn car and if you think sex is like driving a car, you've got real issues. That one was made up by a very horny 16 year old guy who has one thing in mind and no, it’s not a relationship. Those who have been in a committed relationship for awhile know that it’s not all about sex. *gasp* The sex is awesome, but there’s waaay more that factors into a real relationship. No sex is not dirty, but the consequences are not pleasant when you’re not responsible. Go ahead and bang everything in sight if you want, but don’t come running to me when you get her pregnant or you pick up something nasty from the flavor of the week.
That said, I had to vote “been there, done that”. But it was with my fiancé about a week before our wedding. We should have waited, but after being together for 2 years, we chose not to wait any longer. My wife is the only woman I’ve ever made love to and I’m happy for that. Not having to worry about comparing my experience with other women is great. For me, it makes it special since it’s not something I’ve done with anyone else.
Judging other people is not what this should be about. The “rule” (or whatever label we want to give it) isn’t there to keep us from having fun. It’s there to protect us from unnecessary problems like I mentioned above: STDs, unexpected pregnancy between two uncommitted people, etc. It can be the makings of a very unstable family if the only commitment the couple has is that they have a child together. Then you lose the relationship building stage and the stress of parenthood is much harder to deal with. And you’re likely to end up with a divorce and a single mother. Then the kids don’t have a Mom and Dad who love each other, which is sad. I’ve seen it happen time and time again to people I care about. I wouldn’t want it to happen to anyone else. And don’t give me that “wear a condom” crap. Condoms fail and birth control is not bulletproof, either. Don’t even get me started on killing the baby because it’s not convenient to be a parent.
Oh and the test drive theory is total bs, too. You don’t have a relationship with your damn car and if you think sex is like driving a car, you've got real issues. That one was made up by a very horny 16 year old guy who has one thing in mind and no, it’s not a relationship. Those who have been in a committed relationship for awhile know that it’s not all about sex. *gasp* The sex is awesome, but there’s waaay more that factors into a real relationship. No sex is not dirty, but the consequences are not pleasant when you’re not responsible. Go ahead and bang everything in sight if you want, but don’t come running to me when you get her pregnant or you pick up something nasty from the flavor of the week.
thats all well and good but you have a very limited opinion on this given the very fact that you have only been with one female. thats cool man, everybody is wired differently and to each his own. but Im pretty confident in saying that majority of human beings on this planet give into their animal instincts and behaviors more often than they allow bullshit rules of victorian era morality to take over their libido.Stingray24 wrote:
I was raised that sex before marriage is wrong. Through high school and college the choice to wait helped me avoid consequences that others my age had to deal with: STDs, unexpected pregnancy, marrying a jerk because he got her pregnant, marrying a jerk because she’s pregnant, etc.
That said, I had to vote “been there, done that”. But it was with my fiancé about a week before our wedding. We should have waited, but after being together for 2 years, we chose not to wait any longer. My wife is the only woman I’ve ever made love to and I’m happy for that. Not having to worry about comparing my experience with other women is great. For me, it makes it special since it’s not something I’ve done with anyone else.
Judging other people is not what this should be about. The “rule” (or whatever label we want to give it) isn’t there to keep us from having fun. It’s there to protect us from unnecessary problems like I mentioned above: STDs, unexpected pregnancy between two uncommitted people, etc. It can be the makings of a very unstable family if the only commitment the couple has is that they have a child together. Then you lose the relationship building stage and the stress of parenthood is much harder to deal with. And you’re likely to end up with a divorce and a single mother. Then the kids don’t have a Mom and Dad who love each other, which is sad. I’ve seen it happen time and time again to people I care about. I wouldn’t want it to happen to anyone else. And don’t give me that “wear a condom” crap. Condoms fail and birth control is not bulletproof, either. Don’t even get me started on killing the baby because it’s not convenient to be a parent.
Oh and the test drive theory is total bs, too. You don’t have a relationship with your damn car and if you think sex is like driving a car, you've got real issues. That one was made up by a very horny 16 year old guy who has one thing in mind and no, it’s not a relationship. Those who have been in a committed relationship for awhile know that it’s not all about sex. *gasp* The sex is awesome, but there’s waaay more that factors into a real relationship. No sex is not dirty, but the consequences are not pleasant when you’re not responsible. Go ahead and bang everything in sight if you want, but don’t come running to me when you get her pregnant or you pick up something nasty from the flavor of the week.
Last edited by GunSlinger OIF II (2006-10-10 08:35:50)
I would challenge anyone who is a parent to stand up and say outright that you certainly teach ( or will teach)abstinence to your children. American society is polluted with sex. If you were mature and had lived a little longer, or perhaps had a sense of unselfishness and humility, you would understand that a VERY small portion of your life is sex or sex related. As young men you are driven by the brain in your penis mostly, as you get older and a little wiser and see that intimacy and passion and love is what makes sex wonderful. I have sowed my oats, there was a time in my life when I was hot to trot. In hindsight, it was a complete waste of time and emotion. Not to mention the idea about the whole " you have slept with everyone that your partner has slept with", it's disgusting. It sounds good to say "use a condom", but guess what, that doesnt happen. You know it and I know it. Plus, condoms are not one hundred percent effective. There are WAY too many unqualified parents out there, adults and juvenilles alike.
Also, in response to the outright hatred expressed towards Christians, Muslims and Jews, it takes someone truly ignorant to be intolerant. No one attacked your stance on premarital sex, nor are we calling you an infidel or a heathen. I would challenge you to examine yourself before you stereotype and attack others. Religion and spirituality have been around just as long as free thought.
Also, in response to the outright hatred expressed towards Christians, Muslims and Jews, it takes someone truly ignorant to be intolerant. No one attacked your stance on premarital sex, nor are we calling you an infidel or a heathen. I would challenge you to examine yourself before you stereotype and attack others. Religion and spirituality have been around just as long as free thought.
who are you adressing?=ACE=TeX wrote:
I would challenge anyone who is a parent to stand up and say outright that you certainly teach ( or will teach)abstinence to your children. American society is polluted with sex. If you were mature and had lived a little longer, or perhaps had a sense of unselfishness and humility, you would understand that a VERY small portion of your life is sex or sex related. As young men you are driven by the brain in your penis mostly, as you get older and a little wiser and see that intimacy and passion and love is what makes sex wonderful. I have sowed my oats, there was a time in my life when I was hot to trot. In hindsight, it was a complete waste of time and emotion. Not to mention the idea about the whole " you have slept with everyone that your partner has slept with", it's disgusting. It sounds good to say "use a condom", but guess what, that doesnt happen. You know it and I know it. Plus, condoms are not one hundred percent effective. There are WAY too many unqualified parents out there, adults and juvenilles alike.
Also, in response to the outright hatred expressed towards Christians, Muslims and Jews, it takes someone truly ignorant to be intolerant. No one attacked your stance on premarital sex, nor are we calling you an infidel or a heathen. I would challenge you to examine yourself before you stereotype and attack others. Religion and spirituality have been around just as long as free thought.
If I hadn't karma'd you earlier you'd be getting a point for this post! LOL and Amen!GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
thats all well and good but you have a very limited opinion on this given the very fact that you have only been with one female. thats cool man, everybody is wired differently and to each his own. but Im pretty confident in saying that majority of human beings on this planet give into their animal instincts and behaviors more often than they allow bullshit rules of victorian era morality to take over their libido.Stingray24 wrote:
I was raised that sex before marriage is wrong. Through high school and college the choice to wait helped me avoid consequences that others my age had to deal with: STDs, unexpected pregnancy, marrying a jerk because he got her pregnant, marrying a jerk because she’s pregnant, etc.
That said, I had to vote “been there, done that”. But it was with my fiancé about a week before our wedding. We should have waited, but after being together for 2 years, we chose not to wait any longer. My wife is the only woman I’ve ever made love to and I’m happy for that. Not having to worry about comparing my experience with other women is great. For me, it makes it special since it’s not something I’ve done with anyone else.
Judging other people is not what this should be about. The “rule” (or whatever label we want to give it) isn’t there to keep us from having fun. It’s there to protect us from unnecessary problems like I mentioned above: STDs, unexpected pregnancy between two uncommitted people, etc. It can be the makings of a very unstable family if the only commitment the couple has is that they have a child together. Then you lose the relationship building stage and the stress of parenthood is much harder to deal with. And you’re likely to end up with a divorce and a single mother. Then the kids don’t have a Mom and Dad who love each other, which is sad. I’ve seen it happen time and time again to people I care about. I wouldn’t want it to happen to anyone else. And don’t give me that “wear a condom” crap. Condoms fail and birth control is not bulletproof, either. Don’t even get me started on killing the baby because it’s not convenient to be a parent.
Oh and the test drive theory is total bs, too. You don’t have a relationship with your damn car and if you think sex is like driving a car, you've got real issues. That one was made up by a very horny 16 year old guy who has one thing in mind and no, it’s not a relationship. Those who have been in a committed relationship for awhile know that it’s not all about sex. *gasp* The sex is awesome, but there’s waaay more that factors into a real relationship. No sex is not dirty, but the consequences are not pleasant when you’re not responsible. Go ahead and bang everything in sight if you want, but don’t come running to me when you get her pregnant or you pick up something nasty from the flavor of the week.
Last edited by CameronPoe (2006-10-10 08:43:27)
Apparently parenthood requires qualifications now. When did they begin to apply? Did they apply in the neolithic era too?=ACE=TeX wrote:
I would challenge anyone who is a parent to stand up and say outright that you certainly teach ( or will teach)abstinence to your children. American society is polluted with sex. If you were mature and had lived a little longer, or perhaps had a sense of unselfishness and humility, you would understand that a VERY small portion of your life is sex or sex related. As young men you are driven by the brain in your penis mostly, as you get older and a little wiser and see that intimacy and passion and love is what makes sex wonderful. I have sowed my oats, there was a time in my life when I was hot to trot. In hindsight, it was a complete waste of time and emotion. Not to mention the idea about the whole " you have slept with everyone that your partner has slept with", it's disgusting. It sounds good to say "use a condom", but guess what, that doesnt happen. You know it and I know it. Plus, condoms are not one hundred percent effective. There are WAY too many unqualified parents out there, adults and juvenilles alike.
Also, in response to the outright hatred expressed towards Christians, Muslims and Jews, it takes someone truly ignorant to be intolerant. No one attacked your stance on premarital sex, nor are we calling you an infidel or a heathen. I would challenge you to examine yourself before you stereotype and attack others. Religion and spirituality have been around just as long as free thought.
Of the various one night stands (~7) I've had, I have NEVER went in without a condom. If you can't manage this basic task then you only have YOURSELF to blame. It isn't exactly much of an argument against pre-marital sex. I caught scabies off one bitch - that doesn't require actual copulation at all: do you suggest men and women don't touch before marriage too?
I can't believe this thread is even happening.
Last edited by CameronPoe (2006-10-10 08:48:45)
LOL tell me about it. people think that this supposed wave of premarital sex is something new. I can pretty much guarantee that people were fucking before they were getting married long time ago.CameronPoe wrote:
I can't believe this thread is even happening.
Last edited by GunSlinger OIF II (2006-10-10 08:54:12)
I disagree. My opinion is not limited by the fact I've chosen to be with one woman. I don't have to do 50 women to witness the repercussions of "animal instincts and behaviors". I've seen other people have to deal with the aftermath of those choices. A few of them are people I care about very much, others are people who I'm just acquainted with. All of them wish they'd used the brain instead of their crotch and not been so stupid. I say what I do in hopes that others will avoid the same problems. But what do I know? People are horny!GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
thats all well and good but you have a very limited opinion on this given the very fact that you have only been with one female. thats cool man, everybody is wired differently and to each his own. but Im pretty confident in saying that majority of human beings on this planet give into their animal instincts and behaviors more often than they allow bullshit rules of victorian era morality to take over their libido.
again, you are only speaking from a limited point of view. i could say the same things about myself and hundreds of people i know that will believe the exact opposite of you and your circle of friends.Stingray24 wrote:
I disagree. My opinion is not limited by the fact I've chosen to be with one woman. I don't have to do 50 women to witness the repercussions of "animal instincts and behaviors". I've seen other people have to deal with the aftermath of those choices. A few of them are people I care about very much, others are people who I'm just acquainted with. All of them wish they'd used the brain instead of their crotch and not been so stupid. I say what I do in hopes that others will avoid the same problems. But what do I know? People are horny!GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
thats all well and good but you have a very limited opinion on this given the very fact that you have only been with one female. thats cool man, everybody is wired differently and to each his own. but Im pretty confident in saying that majority of human beings on this planet give into their animal instincts and behaviors more often than they allow bullshit rules of victorian era morality to take over their libido.
I dont have to fly in an airplane to know that people crash. pregnancy is avoidable. STD's are avoidable. if people cant be responsible about there loins then they get burned and shouldnt have been fucking in the first place. but it should not be societies place to decide what an individual does with the natural body parts that they were born with.
No one said premarital sex is new and no one said people weren't. We humans haven't changed much, but with all the different media types surrounding us with sex, you have to admit it creates a much different dynamic in our society.GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
people think that this supposed wave of premarital sex is something new. I can pretty much guarantee that people were fucking before they were getting married long time ago.
Society isn't deciding anything for anyone in our day and age. People are doing whoever they want with their parts and no one's getting arrested for having multiple partners. Freedom is not being taken away in any way, shape, or form. That's where the problems start, because everyone is not responsible! Society has to pick up the bill when people "do what they want with their parts" and we end up with unwed single mothers and fatherless kids. That's that burn you were talking about. Wow, nice tradeoff for the mothers and children. So what to do? I'm gonna do my best to teach my son and daughter to wait until their married so they can avoid causing themselves problems. And I'll also hope they don't run into your horny kids doing whatever they want with their parts like you taught them.
Last edited by Stingray24 (2006-10-10 09:36:18)
thought we were talking about consensual sex not rape, child molestation, and polygamyStingray24 wrote:
No one said premarital sex is new and no one said people weren't. We humans haven't changed much, but with all the different media types surrounding us with sex, you have to admit it creates a much different dynamic in our society.GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
people think that this supposed wave of premarital sex is something new. I can pretty much guarantee that people were fucking before they were getting married long time ago.
I don't know how you can say society is deciding anything for anyone in our day and age. People are doing whoever they want and no one's getting arrested for having multiple partners, except when they're HIV positive. Some people start hurting children with the parts they were born with and we have to stop that, too.
We are, I edited my post to leave that out. Though "doing whatever you want with your parts" means different things to different people. If we're to be accepting, who are we to judge if they like grade schoolers?Colfax wrote:
thought we were talking about consensual sex not rape, child molestation, and polygamyStingray24 wrote:
No one said premarital sex is new and no one said people weren't. We humans haven't changed much, but with all the different media types surrounding us with sex, you have to admit it creates a much different dynamic in our society.GunSlinger OIF II wrote:
people think that this supposed wave of premarital sex is something new. I can pretty much guarantee that people were fucking before they were getting married long time ago.
I don't know how you can say society is deciding anything for anyone in our day and age. People are doing whoever they want and no one's getting arrested for having multiple partners, except when they're HIV positive. Some people start hurting children with the parts they were born with and we have to stop that, too.
This is not a good thread idea for this community as it is a sacred and intimate topic whereas most of this community will shit on you for doing such a thing because they lack basic human abilities to be sensitive and mature.
But be it as it may, I will explain my thoughts on this topic.
Having not reserved myself for my wife, having wasted my purity on girlfriends prior to marriage, I lost out on alot. And yes, I would have gladly given up my sexual "talent" in trade for moral purity before marriage. here's why anyone should do so.
When you commit to someone to be theirs and only theirs forever, there is but one big gift to bring to that altar of commitment...your virtue. Sure virtue is a thing of the past, unfortunately, but it's worth and value are second to none. If you are able to show restraint and do so knowing that after you are legally wed, you and your spouse will be able to share your most intimate, most personal, and most gratifying experiences with each other. Being married is to become ONE with your spouse. This also is lost in today's world somewhat, but those who understand this simple truth know how sacred and beautiful it is to be one with your spouse. The purpose for being ONE with your spouse is so that you can make all your life's decisions together, enjoy the benefits of each decision and learn from each mistake made..together. Among those decisions comes the awesome and untouchable procreative powers given you to add to your family. And anyone with children should (hopefully) know that it gets better..even beyond description, when you build your family.
Anyway, abusing this procreative power outside of marriage, is just that..abuse of procreative power which should be reserved for married people having committed to be with each other forever.
But be it as it may, I will explain my thoughts on this topic.
Having not reserved myself for my wife, having wasted my purity on girlfriends prior to marriage, I lost out on alot. And yes, I would have gladly given up my sexual "talent" in trade for moral purity before marriage. here's why anyone should do so.
When you commit to someone to be theirs and only theirs forever, there is but one big gift to bring to that altar of commitment...your virtue. Sure virtue is a thing of the past, unfortunately, but it's worth and value are second to none. If you are able to show restraint and do so knowing that after you are legally wed, you and your spouse will be able to share your most intimate, most personal, and most gratifying experiences with each other. Being married is to become ONE with your spouse. This also is lost in today's world somewhat, but those who understand this simple truth know how sacred and beautiful it is to be one with your spouse. The purpose for being ONE with your spouse is so that you can make all your life's decisions together, enjoy the benefits of each decision and learn from each mistake made..together. Among those decisions comes the awesome and untouchable procreative powers given you to add to your family. And anyone with children should (hopefully) know that it gets better..even beyond description, when you build your family.
Anyway, abusing this procreative power outside of marriage, is just that..abuse of procreative power which should be reserved for married people having committed to be with each other forever.
Commitment can't be retroactive.IRONCHEF wrote:
This is not a good thread idea for this community as it is a sacred and intimate topic whereas most of this community will shit on you for doing such a thing because they lack basic human abilities to be sensitive and mature.
But be it as it may, I will explain my thoughts on this topic.
Having not reserved myself for my wife, having wasted my purity on girlfriends prior to marriage, I lost out on alot. And yes, I would have gladly given up my sexual "talent" in trade for moral purity before marriage. here's why anyone should do so.
When you commit to someone to be theirs and only theirs forever, there is but one big gift to bring to that altar of commitment...your virtue. Sure virtue is a thing of the past, unfortunately, but it's worth and value are second to none. If you are able to show restraint and do so knowing that after you are legally wed, you and your spouse will be able to share your most intimate, most personal, and most gratifying experiences with each other. Being married is to become ONE with your spouse. This also is lost in today's world somewhat, but those who understand this simple truth know how sacred and beautiful it is to be one with your spouse. The purpose for being ONE with your spouse is so that you can make all your life's decisions together, enjoy the benefits of each decision and learn from each mistake made..together. Among those decisions comes the awesome and untouchable procreative powers given you to add to your family. And anyone with children should (hopefully) know that it gets better..even beyond description, when you build your family.
Anyway, abusing this procreative power outside of marriage, is just that..abuse of procreative power which should be reserved for married people having committed to be with each other forever.
+1 Ironchef, well said.
I ain't ever gettin' married, so premarital is the only option.
I didn't say it could be. I am saying that those who have the choice should maintain their virtue so as to offer the best wedding gift possible. I wished I had done that.
Do you cheat your wife? No? Are you a good father? Yes? Then who cares what you did before?IRONCHEF wrote:
I didn't say it could be. I am saying that those who have the choice should maintain their virtue so as to offer the best wedding gift possible. I wished I had done that.