Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6835|SE London

Damn! I missed it.

Oh well.

It's repeated on More4 this Fri and Sat  @ 2100 and on 21/10 @ 2000

Showing on Channel 4 on 19/10 @ 2200
schofield
Member
+28|6832|west yorkshire UK
i just think they are trying to jinx bush. hope it works can't stand the mofo
Ikarti
Banned - for ever.
+231|6963|Wilmington, DE, US

schofield wrote:

i just think they are trying to jinx bush. hope it works can't stand the mofo
I can't either, but what would it accomplish.
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,053|7025|PNW

=OBS= EstebanRey wrote:

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Yeah, but he wasn't popping any birthmarked-forehead either. But the Russians still didn't care too much for the movie, by the way.
So you're saying it is better for a movie to portray the killings of hundreds of men as oppsoed to one and all because of social status? Depiction of 1 World leader's death = wrong, depiction of of lots of soldiers dying = right.  That's some weird logic and I really hope you don't value your life lower than anyone else's because I certainly don't regard Tony Blair as more deserving to life than me (especially seeing as i have never been responsible for hundreds of thousand of Iraqi and British deaths!!)
Excuse me, but hundreds of thousands? Yeah, and the US lost millions of troops in Vietnam, too.

But no, I don't feel bad about mass fictional destruction films, because the characters are just that: fictional. That's why I didn't flinch when the flying saucer blew up cities in ID4, or when New York got flooded in Day After Tomorrow. When a fictional figurehead gets killed to further the plot of a film, no tears are shed, but I do question the appropriateness of a fictional depiction of a real person's murder in the future.

Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2006-10-10 17:38:35)

kr@cker
Bringin' Sexy Back!
+581|6803|Southeastern USA
ok i had to avoid this thread like the plague earlier today, especially at work, lest the men in black come knocking at my door since the POTUS himself flew in to the base, but he's gone now, and my sphincter can relax, honestly as long as they aren't doing a how-to on assassination, i don't really see how it matters much, the inclusion of bush himself was just a cheap publicity stunt, you know, maybe to get internerds talking about it and advertising for them like we are doing now, any other time a show/movie is made broaching the topic, they usually (at least as far as I can remember) have the decency to use a fictitional name out of respect for the political official referenced and their family
Aenima_Eyes
Member
+20|6905

=OBS= EstebanRey wrote:

UnOriginalNuttah wrote:

EDIT: And lol @ the US government worrying about the dramatisation of the assassination of a president, that's just a minor pretext for to the real message.  What this film is really saying they will mercilessly fuck over innocent people to help sway public opinion in the war on terror.  Funny they didn't seem to notice or mind that bit.
Spot on!  The assassination was at the start of the film and the whole thing was about the aftermath and how the US (or UK probably) government would deal with the shooting of it's leader in the current climate.  If the film was only about a mock assassination, it would have happened at the end with the previous part of the film being the build up so I also think the Republican party aren't really seeing the bigger picture of the film.

Perhaps fittingly, the US reaction to this film proves the point that the production intended to make; that the US likes to simplify things into good/evil 100% right/100% wrong with no inbetween.
Kind of like you liking to simply American beliefs?  Asshat alert!!!
chefvolrath
feeding the BF2S community since 2005.....
+5|6944
to be honest i hope they do shoot the president, hes a walking cluster fuck,,,, and yes i am an american
=OBS= EstebanRey
Member
+256|6804|Oxford, England, UK, EU, Earth

Aenima_Eyes wrote:

=OBS= EstebanRey wrote:

UnOriginalNuttah wrote:

EDIT: And lol @ the US government worrying about the dramatisation of the assassination of a president, that's just a minor pretext for to the real message.  What this film is really saying they will mercilessly fuck over innocent people to help sway public opinion in the war on terror.  Funny they didn't seem to notice or mind that bit.
Spot on!  The assassination was at the start of the film and the whole thing was about the aftermath and how the US (or UK probably) government would deal with the shooting of it's leader in the current climate.  If the film was only about a mock assassination, it would have happened at the end with the previous part of the film being the build up so I also think the Republican party aren't really seeing the bigger picture of the film.

Perhaps fittingly, the US reaction to this film proves the point that the production intended to make; that the US likes to simplify things into good/evil 100% right/100% wrong with no inbetween.
Kind of like you liking to simply American beliefs?  Asshat alert!!!
So I'm not allowed to listen to your government's reactions and make a judgement?  I was commenting purely on your Government's reaction, not the US public's, and if you're denying that Bush likes to use good guys vs evil folk rhetoric, you really need to watch more of his speeches.

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