CameronPoe
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usmarine2005 wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

America Sucks
For those of you who prefer cliffs notes.
LOL. How hilarious! Ha ha ha. I've been to the US many times. It's a good place to go for a holiday and a good time. The people, by and large, are very friendly. Their government is a debacle however.

Argumenting on this forum has now descended to the likes of this petty nonsense:

usmarine2005 wrote:

Me like Bush. He my friend. He potect me fom bad man with beard.

Last edited by CameronPoe (2006-10-09 09:32:22)

antin0de
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aardfrith wrote:

usmarine2005 wrote:

aardfrith wrote:


So when was it a terrorist state before?  It was an aggressive state under Saddam but he abhored terrorists.  Still, I guess even the USMC can't be right all the time.
Maybe we consider rape rooms, torture rooms, and ethnic cleansing a form of terrorism.
If you want to consider torture a form of terrorism then by all means, do it.  The US under George Bush used/uses(?) torture so the US is a terrorist state, no?

Rape is a crime and should be treated as such.  Ethnic cleansing?  That's bad too but is it terrorism?  Very probably.
I think we're getting a little liberal with the term "Terrorism."  Pretty soon we'll be calling purse snatchers terrorists.

Ethnic cleansing by a dictator is not terrorism, it's tyranny.

Terrorism's most basic definition: "Threat by example."
usmarine
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CameronPoe wrote:

usmarine2005 wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

America Sucks
For those of you who prefer cliffs notes.
LOL. How hilarious! Ha ha ha. I've been to the US many times. It's a good place to go for a holiday and a good time. The people, by and large, are very friendly. Their government is a debacle however.

Argumenting on this forum has now descended to the likes of this petty nonsense:

usmarine2005 wrote:

Me like Bush. He my friend. He potect me fom bad man with beard.
No....I do not like Bush...at all.  But newsflash, the govenrment IS the people.
CameronPoe
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usmarine2005 wrote:

But newsflash, the govenrment IS the people.
LOLOLOLOLORAMA!! Tell that to the near 50% of people who voted for Kerry. LOLOLOL

Last edited by CameronPoe (2006-10-09 09:36:00)

usmarine
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CameronPoe wrote:

LOLOLOLOLORAMA!! Tell that to the near 50% of people who voted for Kerry. LOLOLOL
Government employees are US citizens correct?  They are voted in by American citizens correct?  Popular vote does not matter, it is the electoral college that matters.
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usmarine2005 wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

Frankly an apology from this guy isn't worth the steam of my piss.
Just say America sucks and leave the thread.  Thank you.
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usmarine2005 wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

LOLOLOLOLORAMA!! Tell that to the near 50% of people who voted for Kerry. LOLOLOL
Government employees are US citizens correct?  They are voted in by American citizens correct?  Popular vote does not matter, it is the electoral college that matters.
LOL

No it's DIEBOLD voting machines - that matter.
antin0de
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Yeah, combined with the fact that a majority of states that use e-voting machines do not require paper records for them.
Fancy_Pollux
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CameronPoe, you're really starting to digress to the level of PRiMACORD, IRONCHEF, and jonsimon.
Cybargs
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Fancy_Pollux wrote:

CameronPoe, you're really starting to digress to the level of PRiMACORD, IRONCHEF, and jonsimon.
He is already at their level now.
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IRONCHEF
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You know, I've long heard the cliché insult given to people who protest/question those leading this country or the manner with which our government conducts itself in the world by saying "love it or leave it" or even more annoying is the insult suggesting that we're the 'most free nation' in the world.  They think that the USA is the most righteous, most liberated country in the world.  It's so funny to then ask those ignoramuses if they've ever been to another country and hear them stutter and then reply "hey, love it or leave it man!"  So sad that we are a slogan spewing nation of ignorant fools.

I remember returning to the USA after living in south america for a couple years.  I remember having WAAAAY more culture shock returning to the states than it was arriving in Brazil.  What struck me was arriving in SFO airport and seeing and hearing my fellow americans talking so loudly, using so much air when they talk, and then noticing the small differences of how we don't greet, salute, or give way to others.  We don't smile at others or give due respect.  I realized then how much I loved the Brazilian people and how sweet, humble, and kind they were compared to our rich, arrogant, loud, obnoxious, selfish, and proud people.  I've since lost most of the good influence i had gained from Brazil, but i'm aware of it at least.

I think the ONLY good thing our country exports is aid to those in need.  And that alone is something that comes from private citizens, church and other groups.  And the US has not cornered that market, though we seem to think we're the only ones who donate cash, goods, and services to those in need.

Last edited by IRONCHEF (2006-10-09 09:59:42)

Fancy_Pollux
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CameronPoe wrote:

Embargo on Cuba: Those darn Cubans - such a threat to the rest of the world....
This pseudo-revolutionary guise you're trying to maintain on these forums is really getting old and tiresome. The Cubans have already proven that they are, in fact, a threat to the rest of the world. Remember the Cuban missile crisis? That very same regime still stands today.
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I'm starting to think poe and Ironchef are the same person... Since after we talked about Ironchef, he logs on...
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IRONCHEF
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No, we're quite different if you compare our writing style, our opinions, etc.  We agree alot, but i'm the anti-evolution loon (waiting for pollux to shamelessly post his favorite ironchef clip) jesus camp lovin' intolerant word-jumbling maniac!
DaReJa
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IRONCHEF wrote:

No, we're quite different if you compare our writing style, our opinions, etc.  We agree alot, but i'm the anti-evolution loon (waiting for pollux to shamelessly post his favorite ironchef clip) jesus camp lovin' intolerant word-jumbling maniac!
And you post in too many BF2 Related Threads to be Cameron Poe........
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Cybargs
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DaReJa wrote:

IRONCHEF wrote:

No, we're quite different if you compare our writing style, our opinions, etc.  We agree alot, but i'm the anti-evolution loon (waiting for pollux to shamelessly post his favorite ironchef clip) jesus camp lovin' intolerant word-jumbling maniac!
And you post in too many BF2 Related Threads to be Cameron Poe........
Or they could be clones! ZOMG!
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Fancy_Pollux
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IRONCHEF wrote:

You know, I've long heard the cliché insult given to people who protest/question those leading this country or the manner with which our government conducts itself in the world by saying "love it or leave it" or even more annoying is the insult suggesting that we're the 'most free nation' in the world.  They think that the USA is the most righteous, most liberated country in the world.  It's so funny to then ask those ignoramuses if they've ever been to another country and hear them stutter and then reply "hey, love it or leave it man!"  So sad that we are a slogan spewing nation of ignorant fools.

I remember returning to the USA after living in south america for a couple years.  I remember having WAAAAY more culture shock returning to the states than it was arriving in Brazil.  What struck me was arriving in SFO airport and seeing and hearing my fellow americans talking so loudly, using so much air when they talk, and then noticing the small differences of how we don't greet, salute, or give way to others.  We don't smile at others or give due respect.  I realized then how much I loved the Brazilian people and how sweet, humble, and kind they were compared to our rich, arrogant, loud, obnoxious, selfish, and proud people.  I've since lost most of the good influence i had gained from Brazil, but i'm aware of it at least.

I think the ONLY good thing our country exports is aid to those in need.  And that alone is something that comes from private citizens, church and other groups.  And the US has not cornered that market, though we seem to think we're the only ones who donate cash, goods, and services to those in need.
Let's not forget our religious fanatics!

IRONCHEF wrote:

Oh, and I'd love for you to cite some of the "science" that proves evolution.  Then I'd love for you to tackle the truth that scientist are just dumb, slow, vain men and women trying to discover how God created things, seasons, time and space.  They get it now and then, but mostly they are dealing with adversaries beyond their understanding.
If you think aid soley comes from private citizens and *laugh* churches, you are sorely misinformed. Then again, you also think science is a tool of the devil.

IRONCHEF wrote:

No, we're quite different if you compare our writing style, our opinions, etc.  We agree alot, but i'm the anti-evolution loon (waiting for pollux to shamelessly post his favorite ironchef clip) jesus camp lovin' intolerant word-jumbling maniac!
Done.

Last edited by Fancy_Pollux (2006-10-09 10:12:28)

IRONCHEF
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Uh, catholic charities, the mormons, and red cross are the first to mobilize and deploy aid, and they are the largest contributors the US has, and has been for many years and disasters.  Do you think it comes from elsewhere, like from the united atheists of hell or something?  or perhaps the evolutionist cave crawlers for aid?
[UTQ]_Ausch88
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LOL

brainwashed american

you keep bombing those people, keep sending money and weapons to ISRAEL to help them shoot at palestinians kids.. and you think that they will never retaliate?

wahhhh they bombed our warships... wahhh they attacked our buildings wahhhhhhhhh

stop messing with the world and you will start living in peace

IRAQ was the best friend of the USA before you invaded you dumb arse.. saddam was dealing with the terrorists , he was kicking their butt.. he was not a religious freak like osama and al qaida

and now, when you will retreat from IRAQ, it will become a new heaven for terrorists..

you removed the only guy on your side from the middle east..  now IRAN will probably swallow IRAQ

plz tell me that you are not stupid like your president..  WMD in iraq, WMD in IRAN

WHAT ABOUT NORTH KOREA????
[F7F7]KiNG_KaDaFFHi
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Democracy is not to controll ppl with guns. Seems to me many americans feel like freedom is a thing only possesed  by americans and they need to share it with the rest of the world with their magic freedomspells....but i guess you are mixing "freedom" with "exploitation". Kinda like you are mixing up "defense" with "offense".

And the world has done fine before the forming of the U.S....after all it´s not such a old nation. Perhaps the U.S need time to learn what other nations/states/countries already has learned.

and for what i remember the russians capped the berlinflag.
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Fancy_Pollux wrote:

CameronPoe, you're really starting to digress to the level of PRiMACORD, IRONCHEF, and jonsimon.
New dictionary Fancy ?


Do a little research on the Pearl Harbor incident Cyborg and you will find several things have been uncovered lately - like it wasn`t a surprise attack to give you a hint ! The Japanese saw it as last resort to attack the US after massive pressure from the US government. And the the intelligence agency of the time had first hand knowledge to where and when the Japanese would attack !

Where would we be today if the US didn`t invade Europe ? ..... that`s such a hypo question i almost puke whenever i hear it, the turn of the tide in Europe was in 1940 - 41 and the invasion was in 1944. The German high command canceled Operation Sea Lion in 1941 cause they came to the decision England was to great a risk to attempt an invasion, battle of Britain decimated the German Luftwaffe to a degree it would never ever regain its strength again ..... maybe the war would have lasted another 1 or 2 or maybe the Russian counter offensive after the battle of Stalingrad would have gone just as planned anyhow - remember the Russians ended the war in Europe with the "aid" of the other allies not because of them.

@Usmarine : Most of the "excuses" sound pretty lame to me and i agree with Cameron on most of his conclusions in this thread - time for the US to end their world police self-appointed role and start acting according to the UN like the rest of the world does -- well most of them at least !

With that said and heading back to Iraq - the US commitment as it is now must continue, the mess made in Iraq must be cleaned up - i only wished a few more security council members would chip in !


I`m fond of Americans and have a couple of friends there and came close to moving there at one point, but you cant expect the rest of the world to be equally selfcentered and agree with you all the time, you mostly have support from the majority of Europe but dont count on it for every stunt you make !


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usmarine2005 wrote:

aardfrith wrote:

usmarine2005 wrote:


Maybe we consider rape rooms, torture rooms, and ethnic cleansing a form of terrorism.
If you want to consider torture a form of terrorism then by all means, do it.  The US under George Bush used/uses(?) torture so the US is a terrorist state, no?

Rape is a crime and should be treated as such.  Ethnic cleansing?  That's bad too but is it terrorism?  Very probably.
Name the torture we used?  Examples please.  Panties on the head?  Barking dogs?  Sleep deprivation? Ohhhhhhhhhhh.
You forgot the pyramid of buttcrack!
Fancy_Pollux
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[UTQ]_Ausch88 wrote:

LOL

brainwashed american

you keep bombing those people, keep sending money and weapons to ISRAEL to help them shoot at palestinians kids.. and you think that they will never retaliate?

wahhhh they bombed our warships... wahhh they attacked our buildings wahhhhhhhhh

stop messing with the world and you will start living in peace

IRAQ was the best friend of the USA before you invaded you dumb arse.. saddam was dealing with the terrorists , he was kicking their butt.. he was not a religious freak like osama and al qaida

and now, when you will retreat from IRAQ, it will become a new heaven for terrorists..

you removed the only guy on your side from the middle east..  now IRAN will probably swallow IRAQ

plz tell me that you are not stupid like your president..  WMD in iraq, WMD in IRAN

WHAT ABOUT NORTH KOREA????
Good God. Please refrain from having offspring.

Last edited by Fancy_Pollux (2006-10-09 10:15:57)

DaReJa
BF2s US Server Admin
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Fancy_Pollux wrote:

[UTQ]_Ausch88 wrote:

LOL

brainwashed american

you keep bombing those people, keep sending money and weapons to ISRAEL to help them shoot at palestinians kids.. and you think that they will never retaliate?

wahhhh they bombed our warships... wahhh they attacked our buildings wahhhhhhhhh

stop messing with the world and you will start living in peace

IRAQ was the best friend of the USA before you invaded you dumb arse.. saddam was dealing with the terrorists , he was kicking their butt.. he was not a religious freak like osama and al qaida

and now, when you will retreat from IRAQ, it will become a new heaven for terrorists..

you removed the only guy on your side from the middle east..  now IRAN will probably swallow IRAQ

plz tell me that you are not stupid like your president..  WMD in iraq, WMD in IRAN

WHAT ABOUT NORTH KOREA????
Good God. Please refrain from having offspring.
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Cybargs
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DaReJa wrote:

Fancy_Pollux wrote:

[UTQ]_Ausch88 wrote:

LOL

brainwashed american

you keep bombing those people, keep sending money and weapons to ISRAEL to help them shoot at palestinians kids.. and you think that they will never retaliate?

wahhhh they bombed our warships... wahhh they attacked our buildings wahhhhhhhhh

stop messing with the world and you will start living in peace

IRAQ was the best friend of the USA before you invaded you dumb arse.. saddam was dealing with the terrorists , he was kicking their butt.. he was not a religious freak like osama and al qaida

and now, when you will retreat from IRAQ, it will become a new heaven for terrorists..

you removed the only guy on your side from the middle east..  now IRAN will probably swallow IRAQ

plz tell me that you are not stupid like your president..  WMD in iraq, WMD in IRAN

WHAT ABOUT NORTH KOREA????
Good God. Please refrain from having offspring.
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