No. Sorry. After you said Gitmo was worse than anything Castro has ever done, I stopped reading what you say.CameronPoe wrote:
What did you expect? Untempered adulation? This is an open forum. I thought America was about free speech. You might try reading some of the points I made.usmarine2005 wrote:
Just say America sucks and leave the thread. Thank you.CameronPoe wrote:
Frankly an apology from this guy isn't worth the steam of my piss.
right on
Well, stick your head in the sand if you really want. Castro has committed crimes as have the US.usmarine2005 wrote:
No. Sorry. After you said Gitmo was worse than anything Castro has ever done, I stopped reading what you say.CameronPoe wrote:
What did you expect? Untempered adulation? This is an open forum. I thought America was about free speech. You might try reading some of the points I made.usmarine2005 wrote:
Just say America sucks and leave the thread. Thank you.
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Hey spin master. That is not what I said.CameronPoe wrote:
Well, stick your head in the sand if you really want. Castro has committed crimes as have the US.usmarine2005 wrote:
No. Sorry. After you said Gitmo was worse than anything Castro has ever done, I stopped reading what you say.CameronPoe wrote:
What did you expect? Untempered adulation? This is an open forum. I thought America was about free speech. You might try reading some of the points I made.
I've actually done a bit of research and nowadays the worst crime Castro commits is holding what are known as 'prisoners of conscience', i.e. activists opposed to the communist government. They are held pretty much indefinitely (eventually they are released on health grounds), as in Gitmo, although unlike Gitmo they are not subjected to torture. Hence my assertion.usmarine2005 wrote:
Hey spin master. That is not what I said.CameronPoe wrote:
Well, stick your head in the sand if you really want. Castro has committed crimes as have the US.usmarine2005 wrote:
No. Sorry. After you said Gitmo was worse than anything Castro has ever done, I stopped reading what you say.
If you want crimes, we should start cutting our prisoners heads off.CameronPoe wrote:
I've actually done a bit of research and nowadays the worst crime Castro commits is holding what are known as 'prisoners of conscience', i.e. activists opposed to the communist government. They are held pretty much indefinitely (eventually they are released on health grounds), as in Gitmo, although unlike Gitmo they are not subjected to torture. Hence my assertion.usmarine2005 wrote:
Hey spin master. That is not what I said.CameronPoe wrote:
Well, stick your head in the sand if you really want. Castro has committed crimes as have the US.
Or tie their arms and legs together, then toss them off of three story buildings.Miller wrote:
If you want crimes, we should start cutting our prisoners heads off.
Again, neither policies of the Cuban government. You two are seemingly advocates of becoming morally equivalent to those depraved monsters in the middle east.
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We were not talking about Cuba.CameronPoe wrote:
Again, neither policies of the Cuban government. You two are seemingly advocates of becoming morally equivalent to those depraved monsters in the middle east.
Quite an apoplogy indeed. I didn't get one thing, is he sorry? Btw, what is marine style, I don't give a shit for anyone and I only care about USMC?
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I´m sorry for all warmonging,aggresive and imperialist americans.
I apologize for neutral countries that did not learn anything from the 1940's.[F7F7]KiNG_KaDaFFHi wrote:
I´m sorry for all warmonging,aggresive and imperialist americans.
I'm sorry for all of the brainwashed Lieutenant Generals of the USMC.
kessel! wrote:
I'm sorry for all of the brainwashed Lieutenant Generals of the USMC.
That does not sound like brainwashing to me. Some of it might sound like it, but this is fact. We get fired on from a mosque, but we can't attack. If we destroy a mosque, you would be the first one on here saying something. yet, never saw anyone say anything about this. You sir sound like the one who is brainwashed also.usmarine2005 wrote:
I am sorry they didn't apologize for driving a jet into the World Trade Center that collapsed and severely damaged Saint Nicholas Greek Orthodox Church - one of our Holy Sites.
whilst i do agree with most of it, i have to bitch about the second part of this:
I am sorry that Yassar Arafat was kicked out of every Arab country and high-jacked the Palestinian "cause."
despite everyone thinking that he would worsen the Arab/Israeli conflict, once in power Arafat did calm the conflict down considerably even though Israel refused to deal with him, the Palestinians do have a good cause, it is the league of nations and *cough* Britain's fault, that Palestine got divided up and half of it given to the Israelis anyway...
I am sorry that Yassar Arafat was kicked out of every Arab country and high-jacked the Palestinian "cause."
despite everyone thinking that he would worsen the Arab/Israeli conflict, once in power Arafat did calm the conflict down considerably even though Israel refused to deal with him, the Palestinians do have a good cause, it is the league of nations and *cough* Britain's fault, that Palestine got divided up and half of it given to the Israelis anyway...
Well it´s not like the US did enter the wars in the 40´s by it´s own will...remember pearl harbor? I thought that america stayed neutral until they were attacked? You think the US would have "saved the entire world" if that attack didn´t happen?
And the very same agenda and politics used then are used today for making attacks on "enemies".
"We need to take the battle to our enemies."
"They have WMD´s"
It´s all bullshit...face it....empires need recourses for staying alive...the best way for getting thoose are going to war...
i rememer a word "lebensraum"....
And the very same agenda and politics used then are used today for making attacks on "enemies".
"We need to take the battle to our enemies."
"They have WMD´s"
It´s all bullshit...face it....empires need recourses for staying alive...the best way for getting thoose are going to war...
i rememer a word "lebensraum"....
I was waiting for that. America stays neutral, people bitch. America gets involved, the same people bitch. Some of you are worse than a woman on the rag.[F7F7]KiNG_KaDaFFHi wrote:
Well it´s not like the US did enter the wars in the 40´s by it´s own will...remember pearl harbor? I thought that america stayed neutral until they were attacked? You think the US would have "saved the entire world" if that attack didn´t happen?
And the very same agenda and politics used then are used today for making attacks on "enemies".
"We need to take the battle to our enemies."
"They have WMD´s"
It´s all bullshit...face it....empires need recourses for staying alive...the best way for getting thoose are going to war...
i rememer a word "lebensraum"....
People love to bitch about America, they just want someone to blame for their problems.usmarine2005 wrote:
I was waiting for that. America stays neutral, people bitch. America gets involved, the same people bitch. Some of you are worse than a woman on the rag.[F7F7]KiNG_KaDaFFHi wrote:
Well it´s not like the US did enter the wars in the 40´s by it´s own will...remember pearl harbor? I thought that america stayed neutral until they were attacked? You think the US would have "saved the entire world" if that attack didn´t happen?
And the very same agenda and politics used then are used today for making attacks on "enemies".
"We need to take the battle to our enemies."
"They have WMD´s"
It´s all bullshit...face it....empires need recourses for staying alive...the best way for getting thoose are going to war...
i rememer a word "lebensraum"....
America didn't join the war just because of pearl harbor... they also joined for the reason that their ships are sending equipments to aid the British, which were getting sunked by German U-boats... Britain would have fallen if the Americans didn't send aid.
Earth would be a world of hurt if America didn't do what it does.
Looks like the good LTG Pitman is a little out of touch. He failed to apologize for the decades old foreign policy we've inflicted on the arab, persian, asian, and african countries. Decades of foreign policy that he's enforced along his path to being a politician wannabe. Poor old fella.
Yeah. How exactly?rawls2 wrote:
Earth would be a world of hurt if America didn't do what it does.
What exactly does it do?
Corporate exploitation of Latin America: world of hurt for the vast majority of people there who are empoverished as a result.
'Liberation' of Iraq: Iraqis pushed from one world of hurt to another even greater one.
Embargo on Cuba: Those darn Cubans - such a threat to the rest of the world....
Numerous CIA-sponsored Latin America country demolitions...
Training the original Al Qaeda....
Supporting and supplying the original Saddam regime....
Supporting the terrorist state of Israel...
Supporting various middle eastern dictatorships and quasi-dictatorships...
Damn - without the US we'd be in a real 'world of hurt'. LOL
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One word: Democracy.CameronPoe wrote:
Yeah. How exactly?rawls2 wrote:
Earth would be a world of hurt if America didn't do what it does.
What exactly does it do?
Corporate exploitation of Latin America: world of hurt for the vast majority of people there who are empoverished as a result.
'Liberation' of Iraq: Iraqis pushed from one world of hurt to another even greater one.
Embargo on Cuba: Those darn Cubans - such a threat to the rest of the world....
Numerous CIA-sponsored Latin America country demolitions...
Training the original Al Qaeda....
Supporting and supplying the original Saddam regime....
Supporting the terrorist state of Israel...
Supporting various middle eastern dictatorships and quasi-dictatorships...
Damn - without the US we'd be in a real 'world of hurt'. LOL
Nice 'argument'. WTF?rawls2 wrote:
One word: Democracy.CameronPoe wrote:
Yeah. How exactly?rawls2 wrote:
Earth would be a world of hurt if America didn't do what it does.
What exactly does it do?
Corporate exploitation of Latin America: world of hurt for the vast majority of people there who are empoverished as a result.
'Liberation' of Iraq: Iraqis pushed from one world of hurt to another even greater one.
Embargo on Cuba: Those darn Cubans - such a threat to the rest of the world....
Numerous CIA-sponsored Latin America country demolitions...
Training the original Al Qaeda....
Supporting and supplying the original Saddam regime....
Supporting the terrorist state of Israel...
Supporting various middle eastern dictatorships and quasi-dictatorships...
Damn - without the US we'd be in a real 'world of hurt'. LOL
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Democracy was spawned in Greece.rawls2 wrote:
One word: Democracy.CameronPoe wrote:
Yeah. How exactly?rawls2 wrote:
Earth would be a world of hurt if America didn't do what it does.
What exactly does it do?
Corporate exploitation of Latin America: world of hurt for the vast majority of people there who are empoverished as a result.
'Liberation' of Iraq: Iraqis pushed from one world of hurt to another even greater one.
Embargo on Cuba: Those darn Cubans - such a threat to the rest of the world....
Numerous CIA-sponsored Latin America country demolitions...
Training the original Al Qaeda....
Supporting and supplying the original Saddam regime....
Supporting the terrorist state of Israel...
Supporting various middle eastern dictatorships and quasi-dictatorships...
Damn - without the US we'd be in a real 'world of hurt'. LOL
For those of you who prefer cliffs notes.CameronPoe wrote:
America Sucks