WiBu
Member
+14|7089
1. The weapon handling plainly sucks and feels as though it was intended for a console game. Did DICE actually playtest this?

2. They killed off podding when not near a titan, one of the unique things about the infrantry movement in this game was being able to pod jump from place to place, it actually made it feel like futuristic combat and you were never far from action when you could pod across a good portion of emptyness. Action was fast in the first beta.

3. They nerfed almost everything. They nerfed most ground vehicles (I love the car thing though). They nerfed infrantry combat (read 1). They nerfed infrantry movement. The nerfed the air vehicles. The nerfed me.

And above all else it just doesn't feel right. I've ploughed quite a few hours in to the beta/demo and it just doesn't feel/play like a good game. BF2142 just didn't turn out the way I hoped it would after the feedback people gave from the beta. I even pre-oredered it via the EA downloader a few weeks ago, I was so sure I would like it. Oh well.

Last edited by WiBu (2006-10-08 02:54:16)

..teddy..jimmy
Member
+1,393|7082
im sorry but the whole '2142 sucks' thing is old.
WiBu
Member
+14|7089

..teddy..jimmy wrote:

im sorry but the whole '2142 sucks' thing is old.
The truth is old? Oh sorry, I guess I better voice how I love the game so much then, just to please you.
..teddy..jimmy
Member
+1,393|7082

WiBu wrote:

..teddy..jimmy wrote:

im sorry but the whole '2142 sucks' thing is old.
The truth is old? Oh sorry, I guess I better voice how I love the game so much then, just to please you.
or......you could refrain from posting this an add to the millions of other threads on the same topic

Par example, http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?id=47592

Last edited by ..teddy..jimmy (2006-10-08 03:07:23)

N.A.T.O
The People’s Champion
+59|6872|A drop house

WiBu wrote:

..teddy..jimmy wrote:

im sorry but the whole '2142 sucks' thing is old.
The truth is old?
Yes the truth is old.  But people still complain about BF2 so i guess complain away.
spawnofthemist
Banned
+1,128|7074|Burmecia, Land of the Rain
just out of spite of teddy.jimmy. i'll post in this one.

your best point is point 2.
action WAS fast paced and fun in the first beta.


they did nerf things. true. and it sucks. but it's because of people who whine. blame the beta testers. they whined, stuff got nerfed. they should have just left it to the clans and not opened the floodgates to the nubs. that way we'd have a competitively fun game coming out instead of this nubfest.
..teddy..jimmy
Member
+1,393|7082

spawnofthemist wrote:

just out of spite of teddy.jimmy. i'll post in this one.

your best point is point 2.
action WAS fast paced and fun in the first beta.


they did nerf things. true. and it sucks. but it's because of people who whine. blame the beta testers. they whined, stuff got nerfed. they should have just left it to the clans and not opened the floodgates to the nubs. that way we'd have a competitively fun game coming out instead of this nubfest.
u spelt my name wrong..Mod:  Get over it ... inflammatory comment removed
Zukabazuka
Member
+23|7118
Clan people? They whine a LOT if something changes in the game. Then how do they know if they are good? and not just doing bunnyjump through the entire map? It was beta ok they hadn't fixed the game fully and they let you test a half buggy game so expect some frikings changes.
Rogue_granny
Member
+22|6998
To tell you the truth im not that happy with it at the momment as well but i can see the game getting better once the full version comes out and you are able ot get unlocks and more maps, so im willing to give it a chance, true it no BF2 but i think they would have been hard pressed to top that even with it faults.
NaziPredator
Member
+41|6897|Luton -WorstTownInBritain-
worst thing is you cant bunnyhop lol
spawnofthemist
Banned
+1,128|7074|Burmecia, Land of the Rain

THE RUSKIE wrote:

True Im Also Fukin Disappointed( Even Though I Never Played The Fukin Beta) The Demo Sucks So Bad, Every Noob That Made The Gameplay Change From The Beta Should Be Gassed Or Shot In The Head By A Firing Squad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
caps lock is NOT your friend.

take your meds, then come back and post.
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,072|7204|PNW

The 2142 demo makes me feel like I was beta-testing it every hour I played BF2. At the same time, it isn't much of an improvement. I feel somewhat ripped off.
straz_mataz
Banned
+86|6967|Edmonton Alberta
yeah infantry is kinda shitty weapons need to be a little bit more accurate in medium/long distance
i just cant wait to get some of the unlocks they will make the game a hell of alot better
the game isnt quite as fun as bf2 but its defferent.... and i was in need of a change bf2 is starting to get a little boring

i am starting to become a huge Type 32 Nekomata whore one of these + a clanmate in the turret +another clanmate in an apc = complete unstopable ownage or atleast it will be when we all get the engy unlocks that lets you repair vehicles that are beside you when you are in a vehicle

plus i really like the squad based netbat system its nice because if your in a squad with a bunch of nubs that dont spot things out you can still see enemies that you squadmates have had a good look at
Zukabazuka
Member
+23|7118
How do you feel ripped off if you just played the BETA and the demo? they didn't really made you pay for it.
MR_snus
Member
+21|7054
the demo sucks bigtime...
Simon
basically
+838|7090|UK
2142 = teh sucks
Zefar
Member
+116|7082|Sweden
BF2142 Demo = FTW!!! Seriously I'm gonna play that game much more than BF2 at least. :3
MuseSeeker
2142 Soldier: Behenaut
+110|7208|EUR
1. The weapon handling plainly sucks

Wrong you have to learn how to fire it, dont just get into the game and expect to headshot everyone you see. Took me an hour to learn how to use the weapon

2. They killed off podding when not near a titan, one of the unique things about the infrantry movement in this game was being able to pod jump from place to place, it actually made it feel like futuristic combat and you were never far from action when you could pod across a good portion of emptyness. Action was fast in the first beta.

Pacing is fine for me

3. They nerfed almost everything. They nerfed most ground vehicles (I love the car thing though). They nerfed infrantry combat (read 1). They nerfed infrantry movement. The nerfed the air vehicles. The nerfed me.

Its more balanced if you ask me: Infantry combat is the same as BF2 if not maybe better.

Seems like you are not getting it just because they nerfed your playstyle. Fair enough I suppose but maybe you can try and adapt.

(Your fault for pre-ordering a game before even playing the demo)

Last edited by MuseSeeker (2006-10-08 06:14:59)

WiBu
Member
+14|7089

MuseSeeker wrote:

Wrong you have to learn how to fire it, dont just get into the game and expect to headshot everyone you see. Took me an hour to learn how to use the weapon
Well, I've played the demo for a round 5-6 hours, I did give it a chance to grow on me, but it just didn't. The weapon handling feels like it has been made for consoles. Also, have you tried sniping. It's next to impossible.

MuseSeeker wrote:

(Your fault for pre-ordering a game before even playing the demo)
True but oh well.
MR_snus
Member
+21|7054
The weapon handling feels like it has been made for consoles. Also, have you tried sniping. It's next to impossible.


word!! whats up with sniping??
MuseSeeker
2142 Soldier: Behenaut
+110|7208|EUR
Sorry you cant get used to it, but I strongly disagree my hits with a sniper is around 80%; you have to use the sway with you, let it aim for you in a way.

Dont lose hope: there could be patches.

Last edited by MuseSeeker (2006-10-08 06:27:22)

jord
Member
+2,382|7111|The North, beyond the wall.
In this case the truth is old,and getting boring.

If you don't like a game,you really don't need to constantly moan about it,nobody cares,you have managed to stop a total of 0 people from getting it.

This wasn't aimed at just Wibu as this is the first time i've seen a 2142 moan post from him.But aimed at all moaners.

Last edited by jord (2006-10-08 06:28:48)

WiBu
Member
+14|7089

MuseSeeker wrote:

Sorry you cant get used to it, but I strongly disagree my hits with a sniper is around 80%;
I find it hard to believe you have that sort of accuracy if you have a 42% accuracy with BF2 sniper rifles which are a lot more easy to handle, you only have to contend with bullet drop/distance in BF2.

And about the weapons in general, no soldier would seriously bob (... up down up down up down ...) about their aim like that when scoped, if anything it should be bobbing up and down unscoped. I think I remember in the beta forums a DICE representative stated a few things they are/will be changing to gameplay and weapon bob was one of them.  I think they did but all the seemed to do was change the distance of the bob, not the speed. Now it just travels a shorter distance faster, hardly ideal. I also think they said something about reducing the bob effect when crouched, proned... I don't notice any difference at all.

MuseSeeker wrote:

Dont lose hope: there could be patches.
Indeed but I don't hold much hope for those even though DICE Canada is kaput.

Last edited by WiBu (2006-10-08 06:38:34)

MuseSeeker
2142 Soldier: Behenaut
+110|7208|EUR
I find it hard to believe you have that sort of accuracy if you have a 42% accuracy with BF2 sniper rifles which are a lot more easy to handle, you only have to contend with bullet drop/distance in BF2.

Well thats your problem if you dont want to believe me. Ill give you some reasons why my accuracy is high:

1. I lag less in BF2142, and find it easier to make side shots.
2. A lot of good sniper places on SIDI'.
3. I find sniper rifles more accurate, despite sway. Its very easy to counter balance it with your mouse movements.
4. I just find the recon class easier then the sniper class.
5. My 42% accuracy is because half of my playtime I was a noob before I learnt, or maybe I just suck in the accuracy department in BF2.

Hopefully that should back me up

And about the weapons in general, no soldier would seriously bob (... up down up down up down ...) about their aim like that when scoped, if anything it should be bobbing up and down unscoped.

Weapon bob is annoying if you ask me, also it adds realism but they have added to much (as usual). I would agree with you that it to be lessened a bit.

There is an option to switch off fullscreen bob when moving, if that interests you in the options.
burton
Member
+9|6852|Da Bay, California

MR_snus wrote:

The weapon handling feels like it has been made for consoles. Also, have you tried sniping. It's next to impossible.


word!! whats up with sniping??
sniping is easy....it only moves up and down, just make sure the crosshairs are on his body and u have a hit. Headshots on the other hand are a little more difficult expecially on moving people. I aim for the body while clicking because the reload on the rifle allows you to stay scoped in. Its a very quick kill if u know how to use the kit.

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