Poll

Should the Armed Forces of any country admit gay people?

Yes56%56% - 147
Only Lesbians14%14% - 37
Only Gay Men0%0% - 2
No27%27% - 72
Total: 258
PHPR Hunter
Member
+4|6781
There are those that have a belief that homosexuality is not natural.  That does not make them homophobes.  I don't see that belief as a fear of homosexuals.  Personally, if it isn't manufactured it's natural.  I don't subscribe to the theory that this is a learned behavior, but rather is controlled physically (probably genetic).   Last year a very good friend of mine died from AIDS.  We'd known each other since elementary school and he "came out" while we were in college.  This is a population that has a significantly higher rate of this disease.  If I knew there were gays in my unit, and they were seriously wounded, there would be a pause factor to assist.  Not because they're gay, but because of self-preservation.  If we say that it is OK for gays in the military and no one has a right to know who they are, this pause factor could and would extend to everyone in your unit.  I have not been in battle.  Hope I or my family never have to.  But from what friends have said, there isn't time to pause.  If you pause you die.
Ikarti
Banned - for ever.
+231|6953|Wilmington, DE, US

PHPR Hunter wrote:

There are those that have a belief that homosexuality is not natural.  That does not make them homophobes.  I don't see that belief as a fear of homosexuals.  Personally, if it isn't manufactured it's natural.  I don't subscribe to the theory that this is a learned behavior, but rather is controlled physically (probably genetic).   Last year a very good friend of mine died from AIDS.  We'd known each other since elementary school and he "came out" while we were in college.  This is a population that has a significantly higher rate of this disease.  If I knew there were gays in my unit, and they were seriously wounded, there would be a pause factor to assist.  Not because they're gay, but because of self-preservation.  If we say that it is OK for gays in the military and no one has a right to know who they are, this pause factor could and would extend to everyone in your unit.  I have not been in battle.  Hope I or my family never have to.  But from what friends have said, there isn't time to pause.  If you pause you die.
Wouldn't they test for AIDS if you joined the military?
PHPR Hunter
Member
+4|6781
Probably not.  I don't believe you give up all of your privacy rights by joining.  They may test you, but that would only to determine if you are fit at the time of enlistment.  Perhaps someone who is in the military now, can answer this.
Ikarti
Banned - for ever.
+231|6953|Wilmington, DE, US

PHPR Hunter wrote:

Probably not.  I don't believe you give up all of your privacy rights by joining.  They may test you, but that would only to determine if you are fit at the time of enlistment.  Perhaps someone who is in the military now, can answer this.
Ok, let me rephrase. Not test particularly for AIDS but they'd at least screen some bloodwork wouldn't they?
PHPR Hunter
Member
+4|6781
Again, I don't know.  I have not been in the military.  I don't know what type of testing they do or how often they do it.  I'm sure there are physicals of some sort.  Just don't know what is involved or how often.
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7001|Argentina

Ikarti wrote:

PHPR Hunter wrote:

Probably not.  I don't believe you give up all of your privacy rights by joining.  They may test you, but that would only to determine if you are fit at the time of enlistment.  Perhaps someone who is in the military now, can answer this.
Ok, let me rephrase. Not test particularly for AIDS but they'd at least screen some bloodwork wouldn't they?
I think you have to give approval for that.
CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|6799
They should have tests for 'campness' and only admit those that score less than 8.714 'knickers' (the unit of 'campness') on the 'campness' scale.
BN
smells like wee wee
+159|7011

CameronPoe wrote:

They should have tests for 'campness' and only admit those that score less than 8.714 'knickers' (the unit of 'campness') on the 'campness' scale.
campness written test (there will be an oral test later)

Please name the cast of Will and Grace
How many times have you seen the movie "Beaches"
Ian Thorpe- metrosexual or homosexual?
Have you ever worn Manties http://www.manties.net/
Do you watch the Oprah or The View?
Do you work in the womens fragrances section of a department store?
-Gunsmoke-
Member
+165|6879|South Jersey
Only admit them if they know how to camp mains. 

Real opinion: Yes, admit gays into the armed forces.  If they forcefully make new friends(you know what I mean), then kick them out of the army/criminal charges.
Mitch
16 more years
+877|6769|South Florida
Well. The stereotypical fag would probly make a remark something like this "Oh my god you want me to crawl through the mud! I just washed these pants!"
Hahaha

Last edited by Dezerteagal5 (2006-10-07 20:28:53)

15 more years! 15 more years!
[F7F7]KiNG_KaDaFFHi
Why walk when you can dance?
+77|6831|sWEEDen
Well i guess all gay people must be really weak and they all wear pink...doesn´t add up well on the battlefield.

The most gay part of the figthing forces must be the airborne ones....just listen to the gear/names...joystick...cockpit...tailgunner....and soo on

Last edited by [F7F7]KiNG_KaDaFFHi (2006-10-08 01:13:36)

Ikarti
Banned - for ever.
+231|6953|Wilmington, DE, US

Dezerteagal5 wrote:

Well. The stereotypical fag would probly make a remark something like this "Oh my god you want me to crawl through the mud! I just washed these pants!"
Hahaha
That's the worst gay joke I've heard. 0 out of 5 stars.
Rosse_modest
Member
+76|7019|Antwerp, Flanders
There was an article in the newspapers here a couple of weeks ago on the topic. Apparently a paracommando (elite airborne infantry - toughest training and requirements in our military) outed himself as gay by marrying his male partner. His superiors applaud his initiative because it takes guts to out yourself as gay in the most macho chauvinistic military environment imaginable, but his colleagues said they'd never accept him anymore because homosexuality is unnatural (a very stupid thing to say, since homosexuality is perfectly natural) and because it besmirches the image of "manliness" that the paracommandos have. Also a very stupid thing to say since he passed the same physical and psychological stress ordeals as they had to face to become a paracommando in the first place AND they didn't seem to question his manliness before they found out he wasn't into women. So the problem here is not whether his sexual nature impairs his abilities, but rather his fellow soldiers' attitudes.

If someone's qualified for the job then he's qualified for the job. There's really nothing more to it.
MURcarnage
CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL!
+86|6901|San Francisco, CA
I say why not? A person is a person right? If they can keep their mind focused on what they're supposed to be doing when they're supposed to be doing it, aren't they doing their job? Just because a guy likes the color pink, does that make him gay automatically?
GunSlinger OIF II
Banned.
+1,860|6887

Ikarti wrote:

PHPR Hunter wrote:

There are those that have a belief that homosexuality is not natural.  That does not make them homophobes.  I don't see that belief as a fear of homosexuals.  Personally, if it isn't manufactured it's natural.  I don't subscribe to the theory that this is a learned behavior, but rather is controlled physically (probably genetic).   Last year a very good friend of mine died from AIDS.  We'd known each other since elementary school and he "came out" while we were in college.  This is a population that has a significantly higher rate of this disease.  If I knew there were gays in my unit, and they were seriously wounded, there would be a pause factor to assist.  Not because they're gay, but because of self-preservation.  If we say that it is OK for gays in the military and no one has a right to know who they are, this pause factor could and would extend to everyone in your unit.  I have not been in battle.  Hope I or my family never have to.  But from what friends have said, there isn't time to pause.  If you pause you die.
Wouldn't they test for AIDS if you joined the military?
every 12 months
I2elik
Member
+12|6996|Perth, Western Australia
A bullet is a bullet when fired, no matter what race, sex, orientation or religion, it's still a solid slug of metal fired at you or the enemy with the intention to incapicitate or kill said person. Nothing more.
GunSlinger OIF II
Banned.
+1,860|6887
I dont got a problem with butt pirates being in the military.  I dont gotta problem with them even being in my same unit.  keep that shit to yourself and lets go get haji...
DocZ
Member
+13|6931|Belgium
sure, why not?   But gay people are usually too "rainbow" and peaceful to make it into the army....
IRONCHEF
Member
+385|6734|Northern California

DocZ wrote:

sure, why not?   But gay people are usually too "rainbow" and peaceful to make it into the army....
No, they're scared they'll get raped by angry "hetero" privates in their company if they're discovered.
TheMajorBummer
Have a nice day!
+-4|7069|Netherlands

Agent_Dung_Bomb wrote:

Longbow wrote:

Agent_Dung_Bomb wrote:

So Longbow, how does it feel to get fucked regularly, because you are one major asshole.
Ask yourself , I'm not the one who is fucked into asshole regularly .
Ohhh, wow, great come back!  We did we strike a nerve with your latent homosexual feelings? 
Agent_Dung_Comb
commissargizz
Member
+123|6707| Heaven
The one thing i would like to say about non gays is that do they enjoy anal sex with their girlfriends? if they do wants the difference? all arse holes are the same?
For all Americans we say ARSE in the UK and not ASS. ass is a donkey.



By the way I'm not gay. and i don't do anal.
BN
smells like wee wee
+159|7011

commissargizz wrote:

The one thing i would like to say about non gays is that do they enjoy anal sex with their girlfriends? if they do wants the difference?
How old are you?

FFS get a dictionary. Look up hetrosexual & homosexual. That will tell you the difference.

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