I seriously doubt that We are resiving aid from that charity here in the USA.CITYHUNT3R wrote:
The website specified that all those children die worldwide. Meaning in the United States as well.N.A.T.O wrote:
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I suppose it's not America's job to deal with poverty in the US either, then.
No-one said that you were.N.A.T.O wrote:
I seriously doubt that We are resiving aid from that charity here in the USA.CITYHUNT3R wrote:
The website specified that all those children die worldwide. Meaning in the United States as well.N.A.T.O wrote:
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Question for all the people here supporting war and giving away money from your taxes in every country not only America. Would you prefer the government to spend your money in helping your own people or spending it in wars and support for other countries?
And these links are for American citizens to see if people are doing well there and how many poor children do you have there.
And these links are for American citizens to see if people are doing well there and how many poor children do you have there.
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When I see money wasted on trees planted on islands in the middle of the road, people having babies just to get more government cash, and palaces built for city councils...sergeriver wrote:
When you see the money wasted in weapons and given to countries like Israel (it's only an example) to support more war and death, don't you think that is immoral doing so when millions of children are dying every year because of hunger and poverty?
Spending is a big problem in this government, on every single level; not just the executive branch.
stryyker wrote:
I answer your question with another: What does Argentina do for Humanitarian Aid across the globe?
I don't regard that as a personal bash. In fact, it is a decent point.sergeriver wrote:
But, you didn't answer the original and first question, you only bashed me because you thought it was a straight attack on US, and it's not, I think every rich country and I include Argentina, we have a lot of food here believe me, should help the world's poor countries.stryyker wrote:
i know, it was a question to prove a point.
In most every country in the world, Humanitarian Aide is very low on the "to-do" list.
And at the same time people want the US to leave everyone alone, they all have their hands outstretched for our taxpayers' cash. It's like some bum sitting on the corner with a sign that reads "ned monny 4 fud. stay of my sidwalk." Can't have it both ways. Either tell the US to go back to 'isolationism,' or encourage its 'imperialism.'
But to answer the question about Argentina itself, it isn't completely guilty.
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Please excuse did not read you post right.CITYHUNT3R wrote:
No-one said that you were.N.A.T.O wrote:
I seriously doubt that We are resiving aid from that charity here in the USA.CITYHUNT3R wrote:
The website specified that all those children die worldwide. Meaning in the United States as well.
I want my tax dollars to go to all 3 actually. Money for us, money for our soldiers to do their job to keep us and our allies safe, and money to help other countries that we are able to assist. I don't think it has to be an either/or situation here.sergeriver wrote:
Would you prefer the government to spend your money in helping your own people or spending it in wars and support for other countries?
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i don't see aid as trowing away money, i see it as an investment because we might need their help one day.
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That help is shit, Argentina is a rich country and has a lot more to give, as US and the EU countries as well. How much did the Iraq war cost, how many died because of that war and how many children would be still alive if the money would have been used to help these children?unnamednewbie13 wrote:
When I see money wasted on trees planted on islands in the middle of the road, people having babies just to get more government cash, and palaces built for city councils...sergeriver wrote:
When you see the money wasted in weapons and given to countries like Israel (it's only an example) to support more war and death, don't you think that is immoral doing so when millions of children are dying every year because of hunger and poverty?
Spending is a big problem in this government, on every single level; not just the executive branch.stryyker wrote:
I answer your question with another: What does Argentina do for Humanitarian Aid across the globe?I don't regard that as a personal bash. In fact, it is a decent point.sergeriver wrote:
But, you didn't answer the original and first question, you only bashed me because you thought it was a straight attack on US, and it's not, I think every rich country and I include Argentina, we have a lot of food here believe me, should help the world's poor countries.stryyker wrote:
i know, it was a question to prove a point.
In most every country in the world, Humanitarian Aide is very low on the "to-do" list.
And at the same time people want the US to leave everyone alone, they all have their hands outstretched for our taxpayers' cash. It's like some bum sitting on the corner with a sign that reads "ned monny 4 fud. stay of my sidwalk." Can't have it both ways. Either tell the US to go back to 'isolationism,' or encourage its 'imperialism.'
But to answer the question about Argentina itself, it isn't completely guilty.
Yes it has because there is no money for all those issues. How can US have a huge deficit, 28 million children living in low incomes families and still wasting money in Iraq?Stingray24 wrote:
I want my tax dollars to go to all 3 actually. Money for us, money for our soldiers to do their job to keep us and our allies safe, and money to help other countries that we are able to assist. I don't think it has to be an either/or situation here.sergeriver wrote:
Would you prefer the government to spend your money in helping your own people or spending it in wars and support for other countries?
How can there be mass death in Africa and some people live in palaces over there?sergeriver wrote:
Yes it has because there is no money for all those issues. How can US have a huge deficit, 28 million children living in low incomes families and still wasting money in Iraq?Stingray24 wrote:
I want my tax dollars to go to all 3 actually. Money for us, money for our soldiers to do their job to keep us and our allies safe, and money to help other countries that we are able to assist. I don't think it has to be an either/or situation here.sergeriver wrote:
Would you prefer the government to spend your money in helping your own people or spending it in wars and support for other countries?
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Exactly. Which is one of the reasons I'm a bit irritated that the US receives the brunt of the blame in these regards.sergeriver wrote:
That help is shit, Argentina is a rich country and has a lot more to give, as US and the EU countries as well. How much did the Iraq war cost, how many died because of that war and how many children would be still alive if the money would have been used to help these children?unnamednewbie13 wrote:
But to answer the question about Argentina itself, it isn't completely guilty.
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Deficit? Politicians doing their usual things. 28 million low income families? How do you define low income? Under what yearly salary? We have a lot of low income families because parents won't get off their butts and better themselves.sergeriver wrote:
Yes it has because there is no money for all those issues. How can US have a huge deficit, 28 million children living in low incomes families and still wasting money in Iraq?Stingray24 wrote:
I want my tax dollars to go to all 3 actually. Money for us, money for our soldiers to do their job to keep us and our allies safe, and money to help other countries that we are able to assist. I don't think it has to be an either/or situation here.sergeriver wrote:
Would you prefer the government to spend your money in helping your own people or spending it in wars and support for other countries?
But I'm not blaming only US, I blame all the rich countries, specially those who throw money away in wars.unnamednewbie13 wrote:
Exactly. Which is one of the reasons I'm a bit irritated that the US receives the brunt of the blame in these regards.sergeriver wrote:
That help is shit, Argentina is a rich country and has a lot more to give, as US and the EU countries as well. How much did the Iraq war cost, how many died because of that war and how many children would be still alive if the money would have been used to help these children?unnamednewbie13 wrote:
But to answer the question about Argentina itself, it isn't completely guilty.
I know you aren't specifically, but alot of people do.sergeriver wrote:
But I'm not blaming only US, I blame all the rich countries, specially those who throw money away in wars.unnamednewbie13 wrote:
Exactly. Which is one of the reasons I'm a bit irritated that the US receives the brunt of the blame in these regards.sergeriver wrote:
That help is shit, Argentina is a rich country and has a lot more to give, as US and the EU countries as well. How much did the Iraq war cost, how many died because of that war and how many children would be still alive if the money would have been used to help these children?
US government spending runs deep. Its trademark "shock-and-awe" campaign extends to the interior, with ginormous sculpted-glass city police departments and bronze faceless-human-automoton statues (that look like communist remnants from beyond the Iron Curtain) in front of giant brown art globes, in the middle of high-maintenance gardens. Turn lanes are dug out from the center of the roads and replaced with islands filled with trees poorly-chosen, due to their notorious habit of spreading roots wide, not deep (and thus ruining pavement over time). Government officials struggle to spend all of their alotted funds for the year so their budget doesn't get cut the next...where does all this end?sergeriver wrote:
Yes it has because there is no money for all those issues. How can US have a huge deficit, 28 million children living in low incomes families and still wasting money in Iraq?Stingray24 wrote:
I want my tax dollars to go to all 3 actually. Money for us, money for our soldiers to do their job to keep us and our allies safe, and money to help other countries that we are able to assist. I don't think it has to be an either/or situation here.sergeriver wrote:
Would you prefer the government to spend your money in helping your own people or spending it in wars and support for other countries?
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Read this.Stingray24 wrote:
Deficit? Politicians doing their usual things. 28 million low income families? How do you define low income? Under what yearly salary? We have a lot of low income families because parents won't get off their butts and better themselves.sergeriver wrote:
Yes it has because there is no money for all those issues. How can US have a huge deficit, 28 million children living in low incomes families and still wasting money in Iraq?Stingray24 wrote:
I want my tax dollars to go to all 3 actually. Money for us, money for our soldiers to do their job to keep us and our allies safe, and money to help other countries that we are able to assist. I don't think it has to be an either/or situation here.
I said that those children die worldwide. They don't have to have received aid from that charity to have died.N.A.T.O wrote:
Please excuse did not read you post right.CITYHUNT3R wrote:
No-one said that you were.N.A.T.O wrote:
I seriously doubt that We are resiving aid from that charity here in the USA.
Was the US throwing money away when we gave supplies to the British during the early days of WWII?sergeriver wrote:
I blame all the rich countries, specially those who throw money away in wars.
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Oh, sorry is there a WW now? Forgive me I didn't see Fox today.usmarine2005 wrote:
Was the US throwing money away when we gave supplies to the British during the early days of WWII?sergeriver wrote:
I blame all the rich countries, specially those who throw money away in wars.
Oh fucking forget it, I am done talking to you.sergeriver wrote:
Oh, sorry is there a WW now? Forgive me I didn't see Fox today.usmarine2005 wrote:
Was the US throwing money away when we gave supplies to the British during the early days of WWII?sergeriver wrote:
I blame all the rich countries, specially those who throw money away in wars.
Whatever.usmarine2005 wrote:
Oh fucking forget it, I am done talking to you.sergeriver wrote:
Oh, sorry is there a WW now? Forgive me I didn't see Fox today.usmarine2005 wrote:
Was the US throwing money away when we gave supplies to the British during the early days of WWII?
They actually sold oil to Germany as well. So yes, they were throwing money away.usmarine2005 wrote:
Was the US throwing money away when we gave supplies to the British during the early days of WWII?sergeriver wrote:
I blame all the rich countries, specially those who throw money away in wars.
Explain that some more please.CITYHUNT3R wrote:
They actually sold oil to Germany as well. So yes, they were throwing money away.usmarine2005 wrote:
Was the US throwing money away when we gave supplies to the British during the early days of WWII?sergeriver wrote:
I blame all the rich countries, specially those who throw money away in wars.
The income levels there are not near poverty, so I dispute your 28 million number. You treat it like they're sitting in the street living in a cardboard box. They can still put food on the table and keep a roof over their head. Low income yes, not poverty stricken. What do you suggest the government to do? Mandate the minimum wage at $15/ hour??sergeriver wrote:
Read this.Stingray24 wrote:
Deficit? Politicians doing their usual things. 28 million low income families? How do you define low income? Under what yearly salary? We have a lot of low income families because parents won't get off their butts and better themselves.sergeriver wrote:
Yes it has because there is no money for all those issues. How can US have a huge deficit, 28 million children living in low incomes families and still wasting money in Iraq?
I can't find a source at all, but I know I heard it somewhere. Either way, I'll take that statement back. My bad.usmarine2005 wrote:
Explain that some more please.CITYHUNT3R wrote:
They actually sold oil to Germany as well. So yes, they were throwing money away.usmarine2005 wrote:
Was the US throwing money away when we gave supplies to the British during the early days of WWII?
Ok, let's talk about the 12,8 million children that live in poverty in the US. Is it right? Use the same source if you wish. This ain't a joke.Stingray24 wrote:
The income levels there are not near poverty, so I dispute your 28 million number. You treat it like they're sitting in the street living in a cardboard box. They can still put food on the table and keep a roof over their head. Low income yes, not poverty stricken. What do you suggest the government to do? Mandate the minimum wage at $15/ hour??sergeriver wrote:
Read this.Stingray24 wrote:
Deficit? Politicians doing their usual things. 28 million low income families? How do you define low income? Under what yearly salary? We have a lot of low income families because parents won't get off their butts and better themselves.