sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7009|Argentina

AlbertWesker[RE] wrote:

lowing wrote:

How about this....How about the Arab nations surrounding Israel sign a treaty with Israel promising no attacks or terrorism by them, and also would go after anyone that committed such acts. Let the Arab nations do this and THEN we will see what happens.
BAm QFT exactly right there, discussion OVER
When Hezbollah (not a nation) wanted to negotiate Israel fuck them away.
starman7
Member
+15|6976
Yes, the Arab countries have sometimes offered a general peace, BUT
A, the terms were unacceptable to Israel
B, they statements were hollow due to terrorist attacks
C, they were unclear and did not really do anything towards a lasting peace.
D, Israel may have been in the wrong (yes, I finally admit that Israel may not be a flippin angel of flippin peace every last time).
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7009|Argentina

starman7 wrote:

Yes, the Arab countries have sometimes offered a general peace, BUT
A, the terms were unacceptable to Israel
B, they statements were hollow due to terrorist attacks
C, they were unclear and did not really do anything towards a lasting peace.
D, Israel may have been in the wrong (yes, I finally admit that Israel may not be a flippin angel of flippin peace every last time).
As I said they are all the same.  Period.
AlbertWesker[RE]
Not Human Anymore
+144|6896|Seattle, WA

sergeriver wrote:

AlbertWesker[RE] wrote:

lowing wrote:

How about this....How about the Arab nations surrounding Israel sign a treaty with Israel promising no attacks or terrorism by them, and also would go after anyone that committed such acts. Let the Arab nations do this and THEN we will see what happens.
BAm QFT exactly right there, discussion OVER
When Hezbollah (not a nation) wanted to negotiate Israel fuck them away.
Oh so firing rockets is another word for negotiate.......yah ok.
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7009|Argentina

AlbertWesker[RE] wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

AlbertWesker[RE] wrote:


BAm QFT exactly right there, discussion OVER
When Hezbollah (not a nation) wanted to negotiate Israel fuck them away.
Oh so firing rockets is another word for negotiate.......yah ok.
No, killing more than 1000 people after two POW's is.
AlbertWesker[RE]
Not Human Anymore
+144|6896|Seattle, WA

sergeriver wrote:

AlbertWesker[RE] wrote:

sergeriver wrote:


When Hezbollah (not a nation) wanted to negotiate Israel fuck them away.
Oh so firing rockets is another word for negotiate.......yah ok.
No, killing more than 1000 people after two POW's is.
Yep, only those 2 POW's died....nothing happened in the past to cause this.  Not at all.
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7009|Argentina

AlbertWesker[RE] wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

AlbertWesker[RE] wrote:


Oh so firing rockets is another word for negotiate.......yah ok.
No, killing more than 1000 people after two POW's is.
Yep, only those 2 POW's died....nothing happened in the past to cause this.  Not at all.
Look man, after all this mess Hezbollah wanted to negotiate and Israel said fuck off.  How is Israel in position to refuse a negotiation when its existence depends on doing this?
[UTQ]_Ausch88
Banned
+23|6747
ISRAEL is the main reason why the USA are hated everywhere in the middle east

the traitors in the USA don't care about that, they only care for the safety of ISRAEL

Perle, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, half of the senate

all sold to the jwish cause

sending american money to ISRAEL insted of spending it on the americans.. the ones who are starving or who need medial care

people who support that like lowing and the others in this thread are traitors to AMERICA

the best way to solve all this is to cut ALL foreign aid to middle eastern countries including ISRAEL

Let them fight their religious war alone..

don't you agree lowing?  don't you think that the american money should be spent on the american people?

and don't tell me that supporting ISRAEL is like defending AMERICA..
jonsimon
Member
+224|6747
The frank truth is Israel is as unjustifiably violent to its neighbors as you think its neighbors may be towards it.

No peace can be negotiated because Israel will accept nothing short of unconditional surrender. And Israel can broker no peace because it will propose nothing but such.
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7009|Argentina

[UTQ]_Ausch88 wrote:

ISRAEL is the main reason why the USA are hated everywhere in the middle east

the traitors in the USA don't care about that, they only care for the safety of ISRAEL

Perle, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, half of the senate

all sold to the jwish cause

sending american money to ISRAEL insted of spending it on the americans.. the ones who are starving or who need medial care

people who support that like lowing and the others in this thread are traitors to AMERICA

the best way to solve all this is to cut ALL foreign aid to middle eastern countries including ISRAEL

Let them fight their religious war alone..

don't you agree lowing?  don't you think that the american money should be spent on the american people?

and don't tell me that supporting ISRAEL is like defending AMERICA..
You are almost right, but you should try saying zionist cause instead of jewish cause and not using the word traitors, it sounds so 50's.
Budo7
Member
+2|7024
Arabs are more eager to solve this problem then Israel. Over the years the Arabs have called for peace talks.
Land for Peace , and you wouldn't find any one who doesn't agree with that. Unless you are referring to some fanatics which exists on both sides. And they are the minority and the loudest voices.
And with the Iranian president threat are useless. If i had a penny for each time a extremist was threatening somebody. I would been rich right now.
It's funny the Arabs are doing the threatening and Israel is delivering.

I am trashing Israel for the killing and the collective punishment it does. You can't not condemn 1.3 mill people to starvation just because some of them are terrorist. These methods are the ones which are creating the terrorist.
This is insane, why should Israel give up land? Do you think for one moment the USA we give any land to Canada or Mexico for peace? No way. Would the U.K. ? No way, only country that I can think of who might would be France. Which then they would cry and the USA, and UK would bail them out again.
bogo24dk
Member
+26|6758

starman7 wrote:

Yes, the Arab countries have sometimes offered a general peace, BUT
A, the terms were unacceptable to Israel
B, they statements were hollow due to terrorist attacks
C, they were unclear and did not really do anything towards a lasting peace.
D, Israel may have been in the wrong (yes, I finally admit that Israel may not be a flippin angel of flippin peace every last time).
A. Giving back 22% is unacceptable ?
B. Terror attacks ??? How many civilians have been killed by the Israelis ?
What is terror ? Is it when you only kill a Israeli terror or when killing of innocent Arabs terror to ?
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7009|Argentina

jonsimon wrote:

The frank truth is Israel is as unjustifiably violent to its neighbors as you think its neighbors may be towards it.

No peace can be negotiated because Israel will accept nothing short of unconditional surrender. And Israel can broker no peace because it will propose nothing but such.
Cut Israel funds and then let's see how well they do without money and no negotiations.
bogo24dk
Member
+26|6758

Budo7 wrote:

Arabs are more eager to solve this problem then Israel. Over the years the Arabs have called for peace talks.
Land for Peace , and you wouldn't find any one who doesn't agree with that. Unless you are referring to some fanatics which exists on both sides. And they are the minority and the loudest voices.
And with the Iranian president threat are useless. If i had a penny for each time a extremist was threatening somebody. I would been rich right now.
It's funny the Arabs are doing the threatening and Israel is delivering.

I am trashing Israel for the killing and the collective punishment it does. You can't not condemn 1.3 mill people to starvation just because some of them are terrorist. These methods are the ones which are creating the terrorist.
This is insane, why should Israel give up land? Do you think for one moment the USA we give any land to Canada or Mexico for peace? No way. Would the U.K. ? No way, only country that I can think of who might would be France. Which then they would cry and the USA, and UK would bail them out again.
Simple statement: Before 1948 there was no Israel. The land was inhabited by Palestinians. In fact going back in history in 1850 cause this is when the Jews started immigrating to Palestine. The population of Jews where under 5 %. Unless of course you think couping other countries is something that is morally right.

Last edited by bogo24dk (2006-09-30 06:40:39)

[UTQ]_Ausch88
Banned
+23|6747

sergeriver wrote:

[UTQ]_Ausch88 wrote:

ISRAEL is the main reason why the USA are hated everywhere in the middle east

the traitors in the USA don't care about that, they only care for the safety of ISRAEL

Perle, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, half of the senate

all sold to the jwish cause

sending american money to ISRAEL insted of spending it on the americans.. the ones who are starving or who need medial care

people who support that like lowing and the others in this thread are traitors to AMERICA

the best way to solve all this is to cut ALL foreign aid to middle eastern countries including ISRAEL

Let them fight their religious war alone..

don't you agree lowing?  don't you think that the american money should be spent on the american people?

and don't tell me that supporting ISRAEL is like defending AMERICA..
You are almost right, but you should try saying zionist cause instead of jewish cause and not using the word traitors, it sounds so 50's.
yep you are right.. but its hard sometimes to make the difference.. ya know when people lile lowing can't make the difference between an arab and a terrorist, its hard for me to make the difference between a zio and a jw.

and someone who put the interest of another "country" before his own country is a traitor to me.. even in 2006
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7009|Argentina

[UTQ]_Ausch88 wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

[UTQ]_Ausch88 wrote:

ISRAEL is the main reason why the USA are hated everywhere in the middle east

the traitors in the USA don't care about that, they only care for the safety of ISRAEL

Perle, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, half of the senate

all sold to the jwish cause

sending american money to ISRAEL insted of spending it on the americans.. the ones who are starving or who need medial care

people who support that like lowing and the others in this thread are traitors to AMERICA

the best way to solve all this is to cut ALL foreign aid to middle eastern countries including ISRAEL

Let them fight their religious war alone..

don't you agree lowing?  don't you think that the american money should be spent on the american people?

and don't tell me that supporting ISRAEL is like defending AMERICA..
You are almost right, but you should try saying zionist cause instead of jewish cause and not using the word traitors, it sounds so 50's.
yep you are right.. but its hard sometimes to make the difference.. ya know when people lile lowing can't make the difference between an arab and a terrorist, its hard for me to make the difference between a zio and a jw.

and someone who put the interest of another "country" before his own country is a traitor to me.. even in 2006
Some people think foreign issues come first before domestic ones.  It's the same people who say "hey, be responsible and get a damn job, and you are on your own coz we can't afford to pay for you" and then say "let's give Israel money, coz they can't do it without our help".  Ironic, ain't it?
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6833|SE London

If the US government, in their supreme wisdom, believe that massive military aid for a nation with one of the best funded armed forces in the world and one of the worst track records with using it responsibly - then who are we to argue.
--->[Your]Phobia<---
Member
+35|7008|UK - England
US government is riddled with people obsessed with Israeli. I think they should stop ALL aid going to Israel, maybe then they will stop killing innocent Palestinian childern.
CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|6807
So the US are going to give state terrorists an extra half billion. Big wow. A lot of Americans won't even give a shit that their hard earned cash is leaving the country so some folks with funny round hats can devise exciting new ways of demolishing homes and shooting children.

Last edited by CameronPoe (2006-09-30 11:52:29)

sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7009|Argentina

CameronPoe wrote:

So the US are going to give state terrorists an extra half billion. Big wow. A lot of Americans won't even give a shit that their hard earned cash is leaving the country so some folks with funny round hats can devise exciting new ways of demolishing homes and shooting children.
The slogan is "let's help the terrorists and forget about our people, screw them".
[UTQ]_Ausch88
Banned
+23|6747

CameronPoe wrote:

So the US are going to give state terrorists an extra half billion. Big wow. A lot of Americans won't even give a shit that their hard earned cash is leaving the country so some folks with funny round hats can devise exciting new ways of demolishing homes and shooting children.
what is funny is that the administration didnt even ask for that much money.. and the corrupt congress infested by zionists decided to double the ammount of money going to ISRAEL

"The Bush administration initially requests a USD 268 million increase to military aid to Israel, but the congress double that amount citing the importance of US-Israeli military cooperation.
"
PRiMACORD
Member
+190|6877|Home of the Escalade Herds

AlbertWesker[RE] wrote:

Oh so firing rockets is another word for negotiate.......yah ok.
I don't blame you for having your facts so contorted, Israel always whines and bitches to make it look like Hezbollah started the major violence (rockets).

Israel started bombing FIRST.

July 2006: Hezbollah militants cross into Israel, kill three Israeli soldiers and kidnap two others in a bid to negotiate a prisoner exchange, a demand rebuffed by Israel. Another five Israeli soldiers are killed after the ambush. Israel responds with a naval blockade and by bombing hundreds of targets in Lebanon, including Beirut's airport and Hezbollah's headquarters in southern Beirut. Hezbollah responds with rocket attacks targeting northern Israeli cities. Fighting leaves dozens of Lebanese civilians dead and coincides with a two-week-old Israeli military campaign in Gaza in response to the kidnapping of an Israeli soldier by Palestinian militants.
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/07/ … .timeline/

Last edited by PRiMACORD (2006-09-30 14:34:35)

Stingray24
Proud member of the vast right-wing conspiracy
+1,060|6697|The Land of Scott Walker

sergeriver wrote:

AlbertWesker[RE] wrote:

sergeriver wrote:


No, killing more than 1000 people after two POW's is.
Yep, only those 2 POW's died....nothing happened in the past to cause this.  Not at all.
Look man, after all this mess Hezbollah wanted to negotiate and Israel said fuck off.  How is Israel in position to refuse a negotiation when its existence depends on doing this?
Because "negotiate" to Hezbollah means "please don't shoot Israel, give us time to reload".  Come on.  Wake up and smell the coffee, man.  Israel cannot afford to be soft.  They're surrounded by countries sworn to wipe them off the map.  What the hell would you do if all your neighbors wanted to kill you and said so on international TV?  Wait for em to come?  Hell no, you'd kill as many as you could before they got to your back door!  You people must really love Hezbollah to post this way.
JaMDuDe
Member
+69|7029
Only half a billion? We should aim for 5 billion next year.
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6903|USA

jonsimon wrote:

The frank truth is Israel is as unjustifiably violent to its neighbors as you think its neighbors may be towards it.

No peace can be negotiated because Israel will accept nothing short of unconditional surrender. And Israel can broker no peace because it will propose nothing but such.
Let me write that one down................ISRAEL is the violent one............. ok got it

Kinda hard to explain away the reputation of all the Muslims radicals hiding and fighting and using civilians as shields doesn't it?? Not to mention all the riots and murders carried out by Muslims ON VIDEO.

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