BF2S Forums I was wrong about Jalalabad

when i play this map its always with a few great players at a lan cafe so we always end up winning it for the mec but i understand how easy it is for the u.s all you need is 1 lone jeep to sneak through an take market , hotel or even mosque

Masterstyle wrote:

infantry only is waaay different, since there are no vehicles, the win just goes to the better nade spammers

and to the defending team, because us has to cross a way to big open field for one flag

imdead wrote:

We have no problem winning on either side on IO....For the idiots complaining about the nade spammers 1) its in every game 2) what do you want them to do, Throw Rocks? 3) I like dodging the nades, it reminds me of '42 Omaha where you have to plan your strategy.

in IO nade spamming is even more intense its like people have forgotten what those little shiny things are ingame(oh bullets!).

oh and dont forget about dumb medics that dont know how to revive  http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?id=45953

Nadespamming rules

16 player are made to pointwhore, nothing else. Anyway again I have no problem in avoiding nades, but when 32 of them come down at once what would you do? Oh wait you guys dont play full 64's.. anyway, avoiding them takes some teamwork and rushing, I see most of you just sit back... snipers..no problem, support..no problem, its the friggin' medics that are a pain with the AK. Come play and we'll show you how to cap flags and get past the nades,or you can just sit there complaining about the nadefest, yeah there are nades, so what.

We own a IO Jalalabad and at the moment a IO City Maps server, both 64, it might be too much for you guys.

imdead wrote:

16 player are made to pointwhore, nothing else. Anyway again I have no problem in avoiding nades, but when 32 of them come down at once what would you do? Oh wait you guys dont play full 64's.. anyway, avoiding them takes some teamwork and rushing, I see most of you just sit back... snipers..no problem, support..no problem, its the friggin' medics that are a pain with the AK. Come play and we'll show you how to cap flags and get past the nades,or you can just sit there complaining about the nadefest, yeah there are nades, so what.

We own a IO Jalalabad and at the moment a IO City Maps server, both 64, it might be too much for you guys.

I was refering to map size not player count and I do like to play with more people.  I get more points on larger maps with more people than I do with 16 people on a small map.   Theres just more to shoot at and more flags to cap so I don't think that the 16 player config is for pt whores.  But 16 player map with 64 people in infantry mode is great, lots heavy gun fights.

Last edited by cheshiremoe (2006-09-29 07:51:02)

I agree that it's a pissy map, but there are ways to hold your own on the mec end of things.  Don't use the tanks as a main offensive weapon.  Engies and AT are crucial to victory, and the sniper kits are a big distraction.  You need to cover, and let the enemy come to you on this map.  Mine the main entrances to the city and setup AT.  Place tanks in either a higher protected area with a good overview of the incoming roads, or if low, park them angled just beind a buidling facing the main entrances.  The big guns and mg's on the tank are extra coverfire that needs to be used.

You make them come to you over open ground, and you can win as MEC.  Throw away the friggin sniper rifles and take a kit that can keep you in the match like a medic or assault.  The nade launcher works well to move packs of troops closer together for the tanks to mow down.  Launch the nades on the outer flanks, and it'll usually move the pack to the center.

whats wrong with throwing nades??? everyone except A/T has em and it's not like you can't see em coming

I agree. The US have too many favs, they need to have like half. Also it's so stupid how the lake flag basically just gives a shortcut right into the middle of the city, either market or junkyard and then the dreaded "we've lost control of the Outpost outpost" follows in about a minute.

Of course it's not fair. The US team puts all their energy into the all so important Lake and Outpost sections, the MEC side just has to sit there and fire away blindly. That's if you have a bunch of knuckleheads.

Get a decent team and the US side is pretty much a sure win.

Jalalabad reminds me of Karkand. People swarm to the Hotel because it has....uh....er....hm....hell I don't know why they do it!

Rumfuddle wrote:

In a couple postings I defended this map as balanced and that the win went to the better team (I'm talking about full 64 player, not infantry only).  After playing this map a lot more I find I was wrong, wrong, wrong.  A merely ok US team can win this map almost every time, but it takes a good MEC team to win anytime.  The third tank spawn for the US throws off the balance, and there simply aren't enough choke points for the MEC to use to fend off persistent-minded fav drivers.  For the MEC to win consistently there has to be at least a small squad defending the hotel and the mosque, and not just a lone sniper.  And any server that has FF on for mines completely tilts the game to the US because it throws off the ability of the MEC engineers to defend choke points where MEC armor needs to drive as well. 

I'm not telling many of you anything new, I'm just here to eat a little crow.

duh the advatange alawys goes to the attacking team in bf2 oh, wait. wake island. sorry.