sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
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Richard Clarke was right.
Richard Clarke by BBC News.

Last edited by sergeriver (2006-09-29 06:07:58)

Aenima_Eyes
Member
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Here Mr. Bush. . .we had 8 years to get shit done and we had better things to do.  Now, we're gonna leave you this memo so if and when the shit hits the fan everyone will blame you.  Cheerio!
usmarine
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Aenima_Eyes wrote:

Here Mr. Bush. . .we had 8 years to get shit done and we had better things to do.  Now, we're gonna leave you this memo so if and when the shit hits the fan everyone will blame you.  Cheerio!
QFT

8 years of terrorist attacks all over the world.  And while we steal the furniture, here is a poorly written memo.
Aenima_Eyes
Member
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usmarine2005 wrote:

Aenima_Eyes wrote:

Here Mr. Bush. . .we had 8 years to get shit done and we had better things to do.  Now, we're gonna leave you this memo so if and when the shit hits the fan everyone will blame you.  Cheerio!
QFT

8 years of terrorist attacks all over the world.  And while we steal the furniture, here is a poorly written memo.
HAHAHA!  So true!  Didn't Bill and Hillary nab the silverware too? 

The only thing I have to ask DICK Clarke is this. . .if the threat was SOOOOOOOO great at that time and you knew SOOOOOOOOO much about it. . .why only a memo, sir?  Why didn't you hold press conferences then?  Why didn't you storm into the Oval Office and demand to be heard?  If you KNEW American lives were in grave danger why didn't you do more than type up a piece of paper?
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
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usmarine2005 wrote:

Aenima_Eyes wrote:

Here Mr. Bush. . .we had 8 years to get shit done and we had better things to do.  Now, we're gonna leave you this memo so if and when the shit hits the fan everyone will blame you.  Cheerio!
QFT

8 years of terrorist attacks all over the world.  And while we steal the furniture, here is a poorly written memo.
Here Citizens of America we've been alerted of this threat but we didn't do a shit coz the dems told us about it.  Even Richard Clark who worked with Reagan told us to do something, but we didn't give a shit.
usmarine
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sergeriver wrote:

usmarine2005 wrote:

Aenima_Eyes wrote:

Here Mr. Bush. . .we had 8 years to get shit done and we had better things to do.  Now, we're gonna leave you this memo so if and when the shit hits the fan everyone will blame you.  Cheerio!
QFT

8 years of terrorist attacks all over the world.  And while we steal the furniture, here is a poorly written memo.
Here Citizens of America we've been alerted of this threat but we didn't do a shit coz the dems told us about it.  Even Richard Clark who worked with Reagan told us to do something, but we didn't give a shit.
Don't you get it.  We all know everyone fucked up, but Clinton failed big time and it is time people admit that.
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7006|Argentina

Aenima_Eyes wrote:

usmarine2005 wrote:

Aenima_Eyes wrote:

Here Mr. Bush. . .we had 8 years to get shit done and we had better things to do.  Now, we're gonna leave you this memo so if and when the shit hits the fan everyone will blame you.  Cheerio!
QFT

8 years of terrorist attacks all over the world.  And while we steal the furniture, here is a poorly written memo.
HAHAHA!  So true!  Didn't Bill and Hillary nab the silverware too? 

The only thing I have to ask DICK Clarke is this. . .if the threat was SOOOOOOOO great at that time and you knew SOOOOOOOOO much about it. . .why only a memo, sir?  Why didn't you hold press conferences then?  Why didn't you storm into the Oval Office and demand to be heard?  If you KNEW American lives were in grave danger why didn't you do more than type up a piece of paper?
The only thing I have to ask DICK Bush is this...if the threat was SOOOOOOOO great at that time and you knew  SOOOOOOOOO much about it...why didn't you listen to Richard Clarke?  If you KNEW American lives were in grave danger why didn't you do more?
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
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usmarine2005 wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

usmarine2005 wrote:

QFT

8 years of terrorist attacks all over the world.  And while we steal the furniture, here is a poorly written memo.
Here Citizens of America we've been alerted of this threat but we didn't do a shit coz the dems told us about it.  Even Richard Clark who worked with Reagan told us to do something, but we didn't give a shit.
Don't you get it.  We all know everyone fucked up, but Clinton failed big time and it is time people admit that.
Don't you understand that GWB is responsible for 9/11, he was told Bin Laden was planning to do that, he was offered Bin Laden in a gift box in February of 2001 but he refused that offer.  He never listened to the top adviser in counter terrorism Richard Clarke who told him this was gonna happen several times, not in a memo but in a profile of Al Qaeda.

Last edited by sergeriver (2006-09-29 06:46:14)

Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
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8 years vs 8 months.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
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Kmarion wrote:

8 years vs 8 months.
When did this happen?  Clinton was not offered Bin Laden by the Taliban, Clinton wasn't told 9/11 was going to happen.  If Clinton did so bad about terrorism why did Bush picked Richard Clarke (only Clinton administration member in Bush Administration) as main terrorism adviser?
usmarine
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sergeriver wrote:

usmarine2005 wrote:

sergeriver wrote:


Here Citizens of America we've been alerted of this threat but we didn't do a shit coz the dems told us about it.  Even Richard Clark who worked with Reagan told us to do something, but we didn't give a shit.
Don't you get it.  We all know everyone fucked up, but Clinton failed big time and it is time people admit that.
Don't you understand that GWB is responsible for 9/11, he was told Bin Laden was planning to do that, he was offered Bin Laden in a gift box in February of 2001 but he refused that offer.  He never listened to the top adviser in counter terrorism Richard Clarke who told him this was gonna happen several times, not in a memo but in a profile of Al Qaeda.
LOL.  He was TOLD OBL was trying to do that?  Here is an idea, maybe bubba should have taken him out, or weakened their capabilities.  If they were so sure this stuff was going to happen, why didn't they do anything about it before they left office?
Cybargs
Moderated
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sergeriver wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

8 years vs 8 months.
When did this happen?  Clinton was not offered Bin Laden by the Taliban, Clinton wasn't told 9/11 was going to happen.  If Clinton did so bad about terrorism why did Bush picked Richard Clarke (only Clinton administration member in Bush Administration) as main terrorism adviser?
He had the chance to fire a missile at bin laden, but he didnt.
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usmarine
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sergeriver wrote:

Clinton wasn't told 9/11 was going to happen

sergeriver wrote:

Don't you understand that GWB is responsible for 9/11, he was told Bin Laden was planning to do that
So in eight months the Bush admin figured out what Clinton couldn't figure out in 8 years?

Last edited by usmarine2005 (2006-09-29 07:16:04)

kr@cker
Bringin' Sexy Back!
+581|6798|Southeastern USA

usmarine2005 wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

usmarine2005 wrote:


Don't you get it.  We all know everyone fucked up, but Clinton failed big time and it is time people admit that.
Don't you understand that GWB is responsible for 9/11, he was told Bin Laden was planning to do that, he was offered Bin Laden in a gift box in February of 2001 but he refused that offer.  He never listened to the top adviser in counter terrorism Richard Clarke who told him this was gonna happen several times, not in a memo but in a profile of Al Qaeda.
LOL.  He was TOLD OBL was trying to do that?  Here is an idea, maybe bubba should have taken him out, or weakened their capabilities.  If they were so sure this stuff was going to happen, why didn't they do anything about it before they left office?
he was only offered bin laden 3 times, you know you have to wait at least 4
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7006|Argentina

usmarine2005 wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

usmarine2005 wrote:

Don't you get it.  We all know everyone fucked up, but Clinton failed big time and it is time people admit that.
Don't you understand that GWB is responsible for 9/11, he was told Bin Laden was planning to do that, he was offered Bin Laden in a gift box in February of 2001 but he refused that offer.  He never listened to the top adviser in counter terrorism Richard Clarke who told him this was gonna happen several times, not in a memo but in a profile of Al Qaeda.
LOL.  He was TOLD OBL was trying to do that?  Here is an idea, maybe bubba should have taken him out, or weakened their capabilities.  If they were so sure this stuff was going to happen, why didn't they do anything about it before they left office?
Clinton tried and failed, but he tried.  But 9/11 is Bush full responsibility.  He had been at the office for 8 months at that moment, 8 months which are far more important to stop the attacks than the 8 years of Clinton.  In these 8 months he didn't listened to any of the alerts he had.  Clinton worked in this issue along with Richard Clarke, and if he did so bad why did Bush take him then?

Last edited by sergeriver (2006-09-29 07:28:41)

usmarine
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sergeriver wrote:

usmarine2005 wrote:

sergeriver wrote:


Don't you understand that GWB is responsible for 9/11, he was told Bin Laden was planning to do that, he was offered Bin Laden in a gift box in February of 2001 but he refused that offer.  He never listened to the top adviser in counter terrorism Richard Clarke who told him this was gonna happen several times, not in a memo but in a profile of Al Qaeda.
LOL.  He was TOLD OBL was trying to do that?  Here is an idea, maybe bubba should have taken him out, or weakened their capabilities.  If they were so sure this stuff was going to happen, why didn't they do anything about it before they left office?
Clinton tried and failed, but he tried.  But 9/11 is Bush full responsibility.  He had been at the office for 8 months at that moment, 8 months which are far more important to stop the attacks than the 8 years of Clinton.  In these 8 months he didn't listened to any of the alerts he had.  Clinton worked in this issue along with Richard Clarke, and if he did so bad why did Bush take him then?
Hmmm...so it was ok for Bubba to use CIA and FBI issues as an excuse in that Mike Wallace interview, but Bush had the exact thing and it is his fault 100%?
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7006|Argentina

usmarine2005 wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

usmarine2005 wrote:


LOL.  He was TOLD OBL was trying to do that?  Here is an idea, maybe bubba should have taken him out, or weakened their capabilities.  If they were so sure this stuff was going to happen, why didn't they do anything about it before they left office?
Clinton tried and failed, but he tried.  But 9/11 is Bush full responsibility.  He had been at the office for 8 months at that moment, 8 months which are far more important to stop the attacks than the 8 years of Clinton.  In these 8 months he didn't listened to any of the alerts he had.  Clinton worked in this issue along with Richard Clarke, and if he did so bad why did Bush take him then?
Hmmm...so it was ok for Bubba to use CIA and FBI issues as an excuse in that Mike Wallace interview, but Bush had the exact thing and it is his fault 100%?
You can't know your wife is having a baby, before she gets pregnant.
usmarine
Banned
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sergeriver wrote:

usmarine2005 wrote:

sergeriver wrote:


Clinton tried and failed, but he tried.  But 9/11 is Bush full responsibility.  He had been at the office for 8 months at that moment, 8 months which are far more important to stop the attacks than the 8 years of Clinton.  In these 8 months he didn't listened to any of the alerts he had.  Clinton worked in this issue along with Richard Clarke, and if he did so bad why did Bush take him then?
Hmmm...so it was ok for Bubba to use CIA and FBI issues as an excuse in that Mike Wallace interview, but Bush had the exact thing and it is his fault 100%?
You can't know your wife is having a baby, before she gets pregnant.
If you spend 8 years trying to get her pregnant, it is bound to happen.
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7006|Argentina

usmarine2005 wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

usmarine2005 wrote:


Hmmm...so it was ok for Bubba to use CIA and FBI issues as an excuse in that Mike Wallace interview, but Bush had the exact thing and it is his fault 100%?
You can't know your wife is having a baby, before she gets pregnant.
If you spend 8 years trying to get her pregnant, it is bound to happen.
Since the moment she gets pregnant it usually takes about 9 months to have the kid, almost the same time GWB was at the office when 9/11 took place.  If all Richard Clarke said in his book isn't true why wasn't he taken before a jury?
usmarine
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sergeriver wrote:

If all Richard Clarke said in his book isn't true why wasn't he taken before a jury?
So, let me get this straight.  The day GW stepped into office, OBL finally decided to blow up the World Trade Center?  Clarke just figured that out all of a sudden?
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
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usmarine2005 wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

If all Richard Clarke said in his book isn't true why wasn't he taken before a jury?
So, let me get this straight.  The day GW stepped into office, OBL finally decided to blow up the World Trade Center?  Clarke just figured that out all of a sudden?
No, but the warnings came within those 8 months.  GWB was offered Bin Laden and he refused the offer, what war is he fighting?
cpt.fass1
The Cap'n Can Make it Hap'n
+329|6945|NJ
So wait 9/11 is all Clintons fault? Bush wasn't in office, also I belive Al Quadi aren't that old of an organization.

Hey I use to work at a job where I was a manager for a large contract, I ended up leaving and training my replacement. About 6 months after I left the contract left. Is that my fault?
Aenima_Eyes
Member
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Is it just me or has sergeriver been watching Keith Olberman and the video of Clinton's rant and just parroting what they've been saying?

"Clinton tried and failed, but he tried."  What the fuck?!?!

Seriously, having 8 years in which NUMEROUS terrorist attacks occured and then "Drawing up a battle plan" and NEVER DOING A GODDAMN THING ABOUT IT because you didn't want to hurt your image is not "trying" in my book.

Also. . .GWB and his Administration DIDN'T know anything about OBL or his plans except for one tiny memo by Dick Clarke.  Do you know the number of things that have to pass in front of Bush and his Cabinet on a daily basis?  Clarke was the one with all the info and instead of screaming it to the heavens he wrote up the equivalent of a shitty term paper and washed his hands of the matter.

Now he wants to go back and say that he was this beacon of truth or some shit as to the threat OBL posed to America.  HORSESHIT.

Richard Clarke goes around with this self-righteous look on his face going "I told you so" and it's pathetic considering how many years he had to get a handle on OBL and Al-Qaeda and he didn't get anything accomplished.  I mean. . .after the first attacks on the WTC. . .the barracks bombing. . .the embassy bombing. . .the attack on the Cole. . .JUST TO NAME A FEW. . .and you STILL can't convince Clinton to pull the trigger????

It's ok tho. . .you'll just write a "memo" and that will absolve you of all wrongdoing, place the blame squarely on Dubya, and erase all the years of your ineptitude.  Congrats.

Also. . .on a final note.  Just because there was some supposed rumor that they were going to offer up OBL doesn't mean they were going to.  It also doesn't mean that they had the ability to even if they had wanted to.
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7006|Argentina

Aenima_Eyes wrote:

Is it just me or has sergeriver been watching Keith Olberman and the video of Clinton's rant and just parroting what they've been saying?

"Clinton tried and failed, but he tried."  What the fuck?!?!

Seriously, having 8 years in which NUMEROUS terrorist attacks occured and then "Drawing up a battle plan" and NEVER DOING A GODDAMN THING ABOUT IT because you didn't want to hurt your image is not "trying" in my book.

Also. . .GWB and his Administration DIDN'T know anything about OBL or his plans except for one tiny memo by Dick Clarke.  Do you know the number of things that have to pass in front of Bush and his Cabinet on a daily basis?  Clarke was the one with all the info and instead of screaming it to the heavens he wrote up the equivalent of a shitty term paper and washed his hands of the matter.

Now he wants to go back and say that he was this beacon of truth or some shit as to the threat OBL posed to America.  HORSESHIT.

Richard Clarke goes around with this self-righteous look on his face going "I told you so" and it's pathetic considering how many years he had to get a handle on OBL and Al-Qaeda and he didn't get anything accomplished.  I mean. . .after the first attacks on the WTC. . .the barracks bombing. . .the embassy bombing. . .the attack on the Cole. . .JUST TO NAME A FEW. . .and you STILL can't convince Clinton to pull the trigger????

It's ok tho. . .you'll just write a "memo" and that will absolve you of all wrongdoing, place the blame squarely on Dubya, and erase all the years of your ineptitude.  Congrats.

Also. . .on a final note.  Just because there was some supposed rumor that they were going to offer up OBL doesn't mean they were going to.  It also doesn't mean that they had the ability to even if they had wanted to.
I ain't lucky as you, since you handle information from your own sources from CIA and Pentagon, sorry.
You can bash me all you want I couldn't care less.  When you come with some kind of source tell me.
In the meanwhile the only thing you do is bashing me and saying BS, horseshit, etc.  I have a cousin in Florida, he is American and wish to work at the CIA, could you get him a job interview with your friends there?
kr@cker
Bringin' Sexy Back!
+581|6798|Southeastern USA
as opposed to your infallible sources? who? a bunch of out of work stand-up comedians like Al Franken, Jon Stewart, Janeane Garofalo, and Bill Maher?


though I do like the fact you used the word "ain't", are you native argentine or a transplant?

Last edited by kr@cker (2006-09-29 09:12:23)

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