[bpuk]jack
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passed a hindu mosque or whatever theyre called near where il live and it had a swastika on a flag on top .. i know its supposed to be the hindu simple for peace but still after what its been used as a symbol of hatred and tyranny for a nazi police state I think they should not use it in public as it does cause offence.
cpt.fass1
The Cap'n Can Make it Hap'n
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Originaly the swastika was used to ward off evil spirits. And if you looked at it you'd notice the arms go the other way.  The Iron Cross something that symbolized Nazis as well is something that is still used in the U.S. Military.
=JoD=Corithus
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It had been used as a symbol of peace for thousands of years before some Austrian with a god complex slapped it on his tanks.
[bpuk]jack
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cpt.fass1 wrote:

Originaly the swastika was used to ward off evil spirits. And if you looked at it you'd notice the arms go the other way.  The Iron Cross something that symbolized Nazis as well is something that is still used in the U.S. Military.
the iron cross didnt symoblize nazism.  Hitler took the Swastika to be the Nazi partys' logo from a book of religious symbols.  The iron cross was used in germany as a medal for valour for over two hundred years prior to the 1930s in Hitlers rise to power
cpt.fass1
The Cap'n Can Make it Hap'n
+329|6893|NJ
https://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b84/kcos45/iron_cross_150.gif


cause noone's seen this?
I also not that comfortable looking for this or putting this in my photobucket but ahh well..

Last edited by cpt.fass1 (2006-09-26 13:40:11)

mafia996630
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"passed a hindu mosque ?."

that's just sad dude.
Kaosdad
Whisky Tango Foxtrot?
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cpt.fass1 wrote:

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b84/k … ss_150.gif


cause noone's seen this?
I also not that comfortable looking for this or putting this in my photobucket but ahh well..
Understandable, but's a part of human history.  If we try and cover things up, they will only get repeated.  As long as everyone understands you posting it as an example and not as a promotion, you shouldn't feel uncomfortable.
cpt.fass1
The Cap'n Can Make it Hap'n
+329|6893|NJ
Well I also have reunion pics from our High school reunion up on photobucket.. OH well hopefully no one will see it and get the wrong idea.. Not trying to cover things up just saying that the Iron Cross is used for the U.S. Military and predominatly know for the nazis... I use to rock my dad's sharpshoting medal from vietnam in my high school days, and would get called on it by Minorities(people other then white) all the time. Where I'd have to tell them it's from my dad who fought in vietnam...
jsnipy
...
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Hindu is to temple as Islam is to mosque

swastika is actually Chinese in origin -- u probably saw a Buddhist Temple.
ATG
Banned
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Its actually of Germainic celtic origins.

Last edited by ATG (2006-09-26 14:08:35)

jsnipy
...
+3,276|6719|...

ATG wrote:

Its actual of Germainic celtic origins.
Actually were both wrong ...


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/4183467.stm

Last edited by jsnipy (2006-09-26 14:13:19)

TeamZephyr
Maintaining My Rage Since 1975
+124|6726|Hillside, Melbourne, Australia

[bpuk]jack wrote:

The iron cross was used in germany as a medal for valour for over two hundred years prior to the 1930s in Hitlers rise to power
I find that pretty hard to believe.

Probably because Germany had only been around since the late 1800s.
Ryan
Member
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cpt.fass1 wrote:

Originaly the swastika was used to ward off evil spirits. And if you looked at it you'd notice the arms go the other way.  The Iron Cross something that symbolized Nazis as well is something that is still used in the U.S. Military.
Sure, it was used to ward off evil spirits, but not many people know that. The majority of the population know it as the Nazi symbol, promoting evil and Nazism.
CaptainMike
It's just a flesh wound
+45|6842|Canada

TeamZephyr wrote:

[bpuk]jack wrote:

The iron cross was used in germany as a medal for valour for over two hundred years prior to the 1930s in Hitlers rise to power
I find that pretty hard to believe.

Probably because Germany had only been around since the late 1800s.
The iron cross has been used by the German Army since 1813.
Darth_Fleder
Mod from the Church of the Painful Truth
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ryan_14 wrote:

Sure, it was used to ward off evil spirits, but not many people know that. The majority of the population know it as the Nazi symbol, promoting evil and Nazism.
Well, maybe its time that 'the majority of the population' learn a little more, don't you think?
cpt.fass1
The Cap'n Can Make it Hap'n
+329|6893|NJ
I actually learned about the swastika from Kojak the Night Stalker which was an awesome tv show... I kinda hang my head in shame about that, but it seems to be acuate..
TeamZephyr
Maintaining My Rage Since 1975
+124|6726|Hillside, Melbourne, Australia

CaptainMike wrote:

TeamZephyr wrote:

[bpuk]jack wrote:

The iron cross was used in germany as a medal for valour for over two hundred years prior to the 1930s in Hitlers rise to power
I find that pretty hard to believe.

Probably because Germany had only been around since the late 1800s.
The iron cross has been used by the German Army since 1813.
I think you mean the Prussian Army. Germany as a nation didn't exist until 1871.

And 1813 still isn't the "two hundred years prior" that bpuk jack stated.
[-DER-]Omega
membeR
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What color is it? I believe green blue and red symbolize peace and things of that nature. Only the black swastika means hatred
https://bf3s.com/sigs/fe717ed1eb823c939460a42f15bced7dd0057c51.png
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
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Darth_Fleder wrote:

ryan_14 wrote:

Sure, it was used to ward off evil spirits, but not many people know that. The majority of the population know it as the Nazi symbol, promoting evil and Nazism.
Well, maybe its time that 'the majority of the population' learn a little more, don't you think?
Q. F. F-ing. T.
kr@cker
Bringin' Sexy Back!
+581|6746|Southeastern USA
one of the few time wiki seems to be on about something, though most of the time I see it used as a zen or buddhist symbol it is opposite the nazi swastika and always had the dot in the apex of each arm, the last two instances I can remember it being used in it's proper fashion were the "blade of the immortal" graphic novels and "master of the flying guillotine" kung fu movie (features "betty" from kung pao and possibly the source of the "dhalsim" character from the street fighter series
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6758

[-DER-]Omega wrote:

What color is it? I believe green blue and red symbolize peace and things of that nature. Only the black swastika means hatred
I doubt it, typically symbols aren't color specific because whatever was on hand was used to make them.
kr@cker
Bringin' Sexy Back!
+581|6746|Southeastern USA
I usually see it as: right half is black arms on white field, left half is white arms on black field, it's supposedly the precursor to the yen/yang emblem
midnitebassist
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unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Darth_Fleder wrote:

ryan_14 wrote:

Sure, it was used to ward off evil spirits, but not many people know that. The majority of the population know it as the Nazi symbol, promoting evil and Nazism.
Well, maybe its time that 'the majority of the population' learn a little more, don't you think?
Q. F. F-ing. T.
47man
Member
+46|6621|Cali

TeamZephyr wrote:

CaptainMike wrote:

TeamZephyr wrote:


I find that pretty hard to believe.

Probably because Germany had only been around since the late 1800s.
The iron cross has been used by the German Army since 1813.
I think you mean the Prussian Army. Germany as a nation didn't exist until 1871.

And 1813 still isn't the "two hundred years prior" that bpuk jack stated.
Somebody actually knows their history... you have no idea how surprised I am somebody actually caught that statement.
Rosse_modest
Member
+76|6973|Antwerp, Flanders

mafia996630 wrote:

"passed a hindu mosque ?."

that's just sad dude.
More like... tragic.  A Hindu mosque. That's the most horrible thing I've ever heard.

There's nothing wrong with such use of the swastika. People who think otherwise should re-educate themselves. As to it being offensive... The swastika was not what plunged all of Europe into war, nor did the swastika try to eradicate people in concentration camps. Hitler had a mustache, but oddly enough you don't think a mustache is offensive?

Last edited by Rosse_modest (2006-09-27 01:42:22)

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