sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7003|Argentina
The UN keeps sending deadlines to Iran to stop their nuclear power research, when Iran probably has nukes since a while.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3481499.stm
mafia996630
© 2009 Jeff Minard
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Prove Iran has nukes.
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7003|Argentina

mafia996630 wrote:

Prove Iran has nukes.
For what this article says you can have a nuke in your garage.
mafia996630
© 2009 Jeff Minard
+319|7009|d

sergeriver wrote:

mafia996630 wrote:

Prove Iran has nukes.
For what this article says you can have a nuke in your garage.
, i dont have a garage.
BN
smells like wee wee
+159|7014
Maybe Saddam gave him Iraq's nuke before they were invaded.

No sale, we got lied to once before or and the apologists call it "faulty intelligence".

Let's not start another war we cannot handle.
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6775|Global Command

BN wrote:

Maybe Saddam gave him Iraq's nuke before they were invaded.

No sale, we got lied to once before or and the apologists call it "faulty intelligence".

Let's not start another war we cannot handle.
You need to see this thread...stat!
http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?pid=794940#p794940
pot_o_gold
Member
+4|6684
kk first of all  saddam spend tonnes of money  developing chemical weapons used in the iran-iraq war i duno if u ever herd of that but ever since he used those chemical weapons on the iranian army they havent exactly been tight haha so it wud be in his worst interest to give an enemy of his the means to destroy baghdad and on the topic of invading iran i dont think a conventional invasion would be necissary all you have to do is bomb their facilities for manufacturing these weapons and if iran had a nuke they would prove it as soon as possible in order to stop a possible us led attack to prevent a radical country such as that from aqquiring such weapons
Spearhead
Gulf coast redneck hippy
+731|6936|Tampa Bay Florida
I heard just today that Iran is far from developing nukes.
BVC
Member
+325|6941
I think one of the key issues here is the Fatwa against nuclear weapons, and whether the Iranians will stick to it...if they're deeply religious they may well do.
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7003|Argentina

Spearhead wrote:

I heard just today that Iran is far from developing nukes.
Far from developing, yes, but from buying them?  Read the article.  Al-Qaeda itself could have a nuke.
Rosse_modest
Member
+76|7022|Antwerp, Flanders

sergeriver wrote:

Spearhead wrote:

I heard just today that Iran is far from developing nukes.
Far from developing, yes, but from buying them?  Read the article.  Al-Qaeda itself could have a nuke.
I think if Al Qaeda had a nuke they'd actually use it, to show the world how completely futile the war on terrorism really is. They would not give or sell it to Iran.

"The story begins in the early 1970s. An ambitious young Pakistani metallurgist Abdul Qadeer Khan (known in the style of the sub-continent by his initials AQ) was working in the Netherlands for a Dutch company called Physics Dynamic Research Laboratory."

I knew those damn Dutch were gonna get us into trouble.

Last edited by Rosse_modest (2006-09-22 05:04:27)

Tetrino
International OMGWTFBBQ
+200|6977|Uhh... erm...
I don't understand why America has such an issue with Middle-Eastern nations developing nuclear weapons. They themselves have bunches of nukes at their disposal. They don't really mind North Korea making them. What's the deal?

In any case, there is no solid proof of Iran developing and/or buying nukes. Even if they did, what's the deal?

My two cents.
BN
smells like wee wee
+159|7014

Tetrino wrote:

I don't understand why America has such an issue with Middle-Eastern nations developing nuclear weapons. They themselves have bunches of nukes at their disposal. They don't really mind North Korea making them. What's the deal?

In any case, there is no solid proof of Iran developing and/or buying nukes. Even if they did, what's the deal?

My two cents.
If they are developing they are probably doing it in self defence. They dont want to end up like Iraq
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7003|Argentina

Rosse_modest wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

Spearhead wrote:

I heard just today that Iran is far from developing nukes.
Far from developing, yes, but from buying them?  Read the article.  Al-Qaeda itself could have a nuke.
I think if Al Qaeda had a nuke they'd actually use it, to show the world how completely futile the war on terrorism really is. They would not give or sell it to Iran.
I didn't mean Al-Qaeda would sell the nuke to Iran, but Iran could buy it anywhere if the article is right.

Last edited by sergeriver (2006-09-22 05:03:46)

Rosse_modest
Member
+76|7022|Antwerp, Flanders

sergeriver wrote:

Rosse_modest wrote:

sergeriver wrote:


Far from developing, yes, but from buying them?  Read the article.  Al-Qaeda itself could have a nuke.
I think if Al Qaeda had a nuke they'd actually use it, to show the world how completely futile the war on terrorism really is. They would not give or sell it to Iran.
I didn't mean Al-Qaeda would sell the nuke to Iran, but Iran could buy it anywhere if the article is right.
So can you.

I only skimmed the article, and from what I read it doesnt say anywhere that Iran can buy it. It only says they acquired equipment for fuel enrichment and may also have acquired technical expertise on the making of a nuclear weapon.
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7003|Argentina

Rosse_modest wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

Rosse_modest wrote:


I think if Al Qaeda had a nuke they'd actually use it, to show the world how completely futile the war on terrorism really is. They would not give or sell it to Iran.
I didn't mean Al-Qaeda would sell the nuke to Iran, but Iran could buy it anywhere if the article is right.
So can you.

I only skimmed the article, and from what I read it doesnt say anywhere that Iran can buy it. It only says they acquired equipment for fuel enrichment and may also have acquired technical expertise on the making of a nuclear weapon.
What else then do you need to make a nuke?
BN
smells like wee wee
+159|7014

sergeriver wrote:

What else then do you need to make a nuke?
desire
lehter
Member
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sergeriver wrote:

Rosse_modest wrote:

I only skimmed the article, and from what I read it doesnt say anywhere that Iran can buy it. It only says they acquired equipment for fuel enrichment and may also have acquired technical expertise on the making of a nuclear weapon.
What else then do you need to make a nuke?
Weapons-grade nuclear material.

Which is why the western world is so worried about Iran's nuclear program. They fear the Iran is enriching the material, which they have, to weapons-grade, not just nuclear power plants grade.

Last edited by lehter (2006-09-22 05:57:13)

Sambuccashake
Member
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I find it strange that some countries are somehow allowed to have nukes when others can't.

"-Look here lad, you give me those nukes right now or I swear there will be trouble!"

"But... You've got nukes."

"That's beside the point! We... Well... You... I'm one of the good guys you see? You belong to the bad guys and that's why we are entitled to have 'em!"

"Ergh... Run that by me again will ya?"

*Sigh* 

"Right, we will take this castle by force!"

Sorry about the Python thingy there but I found this whole subject intriguing.

US - OK
France - OK
North Korea - Hell no!
Iran - Are you crazy?!
India - Ok (Even though they haven't signed the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty)
Pakistan - Ok (Even though they haven't signed the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty)

Last edited by Sambuccashake (2006-09-22 06:28:41)

Colfax
PR Only
+70|6890|United States - Illinois

Tetrino wrote:

I don't understand why America has such an issue with Middle-Eastern nations developing nuclear weapons. They themselves have bunches of nukes at their disposal. They don't really mind North Korea making them. What's the deal?

In any case, there is no solid proof of Iran developing and/or buying nukes. Even if they did, what's the deal?

My two cents.
Maybe because Amaidadajad(sp) has said specifically he wants to wipe Israel off the face of the planet.  Also has made comments about destroying the Western world.  I ran is also a terrorist supporting nation i.e. hezbolah (sp).

So yeah lets let them develop nukes wipe out Israel and give nukes to terrorists.  GREAT IDEA!!!!

And yes we mind North Korea making them.  Why do u think all eyes were on N.K. when they were testing rockets.

There is a difference between the U.S. possessing nukes and Iran if you can not differentiate then you need to do some more research.
Colfax
PR Only
+70|6890|United States - Illinois

Sambuccashake wrote:

I find it strange that some countries are somehow allowed to have nukes when others can't.

"-Look here lad, you give me those nukes right now or I swear there will be trouble!"

"But... You've got nukes."

"That's beside the point! We... Well... You... I'm one of the good guys you see? You belong to the bad guys and that's why we are entitled to have 'em!"

"Ergh... Run that by me again will ya?"

*Sigh* 

"Right, we will take this castle by force!"

Sorry about the Python thingy there but I found this whole subject intriguing.

Mr Bush, here's your nuclear armament checklist:

US - OK
France - OK
North Korea - Hell no!
Iran - Are you crazy?!
India - Ok (Even though they haven't signed the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty)
Pakistan - Ok (Even though they haven't signed the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty)
Read my above post
Rosse_modest
Member
+76|7022|Antwerp, Flanders

sergeriver wrote:

Rosse_modest wrote:

sergeriver wrote:


I didn't mean Al-Qaeda would sell the nuke to Iran, but Iran could buy it anywhere if the article is right.
So can you.

I only skimmed the article, and from what I read it doesnt say anywhere that Iran can buy it. It only says they acquired equipment for fuel enrichment and may also have acquired technical expertise on the making of a nuclear weapon.
What else then do you need to make a nuke?
I'm gonna have to copy BN's answer here. Desire. The thing is this equipment can also just be used to enrich the stuff to power plant grade uranium. But this article doesn't say anything about Iran having or buying nuclear weapons, which is what you are saying.
Tetrino
International OMGWTFBBQ
+200|6977|Uhh... erm...

Colfax wrote:

Tetrino wrote:

I don't understand why America has such an issue with Middle-Eastern nations developing nuclear weapons. They themselves have bunches of nukes at their disposal. They don't really mind North Korea making them. What's the deal?

In any case, there is no solid proof of Iran developing and/or buying nukes. Even if they did, what's the deal?

My two cents.
Maybe because Amaidadajad(sp) has said specifically he wants to wipe Israel off the face of the planet.  Also has made comments about destroying the Western world.  I ran is also a terrorist supporting nation i.e. hezbolah (sp).

So yeah lets let them develop nukes wipe out Israel and give nukes to terrorists.  GREAT IDEA!!!!

And yes we mind North Korea making them.  Why do u think all eyes were on N.K. when they were testing rockets.

There is a difference between the U.S. possessing nukes and Iran if you can not differentiate then you need to do some more research.
Only problem is, right now I'm a little too lazy and tired to bother researching the whole "US can have nukes but Iran can't" thing, so if you would be so kind as to fill me in...
aardfrith
Δ > x > ¥
+145|7038

Colfax wrote:

There is a difference between the U.S. possessing nukes and Iran if you can not differentiate then you need to do some more research.
The only difference I see is that Iran hasn't invaded anyone recently.  Sure, they've done a lot of posturing but so has the U.S.
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7003|Argentina

Rosse_modest wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

Rosse_modest wrote:


So can you.

I only skimmed the article, and from what I read it doesnt say anywhere that Iran can buy it. It only says they acquired equipment for fuel enrichment and may also have acquired technical expertise on the making of a nuclear weapon.
What else then do you need to make a nuke?
I'm gonna have to copy BN's answer here. Desire. The thing is this equipment can also just be used to enrich the stuff to power plant grade uranium. But this article doesn't say anything about Iran having or buying nuclear weapons, which is what you are saying.
I'm just guessing, I'm not sure, but the possibility exists.

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