Hey, that's not fair. My voting for whites has nothing to do with me being white. It has to do with the fact that white peope are genetically superior. It's a fact of life.
Poll
What team is going to win the new racially-divided Survivor?
| Asian - just because | 6% | 6% - 7 | ||||
| Black - just because | 4% | 4% - 5 | ||||
| Latino - just because | 3% | 3% - 4 | ||||
| White - just because | 25% | 25% - 26 | ||||
| Asian - because of something about the race/culture | 13% | 13% - 14 | ||||
| Black - because of something about the race/culture | 13% | 13% - 14 | ||||
| Latino - because of something about the race/culture | 2% | 2% - 3 | ||||
| White - because of something about the race/culture | 29% | 29% - 30 | ||||
| Total: 103 | ||||||
It depends on who's willing to give Jeff Probst the most blow jobs.
Huh? Indians and their casinos, whale hunting and free medical/dental can kiss my white American ass. Besides, if the Europeans hadn't moved in, someone else would be in charge over here by now. Or maybe we should go back in time and help out the Ottomans, eh?TrollmeaT wrote:
America wouldn't want to display the society that they destroyed.unnamednewbie13 wrote:
What, no indians?
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Name one nation outside Europe which had a global imperialist/colonialist bent.unnamednewbie13 wrote:
Huh? Indians and their casinos, whale hunting and free medical/dental can kiss my white American ass. Besides, if the Europeans hadn't moved in, someone else would be in charge over here by now.
The Gingers will win (yes we are a minority too) cause people take pity on us and when they do we strike!!!!
*dont ask - bored at work*
*dont ask - bored at work*
the blacks will lose cause they are constantly fighting over bananas.
Gingers aren't a race. People have races. Animals have species. Ergo, Gingers are a species.
who's ergo?
Either I've made a typo, or it means therefore. I'm not entirely sure, I was drunk when I wrote that.
If you want a fairly large example (though unrelated to any particular technological age/world powers grouping), try Mongolia. At any rate, do you think China would've hesitated to colonize the Americas, had they been unclaimed by other powers? Nah, someone would've 'liberated' the injuns from their primitive lifestyle sooner or later.Bubbalo wrote:
Name one nation outside Europe which had a global imperialist/colonialist bent.unnamednewbie13 wrote:
Huh? Indians and their casinos, whale hunting and free medical/dental can kiss my white American ass. Besides, if the Europeans hadn't moved in, someone else would be in charge over here by now.
Anyway, the 'Native Americans' (I was born here, why can't I be called one?) aren't lacking for opportunity.
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Uh, no China wouldn't have. They set up their empire in Asia then sat on it, which is why they were subsequently were colonised. Mongolia I'll grant, but they collapsed.
Are you so sure about China? If there were no real power base in the Americas, yet it had been discovered, do you really think they would've passed up the opportunity to exploit this wealth of natural resources? And speaking of which, there was some amount of significant imperialistic infighting in China's history.Bubbalo wrote:
Uh, no China wouldn't have. They set up their empire in Asia then sat on it, which is why they were subsequently were colonised. Mongolia I'll grant, but they collapsed.
And yes, seats of power collapse. It's what they all eventually do. Fortunately for the rest of the world, Europe provided quite a roadblock of angry men and materiel to foul up the plans of the Mongols. For a more recent example, try the (ex) Soviet Union and its infamous snapping-up of eastern-European nations [though to be fair, they (USSR) were still partly within Europe].
Oh, and I seem to remember the occasional foray against Greece from some eastern power or another...
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If they were so interested, why did they sit around doing nothing until the Europeans showed up, at which point they did their best to not trade?unnamednewbie13 wrote:
Are you so sure about China? If there were no real power base in the Americas, yet it had been discovered, do you really think they would've passed up the opportunity to exploit this wealth of natural resources? And speaking of which, there was some amount of significant imperialistic infighting in China's history.
What the hell does the Soviet Union have to do with anything? Besides which, technically they weren't an empire because technically the states weren't conquered but aligned willingly (albeit through totalitarian regimes). The point is that the Mongolian Empire collapsed long before they showed an interest in building ships. Further, Europe was hardly a roadblock. Genghis Khan was still campaigning up until he died, he simply turned downward into the Middle East rather than push into Western Europe (which, IIRC, had something to do with some king upsetting him somehow).unnamednewbie13 wrote:
And yes, seats of power collapse. It's what they all eventually do. Fortunately for the rest of the world, Europe provided quite a roadblock of angry men and materiel to foul up the plans of the Mongols. For a more recent example, try the (ex) Soviet Union and its infamous snapping-up of eastern-European nations (though to be fair, they are still partly within Europe).
Edit: Wait, you were using the USSR as an example of a non-European power? They had a European government structure, dealt primarily with European powers, aligned with European powers, and viewed Asians as inferior. Further, most of their population was in Europe, or next to the border.
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Xenophobia, and the fact that their power had been worn by internal decadence as well as foreign intervention. However, if they (re)discovered the Americas ('re' applying if you believe in the Asian land-bridge migration), finding that no formidable foreign power already had claim to it, then it would've been a perfect opportunity to expand. If not centuries ago, then recently. All speculative alternate history, though. Hey, look! A pleonasm.Bubbalo wrote:
If they were so interested, why did they sit around doing nothing until the Europeans showed up, at which point they did their best to not trade?unnamednewbie13 wrote:
Are you so sure about China? If there were no real power base in the Americas, yet it had been discovered, do you really think they would've passed up the opportunity to exploit this wealth of natural resources? And speaking of which, there was some amount of significant imperialistic infighting in China's history.
Actually, Europe was a roadblock. Had they not offered stiff (and numerous, if not tactically superior) resistance against a few forays by Mongol forces, they would have expanded into Europe instead of fussing with the unmanageable Middle East. Path of least resistance, all the way.Bubbalo wrote:
What the hell does the Soviet Union have to do with anything? Besides which, technically they weren't an empire because technically the states weren't conquered but aligned willingly (albeit through totalitarian regimes). The point is that the Mongolian Empire collapsed long before they showed an interest in building ships. Further, Europe was hardly a roadblock. Genghis Khan was still campaigning up until he died, he simply turned downward into the Middle East rather than push into Western Europe (which, IIRC, had something to do with some king upsetting him somehow).unnamednewbie13 wrote:
And yes, seats of power collapse. It's what they all eventually do. Fortunately for the rest of the world, Europe provided quite a roadblock of angry men and materiel to foul up the plans of the Mongols. For a more recent example, try the (ex) Soviet Union and its infamous snapping-up of eastern-European nations (though to be fair, they are still partly within Europe).
Edit: Wait, you were using the USSR as an example of a non-European power? They had a European government structure, dealt primarily with European powers, aligned with European powers, and viewed Asians as inferior. Further, most of their population was in Europe, or next to the border.
RE: "Edit" - Which is why I mentioned that. However, to be fair, their lands do extend into Asia.
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There was no "internal decadence" or foreign intervention until after the very colonialism that we are discussing!
As to Mongolia: If Genghis Khan had wanted Europe, he would have expended resources to get it. He didn't, he wanted the Middle East.
As to the USSR: They are not, however, an Asian power. They are a European power.
As to Mongolia: If Genghis Khan had wanted Europe, he would have expended resources to get it. He didn't, he wanted the Middle East.
As to the USSR: They are not, however, an Asian power. They are a European power.
Null Vote. Asians will most likely dominate the thinking challenges with Whites close behind, though whites may have the upper hand in physical challenges (mostly whites dominate) Hispanics and Blacks may need a lot of help. But this is just using stereotypes that are common.
1a. All governments suffer internal decadence to some extent, and it all contributes to the lessening if not outright downfall of a nation's potential.Bubbalo wrote:
There was no "internal decadence" or foreign intervention until after the very colonialism that we are discussing!
As to Mongolia: If Genghis Khan had wanted Europe, he would have expended resources to get it. He didn't, he wanted the Middle East.
As to the USSR: They are not, however, an Asian power. They are a European power.
1b. Speaking of what we were discussing, I would say that the Mongols were a significant factor in pre-Eurocolonialism foreign intervention in the minds of the Chinese of the time.
2. The Mongols wanted the world, but were smart enough to know that they just didn't have enough resources to claim it in its entirety. Expending too many resources in a campaign against the whole of Europe would've left them open to assault from entities closer to home. It was hoped that if the Middle East could be stabilized as a solid ally, that it may be used as a base of operations to wage war against the west.
3. As I said. Why continue to press a point that has been conceded in the very post it was written?
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WTF??? Can we report for comments like this?doneyone wrote:
the blacks will lose cause they are constantly fighting over bananas.
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Yes you can.lt.pritchard wrote:
WTF??? Can we report for comments like this?doneyone wrote:
the blacks will lose cause they are constantly fighting over bananas.
Read all the posts on this thread all and all they have been well thought out and without racist rhetoric except for that one. Leave it to Holland to ruin a good thread.
But why would you? This whole thread consists of generalisations either in jest or seriousness (i.e. "Asians are teh uber-smart).
unnamednewbie13:
1a) It was not, however, appreciable or notable.
1b) Uh.....no. The Mongolians took power (from the Manchus, IIRC), and then expanded. Prior to that, China had been an empire. In fact, what is referred to as the Mongolian Empire could just as easily be called the Chinese Empire during the Manchu Dynasty.
2) Except that there was no huge need for Mongolian troops back home: they were protected by the Celestial Mandate.
unnamednewbie13:
1a) It was not, however, appreciable or notable.
1b) Uh.....no. The Mongolians took power (from the Manchus, IIRC), and then expanded. Prior to that, China had been an empire. In fact, what is referred to as the Mongolian Empire could just as easily be called the Chinese Empire during the Manchu Dynasty.
2) Except that there was no huge need for Mongolian troops back home: they were protected by the Celestial Mandate.
Where is the "Aryan" option?
Yeah there should be an Hindu or Indian team. Oh, you meant the Nazi propaganda "Aryan"WilhelmSissener wrote:
Where is the "Aryan" option?
So you calling me an animal now?Bubbalo wrote:
Gingers aren't a race. People have races. Animals have species. Ergo, Gingers are a species.
It is too early to tell honsetly. I pick the asian team because:
They are all intelligent people (profiles) and all have a very outdoor active lifestyle. Also the most important they work well together and clicked very well at camp.
It is too early to tell and really doesn't matter because they will merge into smaller tribes very quickly(always happens). The race thing was to get peoples attention on the show.
The white team was lazy. they slept on palms the first night. Every other team made shelters as soon as they got there. And they didnt do well in the challenge at all. Oh and letting the chickens get loose...wow...just wow.....how can you be that dumb.
The black team did not make a good decision in voting off one of their large male players because most of the first challenges are physical challenges.
They are all intelligent people (profiles) and all have a very outdoor active lifestyle. Also the most important they work well together and clicked very well at camp.
It is too early to tell and really doesn't matter because they will merge into smaller tribes very quickly(always happens). The race thing was to get peoples attention on the show.
The white team was lazy. they slept on palms the first night. Every other team made shelters as soon as they got there. And they didnt do well in the challenge at all. Oh and letting the chickens get loose...wow...just wow.....how can you be that dumb.
The black team did not make a good decision in voting off one of their large male players because most of the first challenges are physical challenges.