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sergeriver wrote:

If you read my previous posts all these questions were answered.
1-What does the Us take? 
http://www.worldwide-tax.com/.  Read and compare.
2-Whats your point with low taxes here? 
My point is when you spent more than you earn you have deficit, and this government has a huge one.
3-Ok every time anyone gets a paycheck, there is something called a "social security" tax
That's not an answer.  It's an statement.
4-Are you saying we need to RAISE taxes on SS?? 
I say you need to raise taxes in the US.  Social Security system has a surplus in fact but the government is saying there is a deficit there to call the privatization.
5-So why don't you think it would be a good idea?
As I mention before the SS privatization didn't work in a lot of countries.  SS is an issue that the government shoul take care of.  You can't sell the future of a lot of people to Insurance Companies and banks.

AlbertWesker[RE] wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

If you read my previous posts all these questions were answered.
1-What does the Us take? 
http://www.worldwide-tax.com/.  Read and compare.
2-Whats your point with low taxes here? 
My point is when you spent more than you earn you have deficit, and this government has a huge one.
3-Ok every time anyone gets a paycheck, there is something called a "social security" tax
That's not an answer.  It's an statement.
4-Are you saying we need to RAISE taxes on SS?? 
I say you need to raise taxes in the US.  Social Security system has a surplus in fact but the government is saying there is a deficit there to call the privatization.
5-So why don't you think it would be a good idea?
As I mention before the SS privatization didn't work in a lot of countries.  SS is an issue that the government shoul take care of.  You can't sell the future of a lot of people to Insurance Companies and banks.

Thanks, finally you understood, I just wanted your opinion.

1- Yeah I know what it is, I was wondering why you think overall higher taxes would be such a wonderful thing with no responsibility with spending with EITHER party?

2-Yeah, but raising taxes and spending them in the wrong place is not very conducive either.

3- Yes I know but your statement about using taxes to pay for "social security" implied that there wasn't enough money being paid into "social security" so you obviously think we need to raise "social security" taxation????

4- Raise taxes by how much? HAH yeah SS is in surplus right now but not for long, its going to be gone in the not too distant future.

5- Government control, government control, government control, the forever beating drum of the Democrat ideology.

sergeriver wrote:

3-I never said raise the SS tax, I said raise the income tax.

4-Today SS has a surplus, but if you ta ke a look into the next 50 years, in the way it is now it will have a deficit, but that doesn't mean you must make a SS privatization.

5-Small government = I don't give a shit.

sergeriver wrote:

lowing wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

Being a liberal means you don't want to work for a living?  Or you just talk about the people who kept out of the American dream and haven't been as lucky as you.  You know there are some requirements to get your social security check?  It must be pretty sad living in a bunker waiting to be bombed or invaded by immigrants.

In America today, if you are not living the American dream you have to look no further than in the mirror to find the one responsible.

No actually, I don't live in a bunker. You see, when you work for a living you earn money. With that money you can buy all kinds of shit. One of which is my new home. ( my 3rd new home).

As far as the invasion from Mexico, your, who cares attitude. is EXACTLY the liberal response that I appose and contributes to the problem....


And by the way, ALL I have and DON'T have is not by luck, it is by working for it, or not working hard enough for it. I take complete credit for all I have, and complete responsibility for all I want, and DON'T have.

Lowing, I also bought my home and my car and all the shit I have with the money I earn with my business.  But I also pay taxes and those taxes should be used among other things to help people with basic needs unsatisfied.  That's not communism, that's social security and if you forget your fellow country men and women in need, what are you defending your homeland for?

Spearhead wrote:

lowing wrote:

Spearhead wrote:

There was once greed.... and then, there was lowing.

so  I am a racist AND  NOW I am greedy,..........how so??

"Leech money off of hard working Americans"

Whether you believe or not, lowing, most Americans are hard working.  Your little idea that all working class people are just too lazy to earn more money is very old and very cliche.  Believe it or not, most working class people aren't as smart, aren't as creative, and don't have as many opportunities as you.  Does that mean we shouldn't support them? 

As for the racist thing, you can't comprehend the fact that the white Europeans and Americans f*cked the African continent and culture pretty much beyond repair.  Black racism towards whites at least has some truth and meaning, but the vice versa is just plain racism.  If you hate it when blacks happen to call you "white boy" or "kracker", then live with it.  If you are personally offended, then ignore them.  There are racists in every race, the sooner we realize that stereotyping is BS, the sooner racism will end

Spearhead wrote:

topthrill05 wrote:

"Black racism towards whites at least has some truth and meaning, but the vice versa is just plain racism.  If you hate it when blacks happen to call you "white boy" or "kracker", then live with it.  If you are personally offended, then ignore them."

Is that a joke? So if I call someone a dumb nigger because they can't speak english or write it then I am not being a raciest because it has some truth too it? How about my great grandfather raped your great grandmother, should I still take shit for it?

Your logic is flawed.

You know what I freaking mean.  Tell me the last time blacks invaded a white country and turned them into slaves.  If you went tp Africa, and didn't speak a word of their language, does that mean that you are dumb white trash?  The African that doesn't speak english could be a preacher, or a lawyer.  That doesn't mean they're a "dumb nigger".  Classifying someone as a "dumb nigger" is racist in itself.  Call them dumb, a hobo, or a lowlife criminal.  But using the word "nigger" is plain racism.  Are you saying that white people who don't speak english or write it are dumb niggers as well?  White people rape eachother, too, you know.

Your logic is flawed.

sergeriver wrote:

lowing wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

Lowing, I also bought my home and my car and all the shit I have with the money I earn with my business.  But I also pay taxes and those taxes should be used among other things to help people with basic needs unsatisfied.  That's not communism, that's social security and if you forget your fellow country men and women in need, what are you defending your homeland for?

I pay taxes as well, and I have always maintained and supported my belief of helping those that help themselves, children and the disabled. Clearly, these are NOT the people I am talking about.

But again, if you think the low lifes of society vote conservative republican your head is in the sand. They vote for whoever is gunna give them the most shit for free and that AIN'T the republicans.

Would you pls explain what the low lifes of society are?  I don't get the concecpt.

Spark wrote:

topthrill05 wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

Would you pls explain what the low lifes of society are?  I don't get the concecpt.

People who think the goverment should give them money and a blowjob on their birthday.

Really I am sick of paying for the lazy American.

But how do you quantify something like that? How do you see how many 'lazy Americans' there are when you give that description? Give us a more general, measurable bracket (e.g. income, background), so we can actually test your claim.

topthrill05 wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

Would you pls explain what the low lifes of society are?  I don't get the concecpt.

People who think the goverment should give them money and a blowjob on their birthday.

Really I am sick of paying for the lazy American.

AlbertWesker[RE] wrote:

lowing wrote:

Spark wrote:

But how do you quantify something like that? How do you see how many 'lazy Americans' there are when you give that description? Give us a more general, measurable bracket (e.g. income, background), so we can actually test your claim.

People on welfare as a life style and not as a tempory hand up

addicts

40 year olds that have never made more 15,000 a year, yet have 7 kids

People that need my tax dollars to feed their kids but have enough money to buy beer, smokes and lottery tickets.

People that don't want to work because they are holding out for a managers position.

multiple felons   

Assholes that wear their pants 10 sizes too big and half way around their asses that complain how they are being kept down.

ILLEGAL ALIENS.

and last but certainly not least ........All of the modern day liberals out there that feel we need to "understand and show compasion" for people in the above list, and pump even more money into programs that keep supporting them.

There is not really a claim to test here...the above are people that probably just piss off lowing and people like myself when we work are asses off and are told we need to pay more taxes to help people who don't *@#&*(@ deserve it.  People who are TRULY in need like those busting their ass, and on welfare, and those who truly need aid, I have no problem with that, but if you don't have legitimate reason, than its time to f*** off. 

sergeriver wrote:

At least you admit that there are people with genuine needs and not only lazy dudes, which there must be also.

sergeriver wrote:

AlbertWesker[RE] wrote:

lowing wrote:

People on welfare as a life style and not as a tempory hand up

addicts

40 year olds that have never made more 15,000 a year, yet have 7 kids

People that need my tax dollars to feed their kids but have enough money to buy beer, smokes and lottery tickets.

People that don't want to work because they are holding out for a managers position.

multiple felons   

Assholes that wear their pants 10 sizes too big and half way around their asses that complain how they are being kept down.

ILLEGAL ALIENS.

and last but certainly not least ........All of the modern day liberals out there that feel we need to "understand and show compasion" for people in the above list, and pump even more money into programs that keep supporting them.

There is not really a claim to test here...the above are people that probably just piss off lowing and people like myself when we work are asses off and are told we need to pay more taxes to help people who don't *@#&*(@ deserve it.  People who are TRULY in need like those busting their ass, and on welfare, and those who truly need aid, I have no problem with that, but if you don't have legitimate reason, than its time to f*** off. 

At least you admit that there are people with genuine needs and not only lazy dudes, which there must be also.

Last edited by lowing (2006-09-24 05:47:07)