BF2S Forums Because most of you don't have a clue about BH/DD/PS..

WAIB is VERY fun, most the time it's challenging and good players.

SargeV1.4 wrote:

Listen up

Bunnyhopping, dolpin diving, or prone spamming are in no way replacements for skill. It is a different style of movement that lets you dodge bullets more effectively. you are the one that has to have skill to beat this. simply by moving in a different way will not somehow let you kill people if you couldn't do it before.

I am sick of you mindless morons that think that moving is somehow a way to compensate for ones inability to use a gun. Same goes for the opposite side who seem to think that anyone who complains about it are noobs or a similiarly pathetic insult.

BH/DD/PS are all ways of moving and in no way compensate for lack of skill. YOU are the one that needs to learn how to aim to kill these people, it is in no way unfair for you.

The only right solution to appease both sides would have been a server-side option to restrict or allow it. unfortunately, that didn't happen. Now stop saying that BH/DD/PS sucks, and stop saying that people who complain about it suck.

mkay?

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absolutely completely agree. you are so right. i hate the patch.

Widjerd:

It is not a case of 'noobs learn this stuff to stop getting owned'. Imagine what you can do in real life to dodge bullets, all the ways you can move. What can we do in BF2? press W. I've never seen a player do any of this stuff effectively without getting 'owned', as you so nicely put it, himself.

Mj.Blindfisch wrote:

Simon wrote:

Just PM him instead of getting the thread off topic please.

I'm not derailing anything here.

Fact is that people want to play a game which is closer to realism than SuperMarioBros with guns.
America's Army is too close to realism to be real fun,CS:S and all its clones are too arcade-style,just hectic crap.

I think it's ok in BF2 like it is now in 1.4,people can still hop,but not all the time.

And SargeV1.4 is just pissed than he can't play flying pancake the whole round and makes up on justification-thread for his behaviour after another.

Wow,putting so much energy and thought into something nobody really cares about,at least not that much that one gets sleepless nights from it.

But Sarge,what are you gonna do?
EA/DICE won't change it back just for you - so all these discussions are quite pointless.

What annoys me the most is that all the newbies to BF2 that just bought the game keep getting killed by people in vehicles and getting owned by infantry and they just complain, eventually it gets nerfed.

<^|0B1ackhawk0|^> wrote:

Half the people posting in this thread havent played long enought to understand

That includes you,right?

Mj.Blindfisch wrote:

<^|0B1ackhawk0|^> wrote:

Half the people posting in this thread havent played long enought to understand

That includes you,right?

Well if i stuck with 1 account i could probly be in the top 10

Last edited by <^|0B1ackhawk0|^> (2006-09-16 05:32:55)

ToiletTrooper wrote:

SargeV1.4 wrote:

Listen up

Bunnyhopping, dolpin diving, or prone spamming are in no way replacements for skill. It is a different style of movement that lets you dodge bullets more effectively. you are the one that has to have skill to beat this. simply by moving in a different way will not somehow let you kill people if you couldn't do it before.

I am sick of you mindless morons that think that moving is somehow a way to compensate for ones inability to use a gun. Same goes for the opposite side who seem to think that anyone who complains about it are noobs or a similiarly pathetic insult.

BH/DD/PS are all ways of moving and in no way compensate for lack of skill. YOU are the one that needs to learn how to aim to kill these people, it is in no way unfair for you.

The only right solution to appease both sides would have been a server-side option to restrict or allow it. unfortunately, that didn't happen. Now stop saying that BH/DD/PS sucks, and stop saying that people who complain about it suck.

mkay?

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I would give +100 for that.. but i can't.

People that are against BH DD PS dont own anyone in combat.

Bit extreme there.

SargeV1.4 wrote:

Listen up...

blah, blah, blah

...mkay?

You are right with bunny hopping... since bunny hopping gives the player no offensive advantage.

Prone spamming and dolphin diving however give both a defensive AND offensive advantage. That is why these maneuvers are unfair, and why most people who get the higher points use them. Think about it... dolphin diving makes you a smaller, moving target, and also gives you the added accuracy during proneness. Same for prone spamming.

There is a reason to EA's madness. Taking away the shooting while jumping is a good fix since you lose that advantage you used to have of being able to attack efficiently while hopping. Adding the delays inhibit these techniques to make them less effective.

Like I've said in the other posts about this same goddamn topic: If the game were coded better (more complete), where standing up/going prone meant re-adjusting your aim, having the camera tilt, shaking your cursor a bit, you could do all these maneuvers as you please and people wouldn't bitch about it. Play Ghost Recon: Advanced Warfighter and you'll see what I mean by this. You think twice before doing any prone spamming, as it should be.

Quit kidding yourselves by saying that these are all fair techniques and that they don't really help you out, you know you all bitch about them because they help you out even a tiny bit to get more kills and die less often.

Personally, I don't care if they are used in game or not, since they are part of whatever coding EA/DICE put into this game. But please, don't go around saying that it is SOOO unfair that they are taking steps to minimize them, and that they in no way benefit you a little.

Simon wrote:

Widjerd wrote:

basically people who get owned by not doing all kinds of jumps while shooting bunnyhop everywhere.
You have no skill, imaging a server full of jumping proning people, sounds real fun game. Besides it is just a game so go downgrade to 1.12 and quit whining

k. Dont post.

I think he has as much right to say his opinion as sarge does, so let him post. It's not because you don't agree with someone, you can't post.

I don't care about BH's, just aim for their body and kill them... They can't fire the second they jump so that should give you an advantage. The changes are good for seeing who can adapt to the new changes.