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Thats easy, government contractors. There's no liability or morals in that area. Its common for companies to overestimate, steal, do half the job, or no job at all, and still get paid enormous sums by the government. Accountability is zero, its pathetic. Especially pathetic that for the most part its Americans stealing from their own government.

Last edited by GrinchWSLG (2006-09-12 11:17:18)

I'm leaning towards accepting Marconius's call for civil war.

GrinchWSLG wrote:

Thats easy, government contractors. There's no liability or morals in that area. Its common for companies to overestimate, steal, do half the job, or no job at all, and still get paid enormous sums by the government. Accountability is zero, its pathetic. Especially pathetic that for the most part its Americans stealing from their own government.

True I and most government civ employees .. they get astronomical benfits .... and can seemingly never get fired no matter how lame they are.

There is a problem with Civil War.  I was talking about this earlier today, actually.  We are now very much a victim of our own power.  The key lies in our military might.  Our military will stay loyal to the commander in chief and the present system.  That's a rather imposing and capeable force

PuckMercury wrote:

There is a problem with Civil War.  I was talking about this earlier today, actually.  We are now very much a victim of our own power.  The key lies in our military might.  Our military will stay loyal to the commander in chief and the present system.  That's a rather imposing and capeable force

I'm not so sure they would stay loyal if a case could be made that we are being destroyed.
It's a force made up of our fellow citizens.
Cops are more likely to shoot civilians than Marines.

sergeriver wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

Oh but remember we wen't in to get rich off oil..lol

Not you, some oil companies.  And they are getting rich, look to their profits last year. 
http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=1029991

Our oil companies do not control the cost per barrel of oil. Please research this. They make money on the refining and distribution of oil. OPEC is who you need to talk to with regards to middle eastern oil exports.

Agent_Dung_Bomb wrote:

To see scam written all over it, one need only say one word...Halliburton.

Thats simple minded nonsense.
Halliburton is as directly responcible for the Homeland security fraud as george bush is for deciding war policy.

Towelly wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

Not you, some oil companies.  And they are getting rich, look to their profits last year. 
http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=1029991

Our oil companies do not control the cost per barrel of oil. Please research this. They make money on the refining and distribution of oil. OPEC is who you need to talk to with regards to middle eastern oil exports.

True but while they do not control it, they can influence it, if they decide to withhold a few million barrels the price may go up a few cents, they hold back a few billion, well you see what can happen.

My entire family is in the oil trade and we all know enough to get us by, but the worlds oil market is far to complex to even begin to describe, surfice it to say that oil companies have their hands in more than you might imagine, and they have control over alot more than what just the stuff that goes into your cars and into your homes.

If oil companies where in the business of withholding oil I don't think they would be drilling all over the Gulf of Mexico.

ATG wrote:

Agent_Dung_Bomb wrote:

To see scam written all over it, one need only say one word...Halliburton.

Thats simple minded nonsense.
Halliburton is as directly responcible for the Homeland security fraud as george bush is for deciding war policy.

Oh yeah?
http://www.halliburtonwatch.org/

BTW, I work for one of Halliburton's competitors.

I think the system has developed with so many checks and balances against itself but long since abandoned and check and balance on the system as a unit.  This is in theory achieved through democratic election, but this in practice is defeated by the electoral college and further beaten to a pulp through lobbyists and a lust for money and power in general.

At the same time, I wonder how much we are dealing with as a nation vs. dealing with as a global society.  We put ourselves on center stage, so everything is magnified and naturally tends to be ecocentric.  I think the issue needing to be dealt with is larger than simply an American problem, but a problem with the global society.

That being said, before I worry about trying to fix a global community, my first concern is our ailing domestic community.  I simply wonder what can be done with this beast at such a point as this.

PuckMercury wrote:

There is a problem with Civil War.  I was talking about this earlier today, actually.  We are now very much a victim of our own power.  The key lies in our military might.  Our military will stay loyal to the commander in chief and the present system.  That's a rather imposing and capeable force

Never underestimate the redneck faction within our military. Supplies can disappear.

Peoples Pockets.