Aphex_D
I live for the 306
+26|6904|Uk
Just for all you 1.4 lovers who slam everyone who doesnt like 1.4, calling them prone spammers

There is a difference between prone spamming/bunny hopping and moving around, Im sick of hearing it. People say "you cant move around aswell anymore" and these 1.4 noobs say "oh your a prone spammer!111"

Prone Spamming:
when you press Z over and over to move from the crouched position to the prone position useful to avoid bullets
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?doc … 2+infantry
REMOVED IN 1.2

Dolphin Diving:
This is different to Prone Spamming as it is used when moving along and you are prone all the time
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?doc … hin+diving
REMOVED IN 1.2

Bunny Hopping
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?doc … =bf2+bunny
Best example i could find
REMOVED IN 1.2

But what the veterans are complaining about is lack of mobility, the getting back up delay ect ect.
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?doc … +and+cover

This is when the game was at its best
Doctor Strangelove
Real Battlefield Veterinarian.
+1,758|6731
Yes but with minimum practice DDing and PSing were still very do able until 1.4 when they were made as useless as BHing in a fire fight. If you want proof then look at this guy's stats: http://bf2s.com/player/43457727/

And if you don't prone spam or dolphin dive you shouldn't have any problem with the delay. Its less then a third of a second, so the difference is all but unnoticeable.

You see?

And before you say that you are such a vet and I am a n00b then how come I have more score then you, less hours and I have never intentionally point-whored


Edit: Spelling.

Last edited by doctastrangelove1964 (2006-09-12 13:37:28)

Zukabazuka
Member
+23|6948
Now they jump and go to prone in air insted of going straight prone.
fierce
I love [fiSh]
+167|6831

Zukabazuka wrote:

Now they jump and go to prone in air insted of going straight prone.
Not now, this has been since 1.0!

The movement already sucks because of all you valium whiners who got no aim and reactions.

Since 1.4 this game is boring, you don't have a chance if you engage more then 2 enemies. You lack the ability to escape quick enough. The game's been incredible nooberized and i don't see me playing this longer then two weeks from now (date when all our ladder matches are finished).

Thanks fools...
SEMPER
Member
+4|6722

fierce wrote:

you don't have a chance if you engage more then 2 enemies.
Well dont engage when ur outnumbered?
Doctor Strangelove
Real Battlefield Veterinarian.
+1,758|6731

fierce wrote:

Zukabazuka wrote:

Now they jump and go to prone in air insted of going straight prone.
Not now, this has been since 1.0!

The movement already sucks because of all you valium whiners who got no aim and reactions.

Since 1.4 this game is boring, you don't have a chance if you engage more then 2 enemies. You lack the ability to escape quick enough. The game's been incredible nooberized and i don't see me playing this longer then two weeks from now (date when all our ladder matches are finished).

Thanks fools...
Odd because I can do it just fine. I mean the delay on shooting for prone-crouch doesn't matter if you are running away, and if you actually use teamwork so won't be outnumbered very ofter. I still can kill many enemies, all you do is switch targets as soon as one drops and actually bother to aim right. I guess since you cannot do these things you are the real n00b.
Stormscythe
Aiming for the head
+88|6812|EUtopia | Austria

fierce wrote:

The movement already sucks because of all you valium whiners who got no aim and reactions.

Since 1.4 this game is boring, you don't have a chance if you engage more then 2 enemies. You lack the ability to escape quick enough.
Well, if you can't kill more than 2 enemies at a time, something must be wrong with your grenades :-P

All in all, the game has just become way more balanced than it was before the patches. I for example suffered from heavy decrease in frame rates with 2 or more enemies bumping up and down in front of me, while the game worked absolutely fine even in a jet having the most extraordinary explosions all around me.
Further, I can't see so much difference to the 1.3 here.

When I go for an enemy, I am prepared to die - what's wrong with that? You're obviously one of those who's been cut off his greatest fun source, sneaking round corners moving somebody down, not giving him a chance to hit you, depending on his gun, and then running away. Hell, Dice gave you the chance to create squads! A medic in your squad can actually revive you (Of course he'll get the points for that... how unfair...)! With a squad of 3 men, you should then be able to take down any squad, since 2 players at a time, according to your estimation, can be taken down.

Now, there's one thing that I have to think about. Do you really think you would have gotten away from 3 enemies before the patch - it was more like 3 enemies that don't approach you at one time since you'll get away before the last one sees you. Unless the enemy squad is full of complete morons, they'd also start bunny-hopping, prone-spamming or dolphin diving and you'd be chance-less. This delay now gives the Game a slightly realistic touch - which I pretty like.

BF2 is not a Jump'n'Run game, after all.
Skexis
Member
+6|6722
I don't see a damn bit of differnce between the first video and the last one. They're both prone spamming.
Ether151
Banned
+22|6923
The game is fine the way it is, like what was stated above BF2 is not a run jump hop type of game all of you that are complaining about the almost non existent delay are pathetic.  If the only way you are able to survive is jumping and diving and acting like a crack head then you need to go back to playing quake or halo.  This game is about teamwork and strategy not a run and gun one man army.  I for one am glad that you all are no longer going to play.  It makes me laugh that every time one of you guys that thinks they are a one man army and trays running up on a squad of 3 or more and you get about two steps before getting lay ed out.  You need to adapt or go some where else...

Last edited by Ether151 (2006-09-13 10:52:59)

Buzerk1
Member
+44|7099
If you are so miserable playing 1.4, go play C.S./F.E.A.R/DOOM.... enough of this.... one post ends we see another "veteran" run is mooth complaining about complainers that "nerf" the game.

I have been playing since the game came out, played all patches and at the exception of server crashing with 1.3, I always learned to adapt to changes.

The game at its core is still the same, it's about team playing, capping flags, winning the map.

The mobility IS THERE. The game is not slower.
fierce
I love [fiSh]
+167|6831
First, i want to thank you all for saying that i'm a newb. I looked up the stats of all you guys and discovered incredible good infantry kill death ratios ranging from 0.76 to 1.20. And you guys really want to tell me how i should play the game?

Now let's come to some of your statements:

When I go for an enemy, I am prepared to die - what's wrong with that?
I'm not prepared to die, i'm prepared to kill my enemy. Probably that's the difference between good players and the average Joe Schmoe.

A medic in your squad can actually revive you (Of course he'll get the points for that... how unfair...)! With a squad of 3 men, you should then be able to take down any squad, since 2 players at a time, according to your estimation, can be taken down
Look up the accounts of my other clanmates and you'll clearly see what we play. I mostly play unranked, therefore i don't care about points i only care about winning & tickets. We usually decide who's going to revive and not jump at the dead corpse to get those lame 2 points.

I'm not going to quote much stuff that you guys posted, because it always contains the same bullshit you can read in other thread.

One last quote, my answer fits alot of your statements.

The mobility IS THERE. The game is not slower.
The game is slower, you just don't see the difference because you're an underaverage player who never discovered how fast a BF2 game can be!

I can clearly understand SargeV1.4.

And now my stats, do me a favour and don't jerk off to them the whole night.

http://bf2s.com/player/73326152/

Last edited by fierce (2006-09-13 12:48:06)

Zefar
Member
+116|6912|Sweden
I'll start my whining when they change the recoil on all guns to be somewhat like UT2004, and when tanks go 100% faster but only take one shot to get killed.
Or when they make the game fully realistic so that one shot from either most explosive will kill you.

for example, rocket can kill tank in one hit. Tank can kill chopper in one hit with the cannon. And a whole lot more.

If they do that then it's time to start to whine and see that how good it really was back at 1.4.

When you guys whine and such I get used to the new "skills"
Buzerk1
Member
+44|7099

fierce wrote:

First, i want to thank you all for saying that i'm a newb. I looked up the stats of all you guys and discovered incredible good infantry kill death ratios ranging from 0.76 to 1.20. And you guys really want to tell me how i should play the game?

Now let's come to some of your statements:

When I go for an enemy, I am prepared to die - what's wrong with that?
I'm not prepared to die, i'm prepared to kill my enemy. Probably that's the difference between good players and the average Joe Schmoe.

A medic in your squad can actually revive you (Of course he'll get the points for that... how unfair...)! With a squad of 3 men, you should then be able to take down any squad, since 2 players at a time, according to your estimation, can be taken down
Look up the accounts of my other clanmates and you'll clearly see what we play. I mostly play unranked, therefore i don't care about points i only care about winning & tickets. We usually decide who's going to revive and not jump at the dead corpse to get those lame 2 points.

I'm not going to quote much stuff that you guys posted, because it always contains the same bullshit you can read in other thread.

One last quote, my answer fits alot of your statements.

The mobility IS THERE. The game is not slower.
The game is slower, you just don't see the difference because you're an underaverage player who never discovered how fast a BF2 game can be!

I can clearly understand SargeV1.4.

And now my stats, do me a favour and don't jerk off to them the whole night.

http://bf2s.com/player/73326152/
We don't have to jerk off over a padder.... 75hrs played ==> over 2000 revive? Just STFU...

If you are so good, you should still be good....

Last edited by Buzerk1 (2006-09-13 14:03:19)

fierce
I love [fiSh]
+167|6831

Buzerk1 wrote:

fierce wrote:

http://bf2s.com/player/73326152/
We don't have to jerk off over a padder.... 75hrs played ==> over 2000 revive? Just STFU...
Thanks for showing in an extraordinary manner that you got no clue about the game.

~2000 Revives in ~75 hours are just ~0,4 revives each minute or better one revive each 2 minutes. You need padding to do this?

Dear boy, learn to play and stop accusing others of padding just because you fail.

Last edited by fierce (2006-09-13 14:08:41)

Buzerk1
Member
+44|7099

fierce wrote:

Thanks for showing in an extraordinary manner that you got no clue about the game.

~2000 Revives in ~75 hours are just ~0,4 revives each minute or better one revive each 2 minutes. You need padding to do this?

Dear boy, learn to play and stop accusing others of padding just because you fail.
You are right, I know enough to know this is not your first account.... I get a K/D ratio over 3 on most map, but I don't need to show it off on a new account.

And since you pass your time reviving people, you don't have to worry about delay for shooting, don't you?

Really stop bitching, you are such an expert, handling a small delay shouldn't be a problem, if it is, then go play another game...
BigmacK
Back from the Dead.
+628|7014|Chicago.

Buzerk1 wrote:

Really stop bitching, you are such an expert, handling a small delay shouldn't be a problem, if it is, then go play another game...
QFT.
Krysiss
Member
+15|6737|NL

fierce wrote:

First, i want to thank you all for saying that i'm a newb. I looked up the stats of all you guys and discovered incredible good infantry kill death ratios ranging from 0.76 to 1.20. And you guys really want to tell me how i should play the game?

Now let's come to some of your statements:

When I go for an enemy, I am prepared to die - what's wrong with that?
I'm not prepared to die, i'm prepared to kill my enemy. Probably that's the difference between good players and the average Joe Schmoe.

A medic in your squad can actually revive you (Of course he'll get the points for that... how unfair...)! With a squad of 3 men, you should then be able to take down any squad, since 2 players at a time, according to your estimation, can be taken down
Look up the accounts of my other clanmates and you'll clearly see what we play. I mostly play unranked, therefore i don't care about points i only care about winning & tickets. We usually decide who's going to revive and not jump at the dead corpse to get those lame 2 points.

I'm not going to quote much stuff that you guys posted, because it always contains the same bullshit you can read in other thread.

One last quote, my answer fits alot of your statements.

The mobility IS THERE. The game is not slower.
The game is slower, you just don't see the difference because you're an underaverage player who never discovered how fast a BF2 game can be!

I can clearly understand SargeV1.4.

And now my stats, do me a favour and don't jerk off to them the whole night.

http://bf2s.com/player/73326152/
GUy wtf ..
http://www.frontlinesgame.com/
http://www.enemyterritory.com/

this are my knew games.

Dice/EA are full for whiney noobs who can't aim shit here.
Krysiss
Member
+15|6737|NL

fierce wrote:

Buzerk1 wrote:

fierce wrote:

http://bf2s.com/player/73326152/
We don't have to jerk off over a padder.... 75hrs played ==> over 2000 revive? Just STFU...
Thanks for showing in an extraordinary manner that you got no clue about the game.

~2000 Revives in ~75 hours are just ~0,4 revives each minute or better one revive each 2 minutes. You need padding to do this?

Dear boy, learn to play and stop accusing others of padding just because you fail.
omg nice math you have ahahhah
his SPM is 4 dude one of the better top whores around here.


You silly noob, revive to much and you are statspadder,  now I know why yo want to nerf the game for you own good will.

Last edited by Krysiss (2006-09-13 15:04:28)

halla77
Member
+1|6699|right behind you with C4
yall just shutup the game is the game now if u dont like it go play cs or even better go play bf2 for xbox or ps2 u little girls
{BMF}*Frank_The_Tank
U.S. > Iran
+497|6841|Florida
lmao, I had a colonel ask today in a game "what the hell is up with all the prone spamming", as in people always diving to the ground anytime a firefight occurs.  I proceeded to tell him (not knowing he was a colonel at this time) that prone spamming has always been around in this game.  I get the response "I take it you didnt play BF42, nam or any of the mods", I say no, and he says "this game, and always dont go together in the same sentence".................WTF?
_-_911_-_180891
Member
+540|6765|Shanghai, ethnicity=German

SEMPER wrote:

fierce wrote:

you don't have a chance if you engage more then 2 enemies.
Well dont engage when ur outnumbered?
ColtsX
#baddie
+157|6809

Aphex_D wrote:

Just for all you 1.4 lovers who slam everyone who doesnt like 1.4, calling them prone spammers

There is a difference between prone spamming/bunny hopping and moving around, Im sick of hearing it. People say "you cant move around aswell anymore" and these 1.4 noobs say "oh your a prone spammer!111"

Prone Spamming:
when you press Z over and over to move from the crouched position to the prone position useful to avoid bullets
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?doc … 2+infantry
REMOVED IN 1.2

Dolphin Diving:
This is different to Prone Spamming as it is used when moving along and you are prone all the time
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?doc … hin+diving
REMOVED IN 1.2

Bunny Hopping
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?doc … =bf2+bunny
Best example i could find
REMOVED IN 1.2

But what the veterans are complaining about is lack of mobility, the getting back up delay ect ect.
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?doc … +and+cover

This is when the game was at its best
You have no fucking clue what your talking about.
Doctor Strangelove
Real Battlefield Veterinarian.
+1,758|6731
Guy I remeber reading in some one's sig "never argue with an idiot as the will drag you down to their level and beat you with experince" I think thats what these ex-pronespammers are trying to do. But instead we ought to pull them up to our level where they are the skilless newbs they are in the now exploit-fre-with-the-exception-of-gaymoring game that is BF2 v1.4. Yeah they are exploits because I have never seen anything like them in anyother game, they where tricks that were never meant to be, and I just wonder why it took them so long to oust them.
Disodium
Member
+13|6776|Sydney
Meh 1.4 is good
GAIKIWARRIOR
Judge Death
+64|7006|PERTH WESTERN AUSTRALIA
ive been playng since 1.03 and really changed my style that much . i dont get ctd now , and i like bf2 as it is

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