Awww, the truth stings doesn't it?Phantom2828 wrote:
You are a piece of shit you fucking sicken me.Ikarti wrote:
Hey, US soldiers are doing a pretty good job at rape as it is.
Right on.the_hitman_kills wrote:
Most military armies are trained for one thing, to kill the enemy.
Soldiers are trained to be aggressive and violent, its a trait that helps them survive in war.
They are not meant to be police officers, they protect the peace, they don't enforce it.
When you make a soldier police civilian's there are going to be problems.
Soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan are attacked everyday, they see everyone as possible a enemy.
Thats when the training and aggressive/violent traits kicks in, and innocent people die.
You need to pull these soldiers out and replace them with trained peacekeepers who can keep the peace.
LOL. Oh yeah! That's right. The USA & UK didn't attack and invade Iraq. My mistake. Sorry.Phantom2828 wrote:
Nice way to dodge my statment and do do the exact same thing that you clame I do, blaming other countrys.
Another fucking idiot. One soldier who does one terrible act, and yet you ignore the cutting off of babies heads in Africa, because that may require thought and research.PRiMACORD wrote:
Awww, the truth stings doesn't it?Phantom2828 wrote:
You are a piece of shit you fucking sicken me.Ikarti wrote:
Hey, US soldiers are doing a pretty good job at rape as it is.
The chance to remove the "Tyrranical Government" happend in 2004 and 51% of the American people wanted to keep the current regime.IRONCHEF wrote:
I can see you're a marine because you can't think rational thoughts. I don't want Americans dead. I want our country to show some humility in the face of all the horror we're bringing to people. I want our propaganda abused television viewers to realize what depleted uranium does to little kids who play on burnt out tank carcasses. I would like our foreign policy to change drastically but the only way that will happen is if we're made to change it. And yes, consequently (not directly as you're foolishly implying) I do want our country to be forced into change. And for the record, I'll gladly be part of any rebellion that will constitutionally remove our tyrranical government from power...risking my life to do so. Can you be such a man if the occaision arose?
How exactly would you have a rebellion that would force a constitutional change of the government? It sounds to me like you would give your life to overthrow the current republic. Is that what you are saying?Maybe not, but it sure is coming out that way. Oh and don't worry about me being a man if the chance arises, I have no problem planting you in the ground if you try and overthrow the repbulic.
Why do you guys need to harsh on the soldiers? Do you honestly think they're trained to rape? DO you really believe they go looking for rape? They're made up of the same inner-city ghetto-style kids you're neighbors with. They're not mutants or anything. Seriously, aim your hate towards the source, not these kids who are made to do horrible things.PRiMACORD wrote:
Awww, the truth stings doesn't it?Phantom2828 wrote:
You are a piece of shit you fucking sicken me.Ikarti wrote:
Hey, US soldiers are doing a pretty good job at rape as it is.
I just wanted to compliment you on your excellent reading comprehension and your ass-backwards tunnel vision. You're not worthy of discussing real things like this. And you obviously have no clue what the constitution is or how to defend it. That's sad.SMSgtDoc wrote:
The chance to remove the "Tyrranical Government" happend in 2004 and 51% of the American people wanted to keep the current regime.IRONCHEF wrote:
I can see you're a marine because you can't think rational thoughts. I don't want Americans dead. I want our country to show some humility in the face of all the horror we're bringing to people. I want our propaganda abused television viewers to realize what depleted uranium does to little kids who play on burnt out tank carcasses. I would like our foreign policy to change drastically but the only way that will happen is if we're made to change it. And yes, consequently (not directly as you're foolishly implying) I do want our country to be forced into change. And for the record, I'll gladly be part of any rebellion that will constitutionally remove our tyrranical government from power...risking my life to do so. Can you be such a man if the occaision arose?
How exactly would you have a rebellion that would force a constitutional change of the government? It sounds to me like you would give your life to overthrow the current republic. Is that what you are saying?Maybe not, but it sure is coming out that way. Oh and don't worry about me being a man if the chance arises, I have no problem planting you in the ground if you try and overthrow the repbulic.
One soldier? Someone is clueless.usmarine2005 wrote:
Another fucking idiot. One soldier who does one terrible act, and yet you ignore the cutting off of babies heads in Africa, because that may require thought and research.
Ignore cutting off of baby heads, wtf? I'm all for this country helping people in Africa rather then fucking with the ME. Is that going to happen? No.
Try making sense, you might enjoy it.
Because it is easy. It is easy to bash America and its soldiers. It is cool. It is hip. It is the EMO thing to do. Why worry about rape rooms or acts of genocide on a massive scale when you can just bash bash bash.IRONCHEF wrote:
Why do you guys need to harsh on the soldiers? Do you honestly think they're trained to rape? DO you really believe they go looking for rape? They're made up of the same inner-city ghetto-style kids you're neighbors with. They're not mutants or anything. Seriously, aim your hate towards the source, not these kids who are made to do horrible things.PRiMACORD wrote:
Awww, the truth stings doesn't it?Phantom2828 wrote:
You are a piece of shit you fucking sicken me.
No, You just didnt read. He was talking about that one idiot who raped and burned a family. You Fail.PRiMACORD wrote:
One soldier? Someone is clueless.usmarine2005 wrote:
Another fucking idiot. One soldier who does one terrible act, and yet you ignore the cutting off of babies heads in Africa, because that may require thought and research.
Ignore cutting off of baby heads, wtf? I'm all for this country helping people in Africa rather then fucking with the ME. Is that going to happen? No.
Try making sense, you might enjoy it.
You only care when you can deflect the shortcomings of your "brothers in arms." The reason why we're on this is because it's about the US. I don't believe you honestly give a damn about what goes on in Africa. It's just a convenient smokescreen. If you really care about the issues you keep bringing up to deflect attention, by all means, make a topic and I'll participate.usmarine2005 wrote:
Another fucking idiot. One soldier who does one terrible act, and yet you ignore the cutting off of babies heads in Africa, because that may require thought and research.PRiMACORD wrote:
Awww, the truth stings doesn't it?Phantom2828 wrote:
You are a piece of shit you fucking sicken me.
The difference between you, me and GW Bush is that our primary job in life is not to act in the best interests of all Americans using the apparatus of government of the US. To utililise one of the tools of his job, i.e., the army, to satisfy a personal desire, is unprofessional to say the least.DBBrinson1 wrote:
I care about my Dad and would do something drastic to any attempting to bring him harm. I imagine that you would too if someone tried to hurt one that you care about. I do agree that International Politics and personal vendettas should be separte, but it happens... Look at how WWI started. Take Hitler for example. Look at Iraqi leader boy. He thinks it is his personal duty to bring about the end of Israel. All of those guys had/have a personal vindetta.Cameronpoe wrote:
International politics and the lives of thousands is not the place to go settling personal vendettas. EVER. It's just plain immature and irresponsible IMO.
as stated before, the reason this story got so much attention is that it is the exception, not the rulePRiMACORD wrote:
Awww, the truth stings doesn't it?Phantom2828 wrote:
You are a piece of shit you fucking sicken me.Ikarti wrote:
Hey, US soldiers are doing a pretty good job at rape as it is.
Idiots like this are one of the biggest reasons the DNC hasn't been very succesful. The DNC gets associated with them because they agree with most of the DNC platform and then they go off and act like idiots in public. Many fence sitters will think "I can't associate myself with an extremist like that so I'm definitely not voting for HIS party". But then again, the RNC has the same problem with religious fanatics.IRONCHEF wrote:
Why do you guys need to harsh on the soldiers? Do you honestly think they're trained to rape? DO you really believe they go looking for rape? They're made up of the same inner-city ghetto-style kids you're neighbors with. They're not mutants or anything. Seriously, aim your hate towards the source, not these kids who are made to do horrible things.PRiMACORD wrote:
Awww, the truth stings doesn't it?Phantom2828 wrote:
You are a piece of shit you fucking sicken me.
Oh please...you know what he meant. Let's think in parables for a minute. Let's try this one...PRiMACORD wrote:
One soldier? Someone is clueless.usmarine2005 wrote:
Another fucking idiot. One soldier who does one terrible act, and yet you ignore the cutting off of babies heads in Africa, because that may require thought and research.
Ignore cutting off of baby heads, wtf? I'm all for this country helping people in Africa rather then fucking with the ME. Is that going to happen? No.
Try making sense, you might enjoy it.
"Don't let some bad apples spoil the bunch!" Yes, that one applies nicely...unless of course you can make us believe that ALL military personnel are rapists. Exactly.
5 or 6 of them I believe. And it was in one incident. If you want to argue that they're scattered throughout the military just like any other segment of society, fine, but please explain how you have all of these guys in on it together?usmarine2005 wrote:
No, You just didnt read. He was talking about that one idiot who raped and burned a family. You Fail.PRiMACORD wrote:
One soldier? Someone is clueless.usmarine2005 wrote:
Another fucking idiot. One soldier who does one terrible act, and yet you ignore the cutting off of babies heads in Africa, because that may require thought and research.
Ignore cutting off of baby heads, wtf? I'm all for this country helping people in Africa rather then fucking with the ME. Is that going to happen? No.
Try making sense, you might enjoy it.
I have noticed this you couldnt have put it any better. Hating bush is just the COOL thing to do yet all the people I have seen do it know absolutly NOTHING. BTW thaks for serving usmarine2005 and protecting the U.S, I am joining in a few years.usmarine2005 wrote:
Because it is easy. It is easy to bash America and its soldiers. It is cool. It is hip. It is the EMO thing to do. Why worry about rape rooms or acts of genocide on a massive scale when you can just bash bash bash.IRONCHEF wrote:
Why do you guys need to harsh on the soldiers? Do you honestly think they're trained to rape? DO you really believe they go looking for rape? They're made up of the same inner-city ghetto-style kids you're neighbors with. They're not mutants or anything. Seriously, aim your hate towards the source, not these kids who are made to do horrible things.PRiMACORD wrote:
Awww, the truth stings doesn't it?
Please by all means, educate this dumb ass service man on what you are trying to say. Please explain to me where the constitution gives you the right to FORCE a change to this Tyrranical Government. This is your chance, please enlighten me as to the ignorance of my ways. Please pass along your great knowledge of our country's founding document. I beg of you please let me bask in your brilliance!IRONCHEF wrote:
I just wanted to compliment you on your excellent reading comprehension and your ass-backwards tunnel vision. You're not worthy of discussing real things like this. And you obviously have no clue what the constitution is or how to defend it. That's sad.
Seriously though, do tell!
20,000+ US armed forces Casualties...
46,000+ Iraqi civilian fatalities...
And the perpetrators have exhausted their original claims. WMDs, none. Al Qaeda/Iraq, no connection. 9/11 / Iraq, no connection. Mission very unAccomplished.
And now they try to sell people on picking up Saddam on the genocide charges, when the Reagan administration had absolutely nothing to do with it (also noting that the genocides were pretty much backed by US interests in the first place).
Yet no one listened to us in 2002 when all this information was already available. Everyone got suckered, and now people I know are in harm's way every day in Iraq, and people on this forum have had to fight over there and have lost friends and family over there.
And people, if you can really call them people, still choose to support this president. Well, he never was and never will be my president, and I'm going to do my best to turn him into a lame duck for the rest of his time as a failure in office.
46,000+ Iraqi civilian fatalities...
And the perpetrators have exhausted their original claims. WMDs, none. Al Qaeda/Iraq, no connection. 9/11 / Iraq, no connection. Mission very unAccomplished.
And now they try to sell people on picking up Saddam on the genocide charges, when the Reagan administration had absolutely nothing to do with it (also noting that the genocides were pretty much backed by US interests in the first place).
Yet no one listened to us in 2002 when all this information was already available. Everyone got suckered, and now people I know are in harm's way every day in Iraq, and people on this forum have had to fight over there and have lost friends and family over there.
And people, if you can really call them people, still choose to support this president. Well, he never was and never will be my president, and I'm going to do my best to turn him into a lame duck for the rest of his time as a failure in office.
I guess that would kind of thow out the old "Bush is a puppet" argument eh?CameronPoe wrote:
The difference between you, me and GW Bush is that our primary job in life is not to act in the best interests of all Americans using the apparatus of government of the US. To utililise one of the tools of his job, i.e., the army, to satisfy a personal desire, is unprofessional to say the least.DBBrinson1 wrote:
I care about my Dad and would do something drastic to any attempting to bring him harm. I imagine that you would too if someone tried to hurt one that you care about. I do agree that International Politics and personal vendettas should be separte, but it happens... Look at how WWI started. Take Hitler for example. Look at Iraqi leader boy. He thinks it is his personal duty to bring about the end of Israel. All of those guys had/have a personal vindetta.Cameronpoe wrote:
International politics and the lives of thousands is not the place to go settling personal vendettas. EVER. It's just plain immature and irresponsible IMO.
Question real fast. Why is it that even though IRONCHEF served as a marine that his difference in opinion negates the service he's done? So many are on here who "support the troops" and then one comes along and goes "Well I think this is bullshit" and suddenly he's a piece of shit. Even as one who doesn't support the military in any capacity, this just seems wrong and hypocritical.
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle … 253160.stmusmarine2005 wrote:
No, You just didnt read. He was talking about that one idiot who raped and burned a family. You Fail.
"The four eventually went to a house about 200 metres (yards) away and put the parents and their five-year old daughter in the bedroom, but kept the older girl in the living room"
"According to Mr Barker's statement, he and Mr Cortez took it in turns to rape or attempt to rape her."
"According to the testimony, Mr Green then also raped the girl and shot her dead.
Her body was doused in kerosene and set alight."
I fail? Stop trying.
I just wish everyone in this country would realize one thing. If it wasn't for people in the military most of you wouldn't have much freedom. Let me explain. It is an all volunteer military right? Which means if people didn't volunteer YOU would be drafted. So instead of stopping at Starbucks on the way to work, you would be humping a 120lb pack 25 miles in the desert. So yes, you should support them.Ikarti wrote:
Question real fast. Why is it that even though IRONCHEF served as a marine that his difference in opinion negates the service he's done? So many are on here who "support the troops" and then one comes along and goes "Well I think this is bullshit" and suddenly he's a piece of shit. Even as one who doesn't support the military in any capacity, this just seems wrong and hypocritical.
Or you would have dodged the draft, who knows.
I thought only one of them "lit the fuze" so to speak?PRiMACORD wrote:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle … 253160.stmusmarine2005 wrote:
No, You just didnt read. He was talking about that one idiot who raped and burned a family. You Fail.
"The four eventually went to a house about 200 metres (yards) away and put the parents and their five-year old daughter in the bedroom, but kept the older girl in the living room"
"According to Mr Barker's statement, he and Mr Cortez took it in turns to rape or attempt to rape her."
"According to the testimony, Mr Green then also raped the girl and shot her dead.
Her body was doused in kerosene and set alight."
I fail? Stop trying.